The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Does this movie really deserve the hate it gets?

That being said, I agree that this was a rather mediocre adaptation. It just seemed... superficial and aimless lacking the ethos and gravitas that these stories had in the source material. It's like they just decided to do it because it happened in the comics and wasn't done in the previous trilogy, without really digging any deeper.

Agreed. I felt the same about Captain Stacy's death too. I hate how these movies handled two of the most famous deaths in Spider-Man.
 
The movie and comic have the same basic sentiment with Gwen's death. In the comic, it was her momentum that killed her. Spidey reacted and did the best he could, but it was just a little to far away for him to safely nab her with his webbing. In TASM 2, he tried his best, but he was a second too late.

It's the same sentiment that is explored in so many super hero comics. Sometimes, despite the most authentic efforts of the hero, there are still victims. Batman: Venom played up this idea very well when Bats was unable to save a little girl. Even if it isn't truly his/her fault, the hero/heroine will feel responsible because of his/her morality.

The Night Gwen Stacy Died is significant because it was the first time a hero failed in such a manner. That's why it is seen as the end of the silver age of comics.
 
I think stone and Garfield are better than dunst and Toby in my opinion but everyone has theirs.

Do you mean on screen chemistry or characterizations? Thought it was worth asking since Stone & Dunst were playing different characters.

It's my opinion that Maguire was a far better Peter Parker and Spider-man. I like my Spider-man to be a little closer to the source material in that he's not a cool, good looking kid.
 
Do you mean on screen chemistry or characterizations? Thought it was worth asking since Stone & Dunst were playing different characters.

It's my opinion that Maguire was a far better Peter Parker and Spider-man. I like my Spider-man to be a little closer to the source material in that he's not a cool, good looking kid.

Screen chemistry, Andrew and Emma had it really well on screen together.
 
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Do you mean on screen chemistry or characterizations? Thought it was worth asking since Stone & Dunst were playing different characters.

It's my opinion that Maguire was a far better Peter Parker and Spider-man. I like my Spider-man to be a little closer to the source material in that he's not a cool, good looking kid.

Imo Maguire was the better Peter Parker but Garfield was the better Spiderman in the Suit. I prefer Stone's Gwen to Dunst's MJ. As far as the relationships go, its a tough because they were different types of relationships. Gwen and Peter got together right away . Peter basically had to fight for MJ, and was the sideline guy for a long time. Totally different dynamics. I don't have much of a preference because both were consistent with Spiderman lore .

That said, I do think Stone and Garfield had better chemistry together than Dunst and Macguire did.
 
Imo Maguire was the better Peter Parker but Garfield was the better Spiderman in the Suit. I prefer Stone's Gwen to Dunst's MJ. As far as the relationships go, its a tough because they were different types of relationships. Gwen and Peter got together right away . Peter basically had to fight for MJ, and was the sideline guy for a long time. Totally different dynamics. I don't have much of a preference because both were consistent with Spiderman lore .

That said, I do think Stone and Garfield had better chemistry together than Dunst and Macguire did.

For me, both Parker portrayals were off the mark at one point, so I wouldn't call either one perfect. It makes total sense to have Peter be an awkward nerd pre-bite, just as it makes total sense to have him be a much more confident extrovert once he's Spider-Man. Maguire came through with the former, Garfield with the latter. On the other hand, why would a cool skateboarder who looks like Garfiled be so unpopular in high school? Or a guy who spends his days swinging around, doing cool stuff and saving people be as dorky and square as Maguire?

But since the bulk of the films belong to the post-bite Peter, I'd have to give the edge to ol' Garfield. Even if Maguire's first 2 films were miles better.
 
For me, both Parker portrayals were off the mark at one point, so I wouldn't call either one perfect. It makes total sense to have Peter be an awkward nerd pre-bite, just as it makes total sense to have him be a much more confident extrovert once he's Spider-Man. Maguire came through with the former, Garfield with the latter. On the other hand, why would a cool skateboarder who looks like Garfiled be so unpopular in high school? Or a guy who spends his days swinging around, doing cool stuff and saving people be as dorky and square as Maguire?

But since the bulk of the films belong to the post-bite Peter, I'd have to give the edge to ol' Garfield. Even if Maguire's first 2 films were miles better.

Actually favorite version of Peter Parker and Spiderman at the moment is Grant Gustin on The Flash.Lol. He balances,nerdy,humble side of Peter Parker and the Cocky, confident, humorous side of Spiderman better than Macguire and Garfield have.
 
I'm not going to lie, Grant Gustin has been killing it on The Flash.

Somebody needs to photoshop him as Spider-Man. I'm curious to see how that would look.
 
definitely agree about grant gustin. he's great on the flash and would make an excellent peter parker.
 
wow, i thought the same thing too when watching the flash tv series: "this grant gustin cat could make a good peter parker/spider-man!"
 
Actually favorite version of Peter Parker and Spiderman at the moment is Grant Gustin on The Flash.Lol. He balances,nerdy,humble side of Peter Parker and the Cocky, confident, humorous side of Spiderman better than Macguire and Garfield have.

