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It was one of the other kids on a wind up. They even say it a couple of times but are not sure and are scared so they don't look around. So the kid just walks off.

I don't think it was another kid. It didn't speak and it was lightning fast. It was also really late at night so not many were up. The Doctor could have used his screw driver to analyze but that's too easy. It was just a lame, convoluted episode that led no where. The Doctor believed in the beings even if they didn't exist yet he didn't care that one was in his Tardis after the episode intro. He believes they could exist and is a bit stir crazy for not remembering him writing listen. He thinks they exist and Clara lets him believe yet experiences something herself. So, the Doctor went from wanting to know if they exist and thinking one was aboard the Tardis to not caring at all whether they exist or are aboard his Tardis all in the same episode. The episode contradicted itself and was therefore utterly pointless. I get the theme of being scared but the Doctor doesn't run off with his tail between his legs and doesn't believe that something cannot be explained with science and reasoning.
 
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This era sure is marked with a lot of TARDIS interior changes.
 
The current interior is my favourite, I hope they don't change it.
 
I also like it, though it does remind me of a big Waterstones.
 
The rotating cylinders are the only part of it I like.

I like how Smith's Tardis looked like it went different places and had room to hold lots of people.
 
Capaldi seems like the type of Doctor who'd have the giant kind of Tardis interior like Smith's or even better McGann's TV movie.
 
I don't think it was another kid. It didn't speak and it was lightning fast.

Clara and Rupert were under the bed for a full minute before it sat on there. It took 36 seconds to leave the room (after pulling the blanket off). Hardly "lightning fast". Also, 12 year old orphans might not always be the most talkative bunch, especially when there's a strange man in a bedroom.

It was also really late at night so not many were up.

Well that explains it. Rupert mustn't have been a child either.

The Doctor could have used his screw driver to analyze but that's too easy.

Fairytale era is over, the magic wand is gone (mostly).

It was just a lame, convoluted episode that led no where.

Introduces the possibility Danny is involved in future events.
Is an episode about what may lurk in the dark. Shows the Doctor is afraid of it.
Shows the lengths the Doctor goes to to test things.

The Doctor believed in the beings even if they didn't exist yet he didn't care that one was in his Tardis after the episode intro.

It would have been with him 2,000 odd years. Why would he feel threatened? He just wants to see it, and to see if it malevolent or not.

He believes they could exist and is a bit stir crazy for not remembering him writing listen. He thinks they exist and Clara lets him believe yet experiences something herself. So, the Doctor went from wanting to know if they exist and thinking one was aboard the Tardis to not caring at all whether they exist or are aboard his Tardis all in the same episode.

Clara was the Doctor's nightmare. She doesn't let him believe the "monsters" are real: "What if there was nothing? What if there was never anything? Nothing under the bed? Nothing at the door? What if the big, bad Time Lord doesn't want to admit he want to admit he's just afraid of the dark?"

She imparts information to him and begs him to not check it himself because it's too important that he not see.

The episode contradicted itself and was therefore utterly pointless.

No, it didn't.

I get the theme of being scared but the Doctor doesn't run off with his tail between his legs

No, he goes to the end of the universe and calls you out for a fight. Or he decides to commit genocide (both are shown in the episode).

Anyway, remember that time the Doctor ran away to the back of the train from that thing in Midnight? I do.

and doesn't believe that something cannot be explained with science and reasoning.

This incarnation is more of a scientist than any of the others. He comes up with two theories:

It's nothing.
It's something (that can't be detected, or interact).

The episode leads you to believe it's nothing more heavily than something, but there is the possibility of both. That's the point of the "monster" it only exists hypothetically.
 
I just had a crazy thought.

Either Orson Pink has been erased from the timeline due to Danny's death, or Clara is pregnant right now.
 
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Capaldi turned down the role for the 1996 tv movie


You can tell that the 96 movie isn't highly regarded by Capaldi or Moffat.


Interviewer- I thought you knew Eric Roberts was in it


LOL

or

Interviewer-"Think of the amount of Big Finish you would have done by now!"
 
I just had a crazy thought.

Either Orson Pink has been erased from the timeline due to Danny's death, or Clara is pregnant right now.

Or it was a descendant of one of his relatives (sister perhaps?).

Hope he doesn't come back, he was boring.
 
Or it was a descendant of one of his relatives (sister perhaps?).

Hope he doesn't come back, he was boring.

Danny was an orphan.

The Doctor and Clara only ever ran into Orson because he had something to do with Clara's timeline. Also, Orson said time travel runs in the family. He was clearly intended to be Clara's great grandson.

Chances are, unless Orson's timeline has been erased (ie. Danny was supposed to live), Clara's got a baby on the way.
 
I must admit, I have never felt that family/domestic drama has ever contributed to the show's appeal. As soon as Pink showed up, it felt like the brakes were on.
 
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Capaldi turned down the role for the 1996 tv movie


You can tell that the 96 movie isn't highly regarded by Capaldi or Moffat.


Interviewer- I thought you knew Eric Roberts was in it


LOL

or

Interviewer-"Think of the amount of Big Finish you would have done by now!"


Interesting, as a young Peter Capaldi would have been as fitting for that role as McGann was.
 
I'm so tired of bog standard Doctor Who stories about Dalek invasions. What made Big Finish think that it'd be a good idea to do a 6th Doctor story that took place a year before the 1st Doctor arrived in "The Dalek Invasion of Earth"? The whole story was just a lot of running away from the Daleks while the Doctor kept winking at the audience (I know it's only on audio, but you can feel the winking through the script) that he knows more about the invasion than he's letting on.

