Does anyone like the idea of Hulk getting bigger with anger?

[weezerspider]

No. Ang already butt ****ed this franchise from the beginning. Lets keep all his ideas away from this franchise from now on.

 

[Doc Samson]

The one thing I think we all agree was completely unnecessary. On top of that, it wasn't all that consistent. He grew larger when he was getting shot by guns after he broke out of the house to save Betty, but he didn't grow after getting shot by a tank, getting dropped off a aircraft or any of the other numerous things that should of pissed him off way more than a few measly bullets...

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I never liked this idea at all. IMO the hulk should stay at one size, Lee's "angrier = bigger" concept got way out of control.

 

[odiin]

It was not stupid... it was realistic. The nano-meds answers to frustration(interpretated like a physical damage) producing new cells... then there is the physical growth...

Trust me, realistic is the last thing it was.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

No. Ang already butt ****ed this franchise from the beginning. Lets keep all his ideas away from this franchise from now on.

Ouch! Im pretty sure the franchise is still sore from the last time, lol.

 

[webhead731]

Not really liked it, it's the incredible Hulk, not the inflatable Hulk

lmao.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

He could have been used as a party favor, lol.

 

[November Rain]

The getting bigger to make him stronger just seems like a lazy way to show the hulk getting mad. When Wolverine gets angry and goes into bezerker rage he doesn't need to grow bigger or anything like that he just screams loud and loses control.

Beserker rage wasn't shown in any x-men film

 

[November Rain]

For all those peeps saying a simply line of dialogue would explain it, you understand that this simple line of dialogue would be required for 'every single instance' the hulk gets stronger.

it was mentioned in passing by betty in ang's film but that doesn't have any purpose during an actual scene where this same type of line would be required for each scene to show exactly when he is getting stronger.

I've heard like one reasonable idea to show hwo it could be done, everyone else is stating it was bad and lazy but how exactly would you decide to showcase this feat.

Yes you can say the ol line' he gets stronger as he gets angrier' but how does that help each and every individual fight scene...

he's already a big growling angry monster when he transforms, so how does one act 'more angry' than angry without the need for a narrator?

 

[Golgo-13]

i personally like the idea of hulk getting bigger with anger, just cause it makes hulk seem more angerer and more powerful.....what do you guys think?

Hate the idea. Just one, of the laundry list of Ang lee's **** ups.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

in the new one, in every scene with The Hulk, a guy must comes out and say "Look! Madder he gets, the stronger he becomes!" and go up with this...

 

[EmeraldBeast]

in the new one, in every scene with The Hulk, a guy must comes out and say "Look! Madder he gets, the stronger he becomes!" and go up with this...

A guy? C'mon guys. Let the Hulk come out and say "his" lines when it's appropriate during a battle or something. Just like in the comics.

 

[November Rain]

he can't say it every single time...

how is anyone supposed to take the character seriously with him bouting the same old lines over and over,

potentially up to four times in the same film?

 

[EmeraldBeast]

he can't say it every single time...

how is anyone supposed to take the character seriously with him bouting the same old lines over and over,

potentially up to four times in the same film?

Think hard about what you just wrote. The Hulk has some, not one line. And he doesnt have to use them all the time. Just at key moments. Here's a short and NOT complete list:

Puny humans!
Hulk smash!
Leave Hulk ALONE!
The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!
Hulk is the strongest one there is!

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

I was jokin'...
I think that Hulk has to speak very little... not so much, it will sounds stupid.

 

[HULKFish]

The worst part was watching his eyes bulge when he was stuck in the foam, and then inflate... HATE that part!

 

[EmeraldBeast]

The worst part was watching his eyes bulge when he was stuck in the foam, and then inflate... HATE that part!

I thought I was the only one who hated that! He look so phony, so fake. And the following scene with Talbot flying in the air and just freezing didnt work either. DId he die, get knocked out, what?

 

[matthooper]

It was not stupid... it was realistic. The nano-meds answers to frustration(interpretated like a physical damage) producing new cells... then there is the physical growth...

OK, then explain why he got bigger when Talbot put the drill near his head. There was no physical damage to induce the nano's to make him larger.

There was too much inconsistency when growing larger. When does it stop? It just doesn't mane sense.

Big deal, he gets a little bigger, its done to show that he gets stronger, I mean as long as hes not freakin King Kong or Godzilla...Im cool with it.

Actually at his largest, he wasn't too far from Kong. The big deal is that it is such a jump from the comics that it changed the character to another level.

 

[Supreme Power]

No, that's one thing about the first one that I didn't like. although I liked the movie as a whole. I'm glad he's staying the same size in this one, and hope they just show how he gets stronger the angrier he gets.

