The Dark Knight Does anyone have any concerns about the movie....

[regwec]

I read on another board that even bit parts from Gordons cops and one of Jokers unmasked goons leave a lasting impression.

Is it really possible for a movie to offer resonant performances from its entire cast and still retain a satisfactory thematic texture?

I suppose we'll see.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

My only concern is the lack of bats following batman, like they had in batman begins. I mean I haven't seen the movie yet so I wouldn't know but the footage from the tv spots and trailers indicate this.

 

[isaias7]

My only concern is the lack of bats following batman, like they had in batman begins. I mean I haven't seen the movie yet so I wouldn't know but the footage from the tv spots and trailers indicate this.

What do you mean?

hes not going to be in the batcave because the mansion is getting rebuilt and what u expect,for him to walk in the middle of the day with bats or to call bats for back up every single time?
sorry man but i just had to say that.t:

 

[Patty]

nice choice actually man.

**** that, I dont want any creepy scientologists filling heaths shoes.

 

[Franky4Fingers]

No one can fill Heath's shoes, nor should they. Thankfully I think Nolan probably feels the same way. Put your self in the shoes of an actor, who is stupid enough to committ career suicide by throwing yourself into Heath comparisons. The man is being absolutely praised. Its just too soon. I'm not saying the Joker should never come back, but its all about the timing.

 

[Thomas Wayne]

I have a concern. After the movie is over then what am I supposed to do with my life? Life will truly be complete.

 

[anrrd_2]

I have a concern. After the movie is over then what am I supposed to do with my life? Life will truly be complete.

nothing left to do but follow the path set before us by heath, charlton, and stan.

 

[namtaB]

I have a concern. After the movie is over then what am I supposed to do with my life? Life will truly be complete.

No no no you work at the hospital.

 

[anrrd_2]

No no no you work at the hospital.

technically... he's dead already!!!!

WHY DO YOU HAUNT US THOMAS WAYNE!!! WHY!!!!

 

[Thomas Wayne]

technically... he's dead already!!!!

WHY DO YOU HAUNT US THOMAS WAYNE!!! WHY!!!!

 

[Badfish40oz]

To be honest my biggest fear is that DK's Joker will be too much of a change from the Joker I love. He just doesn't seem . . all that funny? Not even in a dark way.

But whatever. I had similar concerns for Batman in Batman Begins (too much of a change) and Nolan proved those fears wrong . .

 

[Mr. Para-Normal]

My concern is not with the film. Its just that most the midnight showings are sold out in my area. I am hoping I can get tickets to one theater around here. I messed up and waited around for some of my friends to see if they would be able to come to a midnight showing. So they still have not made a decsion, so I will proably see it friday night and again on saturday night.

 

[regwec]

Put your self in the shoes of an actor, who is stupid enough to committ career suicide by throwing yourself into Heath comparisons.

Well established actors will be percieved to be performing a respectful hommage; millions of aspiring actors would kill for a break like that.

Don't really see your point.

 

[YsoSerious]

This thread is no longer necessary.

 

[regwec]

Clear off, then.

 

[sasquatchs]

I find it kind of odd that this is the franchise where we've spent the most time with Bruce Wayne and Batmans' development, but it's really more about Batman as a symbol than anything personal or the purported psychology. I think the former and its consequences will be way more interesting than Batman the character in this. Not a terrible thing as this slant has never really been done before, but a personal rivalry with the Joker will probably take a back seat to the battle of ideas. Not sure how genuine Joker's "you're just a freak, like me" is going to come across. It really doesn't seem that way to me, they've set him up as a philanthropist in a cape so far, rather than justifying the mask through some twisted psychology. His motivation for becoming Batman hasn't really satisfied me, a symbol of fear is also supposed to be a symbol of hope? Batman's the best way to go about this? Obviously not and the complicated results are interesting, but I'm not sure that's going to make up for how we got here. To me it goes beyond naivete and doesn't really make adequate sense when it's presented as something logical

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Nope. No concerns at all.

 

[nickyg641]

No one can fill Heath's shoes, nor should they. Thankfully I think Nolan probably feels the same way. Put your self in the shoes of an actor, who is stupid enough to committ career suicide by throwing yourself into Heath comparisons. The man is being absolutely praised. Its just too soon. I'm not saying the Joker should never come back, but its all about the timing.