Lol, I've heard that.
 
Honestly, I still don't think so.

My only issues with it stem from Sony not letting Webb make his movie.

I can remember when Webb was hyping up Electro so much, and we were all thinking he'd be the main (and only) villain and then comes Sony/Avi Arad's involvement and we got what we got.

I love the film because it gave me almost everything I wanted out of a Spider-Man film ever since I was a kid, but damn do I really REALLY dislike Sony now.
 
Webb was hyping electro up I think because he once said gwens death was intended to be a surprise, so presumably marketing decided hey we can play on gwens death for hype and so they did that

Webb probably finished and Sony took it and said thanks we will let you know when we need you next
 
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I like the film. I don't think it deserves any hate. People treat it like Batman & Robin I will admit the film was hyped and did not deliver like a great big film epic like a Dark Knight, Man of Steel, Avengers or Winter Soldier. That might have been the biggest problem. Instead, it just came off as a good/decent superhero movie. The scale wasn't in proportion to the hype. Plus, they tried to sell it as Spidey's biggest adventure/threat/fight/conflict or w/e ever. Ummmm okay, sure. I would say it was not BUT it wasn't his weakest one either.
The plot was fine and coherent. The characters were fine, great action and probably some of the best special fx.
I do think people hate it just to hate it, because their god damn nostalgia is calling them back now to Raimi. I want to see them push forward with Spider-Man. It's FOX and X-men who I truly hate.
 
It's a good Spider-Man movie that does introduce some new elements but once it gets to the end it just seems to basically retread ground that's already been traveled on...and far too recently.

I don't hate the movie, per se, and I actually like it. I just wanted it to be a bit better and it would've been nice for Electro's role to have been a little larger in addition to them creating a better look for the Green Goblin. All of the build up would've paid off more if the final fight scene with Green Goblin wasn't so subpar and if he didn't look like he belonged in a Lord of the Rings movie.

All in all, Garfield's performance was solid as was Emma Stone's and I thought this was something different and nice for Jamie Foxx. Truthfully, I found him to be one of the best things about the movie.
 
It's not on the level of GL, B&R, Catwoman or even Wolverine: Origins but it's easily the least of the Big 4 CBMs this year.
 
People have different opinions but you can't have a movie where a character dies you show a funeral then 5 minutes later you show some fat cartoon villan in some metal scrap shouting I'm Ze Rhinoooooo.
 
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It's a good Spider-Man movie that does introduce some new elements but once it gets to the end it just seems to basically retread ground that's already been traveled on...and far too recently.

I don't hate the movie, per se, and I actually like it. I just wanted it to be a bit better and it would've been nice for Electro's role to have been a little larger in addition to them creating a better look for the Green Goblin. All of the build up would've paid off more if the final fight scene with Green Goblin wasn't so subpar and if he didn't look like he belonged in a Lord of the Rings movie.

All in all, Garfield's performance was solid as was Emma Stone's and I thought this was something different and nice for Jamie Foxx. Truthfully, I found him to be one of the best things about the movie.

He was outstanding. "Can you see me now, Spider-man?" is one of my favorite CBM moments. :bow:
 
Yeah, cause it's less enjoyable than those.:o

Agreed.

He was outstanding. "Can you see me now, Spider-man?" is one of my favorite CBM moments. :bow:

Lol he was worse than all of the Joel Schumacher Batman villains except Bane. He is one of the most worst movie villains ever in a comic film. I am glad we will never see him again.
 
People have different opinions but you can't have a movie where a character dies you show a funeral then 5 minutes later you show some fat cartoon villan in some metal scrap shouting I'm Ze Rhinoooooo.

Uh why not?

I'd say blind man fighting an assassin on a seesaw is far more ******ed.
 
I like the film. I don't think it deserves any hate. People treat it like Batman & Robin I will admit the film was hyped and did not deliver like a great big film epic like a Dark Knight, Man of Steel, Avengers or Winter Soldier. That might have been the biggest problem. Instead, it just came off as a good/decent superhero movie. The scale wasn't in proportion to the hype. Plus, they tried to sell it as Spidey's biggest adventure/threat/fight/conflict or w/e ever. Ummmm okay, sure. I would say it was not BUT it wasn't his weakest one either.
The plot was fine and coherent. The characters were fine, great action and probably some of the best special fx.
I do think people hate it just to hate it, because their god damn nostalgia is calling them back now to Raimi. I want to see them push forward with Spider-Man. It's FOX and X-men who I truly hate.

I don't think the film deserve the hate at all and I think saying its the same quality of batman and Robin or catwomen is laughable in itself, you could describe it as mediocre To forgettable at the very least

It's certainly not among the worst super hero movies like some would like to shout about hoping it will happen
 
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I don't think the film deserve the hate at all and I think sayi its the same quality of batman and Robin or catwomen is laughable in itself, you could describe it as
mediocre To forgettable at the very least

It's certainly not amony the worst super hero movies like some would like to shout about hoping it will happen

I have to argue the opposite side of the spectrum, it's definitely not one of the most beloved CBMs or even on the same level as SM1 or SM2 either.
 

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