It's such a disappointment after the absolutely bizarre (in a good way) "The Widow's Assassin." Though that one had an ending that didn't exactly sit well with me either.
 
I've recently gotten into the Big Finish audios, I've been listening to the Eighth Docter Adventures from haphazardly throughout series 1-4. The Sisters of the Flame/Vengenace of Morbius 2 parter blew me away; such a great production.
 
Recently, saw the Five-ish Doctors and I have to say it was so good seeing those three guys having a little misadventure around Doctor Who. My favourite was the Jack Barrowman bit and Colin and Sylvestor bickering.

Manic, I was thinking of subscribing to Big Finish, just wondering is it worth the money? I'm kind of hesitant because I've subscribed to things before and its not gone very well.
 
Recently, saw the Five-ish Doctors and I have to say it was so good seeing those three guys having a little misadventure around Doctor Who. My favourite was the Jack Barrowman bit and Colin and Sylvestor bickering.

Manic, I was thinking of subscribing to Big Finish, just wondering is it worth the money? I'm kind of hesitant because I've subscribed to things before and its not gone very well.

Well worth it, dude.

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I'm so tired of bog standard Doctor Who stories about Dalek invasions. What made Big Finish think that it'd be a good idea to do a 6th Doctor story that took place a year before the 1st Doctor arrived in "The Dalek Invasion of Earth"? The whole story was just a lot of running away from the Daleks while the Doctor kept winking at the audience (I know it's only on audio, but you can feel the winking through the script) that he knows more about the invasion than he's letting on.

It's such a disappointment after the absolutely bizarre (in a good way) "The Widow's Assassin." Though that one had an ending that didn't exactly sit well with me either.

Not the best of ideas but at least it wasn't piggybacking on Jubilee like Into the Dalek was with Dalek
 
Well worth it, dude.

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Yeah I've listened to some Big Finish and have enjoyed it. But its more I've been stung by a subscription before just making sure I'm not gonna get the same result you know.

To be fair when I saw Death in Heaven I did think 'not the first Doctor to batter the TARDIS' Ahem Paul McGann.
 
Manic, I was thinking of subscribing to Big Finish, just wondering is it worth the money? I'm kind of hesitant because I've subscribed to things before and its not gone very well.

They're pretty expensive. If they were fully visual, paying $13 for a 2-hour episode every month would be reasonable, but they're all vocal with sound effects. I only subscribe to them every year because I work a lot of double shifts in the winter, and can afford to put down $150 for 12 audios as a treat for myself. So keep the price in mind.

A subscription would give you 3 or 4 audios per year for Doctors 5-7 only. Tom Baker has his own range of audios, and Paul McGann is releasing separate box sets a couple of times per year (though he was once part of the month range with 5-7).

Have you heard any of Big Finish's output yet? If you don't know what you're getting into, I suggest you try out some of their free 30-minute audios like "Ratings War," "No Place Like Home," or "Living Legend."
http://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/released/big-finish---for-free

Anything from Big Finish's first 50 Doctor Who audios (from "Sirens of Time" to "Zagreus") is only $3 per download.
http://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/released_reverse/monthly-series

They're going to be full price, but I always love recommending the anthology releases for new listeners. They're usually 4 short stories released together, rather than a single 4-part 2-hour long story like usual. It'll give you a good idea on what Big Finish likes to put out for each Doctor...
http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/circular-time-257
http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/100-266
http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/forty-five-281
http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-demons-of-red-lodge-and-other-stories-308
http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/breaking-bubbles-and-other-stories-829


or you can download yourself a nice big torrent with most of BF's output on it, but I can't legally give you any help there.
 
Ah thanks mate. I do have to say I have dropped off Big Finish so will need to get back into them. Can I ask something though, what is the appeal of the Rani? I haven't watched her stories yet but they have been known to be quite bad. So what's the appeal?
 
Ah thanks mate. I do have to say I have dropped off Big Finish so will need to get back into them. Can I ask something though, what is the appeal of the Rani? I haven't watched her stories yet but they have been known to be quite bad. So what's the appeal?

An excert from TARDIS Wiki:

The Rani was an evil (or, arguably, simply amoral) scientific genius whose villainy came not from the usual variety of lust for power and suchlike, but from a mindset that treated everything (including morality) as secondary to her research. She was known to enslave entire worlds in order to have a ready supply of experimental subjects and a place to carry out her experiments uninterrupted. Her major interest was in altering the biochemistry of other species.
 
The Rani's only got two TV stories: Mark of the Rani, and Time and the Rani. Pretty much everyone hates Time and the Rani. Mark of the Rani is one of Colin's more fun serials.

What I like about the Rani is that she's not some power-hungry murderous maniac like the Master. She's an amoral mad scientist. She's one of those "I have a scientific curiosity, and I'll get results no matter who I have to hurt or enslave to make this experiemt run more efficiently" types. She keeps a low profile and stays off the Time Lords' radar. When the 6th Doctor ran into her, he was shocked to find out she'd been experimenting on the human race for years without anyone noticing. She only came to the Doctor's attention (and ultimately failed) because she teamed up with the Master, who is an idiot as far as she's concerned.

I like to imagine that when the Time War got started, she happily created some disturbing weapons for the Time Lords after they promised her unlimited resources or something.
 
I'd imagine from the description, that she'd have stayed out of it or at least been forced into it due to horrors of the war interrupting her experiments etc. What if the Rani created the End of Time?!
 
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