 

[Strange]

For all those peeps saying a simply line of dialogue would explain it, you understand that this simple line of dialogue would be required for 'every single instance' the hulk gets stronger.

He would not need to say anything. Like in the first movie when he was fighting his dad. His dad was in the rocks and he tried to pick up the rock and at first he could not pick it up and then he tried a second time and was able to pick it up and throw it with ease. Its simple things like that which shows him getting stronger the madder he gets. He does not need to talk about getting stronger he just needs to try something once and fail and then try it again and succeed. Like fight with the Abomination, he starts out getting his butt whipped and then he comes back and kicks butt. He does not need to grow twice the size of the Abomination to win the fight.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

OK, then explain why he got bigger when Talbot put the drill near his head. There was no physical damage to induce the nano's to make him larger.

I said "frustration(interpretated like a physical damage)"... it's frustration, fear, anger... the drill near his head means danger...

 

[November Rain]

Think hard about what you just wrote. The Hulk has some, not one line. And he doesnt have to use them all the time. Just at key moments. Here's a short and NOT complete list:

Puny humans!
Hulk smash!
Leave Hulk ALONE!
The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!
Hulk is the strongest one there is!

The first three don't serve the purpose of showing he's getting stronger,

even the last one is pretty vague

so again you are left with just a one liner phrase that is required to be said every single time the audience is required to know he is getting stronger.

It's just not feasible.

Look at the animation done of the hulk in the 90s, Another reasonbably good adaptation of the hulk persona (at least for the first series) and it didn't utilise the constant need for the hulk to get stronger as he got madder. He was pretty much based hulk the whole time.

In the second series they looked at this briefly with mr fixit with him being like a base level hulk and then becoming even stronger when he lost it and becoming the green stronger hulk.

 

[November Rain]

He would not need to say anything. Like in the first movie when he was fighting his dad. His dad was in the rocks and he tried to pick up the rock and at first he could not pick it up and then he tried a second time and was able to pick it up and throw it with ease. Its simple things like that which shows him getting stronger the madder he gets. He does not need to talk about getting stronger he just needs to try something once and fail and then try it again and succeed. Like fight with the Abomination, he starts out getting his butt whipped and then he comes back and kicks butt. He does not need to grow twice the size of the Abomination to win the fight.

I think you've misread the outside fight scene with hsi father

It's not that he ever couldn't lift the rock, he was merely trying to get a good enough grip to throw it. There was generally no change in his shape or form or strength level throughout that fight (unless he grew during being electrocuted in the clouds).

Alright, your analogy about getting butt kicked and then coming back as a means of showing someone getting stronger, it pretty much happens in every film.

Wolverine got his butt kicked by mystique, came back and stabbed her. Did he get stronger?
Spiderman got his butt kicked by green goblin, came back and beat him up. Did he get stronger?
blade got his ass kicked by nomak, came back and won, did he get stronger?
Spidey attempted to stop a train and failed, came back and suceeded. Did he get stronger?
Daredevil was getting his ass kicked by kingpin, came back and won. Did he get stronger?
Spidey was getting his ass kicked by harry, came back and won. Did he get stronger?
clark is losing a battle against evil supes, comes back and wins. Did he get stronger?
Wolverine also got beat by deathstrike, came back and won. Did he get stronger?
Daredevil was losing a fight against bullseye at the church, came back and won. Did he get stronger?
Raphael was getting outskilled by leonardo in tmnt, came back and won. DId he get stronger?




ULtimately what i am trying to say is this. Simply overcoming an adversary is not a clear indication of an increase of strength unless physically stated and you can't have the same thing mentioned every time within the same film.

By doing that you limit yourselves to the amount of times you actually see him getting stronger to twice max.


If batman was shot at everytime and everytime we had to have someone say 'OMG, his suit is bulletproof' surely that would piss you off more than having just a clip of bullets bouncing off him. The former would work in comics, the second would work in film.

you can't narrate strength increase at every opportunity. It needs to be implied visually. Which is what ang at least tried to do.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

I think the growth wasn't bad... but a little too much... Just make him grown a little(in mass, not in tallness), around two times in the whole movie... in critical angier moments... but making clearly evident.

 

[matthooper]

I said "frustration(interpretated like a physical damage)"... it's frustration, fear, anger... the drill near his head means danger...

But that was never set up. The frog heals when it's cut. Why would frustration make him bigger? The nanos were created to heal injury.

He's big and green because of what his father passed on to him. We see him turn green as a kid. He turns green out of anger. But he nanos are a secondary "power". The nanos are only triggered by injury not emotion. It was a huge mistake that Lee made. Him getting bigger was so inconsistant. It was too much and made no sense.