I agree with you, partly. It is too soon. Right now. However, in three or four years when the inevitabe "Untitled The Dark Knight Sequel" comes about, I think feelings will have changed, and old wounds will have closed up. Perhaps people will feel that it's not such a radical idea after all.

I would not harbor any ill feelings towards the recast of the Joker, as long as the actor is on par with Heath (there are other good actors in Hollywood, you know), and performed in such a way so as to both make it believable that we're watching the same character as we saw with Heath, retain a similar feel and sound, while also not simply doing an impression. He must bring a freshness to the role, put his own stamp on the character. Build on the foundations of what Heath did, while still taking the character in a direction of his own, so he's not just the guy filling in for Heath Ledger.

If he can do that, then, in the words of Gary Oldman: “I don’t see why not. I mean, they did it with Katie Holmes’ character. I understand that this is a different circumstance, but I think another actor could do the job. I think Heath would want another actor to do the job.”

 

[BatmanFanatic]

I find it kind of odd that this is the franchise where we've spent the most time with Bruce Wayne and Batmans' development, but it's really more about Batman as a symbol than anything personal or the purported psychology. I think the former and its consequences will be way more interesting than Batman the character in this. Not a terrible thing as this slant has never really been done before, but a personal rivalry with the Joker will probably take a back seat to the battle of ideas. Not sure how genuine Joker's "you're just a freak, like me" is going to come across. It really doesn't seem that way to me, they've set him up as a philanthropist in a cape so far, rather than justifying the mask through some twisted psychology. His motivation for becoming Batman hasn't really satisfied me, a symbol of fear is also supposed to be a symbol of hope? Batman's the best way to go about this? Obviously not and the complicated results are interesting, but I'm not sure that's going to make up for how we got here. To me it goes beyond naivete and doesn't really make adequate sense when it's presented as something logical

I like your points - but then we tend to agree on this sort of thing as far as the themes in the films go. I would have really liked to see a truly believable reason for Bruce becoming Batman (as they claim to want to make everything much more "grounded in the real world") and of course the only actual believable reason would not be a guy with too much money and a hatred of crime, but a guy with too much money, a hatred of crime, and a touch of insanity. Even Bale said it would have been great to play up the split-personality-mental-illness angle, as far as using all that bottled up rage and violence while in the suit and completely living a lie as playboy Bruce. It would have been amazing to see the characters around Bruce, such as Alfred, seriously worry about his choices and stand against them, for a while - rather than take this whole "Batman thing" with a rather blaze attitude.

I guess I really love the idea of approaching Batman from a realist angle but I don't think it was actually done that way, despite the claims to the contrary. I mean, yes they did try very hard with the technology and the cape and the car to be more realistic. But think about what would happen in real life if any of us tried to become this sort of superhero. The way I see it, the only way it would possibly work is if you did it in secret from everyone, and then after it made the news, and after people were aware of the fact that some crazy in a suit was actually putting away crime bosses, then if one of your friends or family members discovered it was you - only AFTER you had been somewhat successful - then they might not call the cops on you or have you sectioned =P

 

[christpunchers]

I'm not too impressed with Aaron Eckhart's acting so far. It's good but a step below Heath's and Christian's.

An Gary Oldman's true accent fading in and out is quite annoying. The rooftop scene where he's with Bats and Dent.... that scene should have been re-shoot....

 

[anrrd_2]

hhm, i didnt notice his accent at all...i'll have to rewatch it.

 

[Sub-Zero]

the concerns i have are with the reviews. i've read a few, skipping spoilers, but it seems like the masses are going to like, but g4 and all the sites that have given us something major in the production(pics, clips, etc) are saying its good, but its too long, or its too dark. aren't those people almost in line with being fanboys?

another thing is that even when they say heath's not oscar worthy or that this shouldn't be compared with godfather 2 or empire,they don't say anything bad about the movie. they say its amazing, but its like what do these people consider an oscar worthy performance?

i really don't go to a movie based on reviews but its like people are saying "its great, but..." and their "but" is not really justified.

 

[bkey]

I'm not too impressed with Aaron Eckhart's acting so far. It's good but a step below Heath's and Christian's.

An Gary Oldman's true accent fading in and out is quite annoying. The rooftop scene where he's with Bats and Dent.... that scene should have been re-shoot....

I think someone who has seen the movie already said that his accent isn't like that in the final cut of that scene. I also think that some of the bad editing in some of those clips has been fixed and are better in the actual movie.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Oldman can do nothing wrong.

Dude IS Jimbo.

 

[anrrd_2]

Amen!