Doesit bother you that this installment will have fewer CGI elements?

[Dugath]

No way you can do the Hulk as a guy in a suit. It one thing to do the "Thing" as guy in a suit, his "skin" is a rock like substance.

With a real skin and body you have to show muscles flexing and retracting, show veins, subtile textures of the skin change when one moves thier body and as the skin moves over muscles, if they tried doing the Hulk in a suit it would look too fake. There are too many things that we as a people see in each other that we do not notice conciously, but notice something is off right away when it comes to living bodies, be it annimals or humans. Besides you would need a 7 foot tall actor. Just leave it to CGI its the best its going to get (even though its flawed) and will be way better than a suit Hulk. As long as they dont make him 15+ feet tall again.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I personal don't like fully CGed characters, I just don't think there at that level yet, you need that human element to make it real, use CG to touch it up, add elements, textures, use green screening to change sizes, and to add body movement, or reactions, but not a 50 foot tall, fully CG character jumping around. IMO

 

[Secret_Riddle]

After listening to Leterrier's comment...

"I can already tell you that I don't intend to use as much 3D as the first movie did. As for the budget, it will be over 100 millions".

I find it disturbing that the effects for this film might be fewer than the first movie. As it stands, the Hulk appeared four times in the first film. Is he saying he will have even fewer appearances this time around? Or, is he hinting that there will be a human actor playing the Hulk.... I certainly hope not in either situation. It makes it kind of hard to jump from the somewhat-likeable CGI green goliath in the first film, to having a real person half that size. And I hope to God they don't do that full body suit like they did in Hellboy, or Hyde, from "League of Extrordinary Gentlemen"... I'd rather shoot myself.

What do you think is going to happen?

the first movie was 2 hours and 15 min. this one will proly be 1 hour 40 ish mintues. so judging by that shorter movie=less effects. will probably still have cgi hulk.

 

[Ions]

If Guilermo De Toro can make Hellboy come alive I belive it's possible to have a guy in a suit as Hulk. Man I wish GDT was making Incredible Hulk.

How are Hellboy and Hulk similar? Hulk has inhuman proportions, over sized feet and hands and a wide body. Where as Hellboy has (ignoring stylized artistic style) basically human proportions.

 

[Ions]

Exactly, people forget so quickly. Ang shot a lot of stuff in real locations with real explosions the whole shi-bang.

He shot alot of stuff out in the desert so he could drop in the action later on, they didn't even have that fight locked down while shooting. I love that, the desert sequence seems to be so free. Making use of the good footage and adding what makes full use of it.
It's so unfair(for me) to all directors following Ang, this quality(along with the editing, etc) likely won't appear ever again.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

He shot alot of stuff out in the desert so he could drop in the action later on, they didn't even have that fight locked down while shooting. I love that, the desert sequence seems to be so free. Making use of the good footage and adding what makes full use of it.
It's so unfair(for me) to all directors following Ang, this quality(along with the editing, etc) likely won't appear ever again.

The editing style would have worked for Spiderman too. That stylized process should be the "norm" for all comic book movies. At least the scenes when the Hulk was inside the underground bunker.

The only problem I had with the CGI Hulk was that awful running shot of him launching himself in the air... Which kind of didn't make sense, because the house Banner stayed at couldn't have been that far from the base. But hey, whatever.... Keep CGI Hulk, bottomline.

 

[YJ1]

I personal don't like fully CGed characters, I just don't think there at that level yet, you need that human element to make it real, use CG to touch it up, add elements, textures, use green screening to change sizes, and to add body movement, or reactions, but not a 50 foot tall, fully CG character jumping around. IMO

Yep, I vote CGI accents but no longer a complete CGI creation. Regardless of what anyone thinks, the all CGI Hulk of the first film hurt public appeal as much as Ang Lee's poor pacing and half dumb plot. The "why is Shrek so angry?" critique stuck even though the CG was quite good. The fact is, they need something new to distant themselves from movie 1. Keep Bana but change the Hulk is a logical and a smart move to make.

 

[cronosred]

I would vote all cgi. I think the effects were great in the first movie, yes they made him to big and yes sometimes the effects were better than others but the same can be said for lots of FX movies I know people pick on Daredevil and Hulk for the FX but I felt Spider-Man had some questionable effects scenes as well but people tend to overlook that.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Yep, I vote CGI accents but no longer a complete CGI creation. Regardless of what anyone thinks, the all CGI Hulk of the first film hurt public appeal as much as Ang Lee's poor pacing and half dumb plot. The "why is Shrek so angry?" critique stuck even though the CG was quite good. The fact is, they need something new to distant themselves from movie 1. Keep Bana but change the Hulk is a logical and a smart move to make.

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. CGI can be done tastefully without overdoing the character.... Case in point, Golem and King Kong. Both Academy award winning films, it just goes to show that even CGI actors have enough strength to (possibly) become nominated for Best Actor/Actress. And that's a pretty powerful statemnent.... Think about it for second. a computer generated character, NOMINATED for an Academy award. That's huge. Although it hasn't happened yet, I see it in the foreseeable future. Even though it might piss off a lot of actors... Still, it's pretty cool to know that the characters we nerds support, can make a big difference in the movie industry.

Andy Serkis just needs to get off his rear end and do the motion captures for this next film.

 

[knoxf4i]

I liked some of the Hulk in the first movie, but I hated how he was 16 feet tall!
According to the Marvel Universe, he is only 7 feet tall.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Hulk_(Bruce_Banner)

I loved how he patted the tank barrel in his hand like a baseball bat - very cool. And, at least they showed how those gamma powered legs could jump. And the way he used his hands as steering "wings" was very original.

 

[Ions]

I liked some of the Hulk in the first movie, but I hated how he was 16 feet tall!
According to the Marvel Universe, he is only 7 feet tall.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Hulk_(Bruce_Banner)

I loved how he patted the tank barrel in his hand like a baseball bat - very cool. And, at least they showed how those gamma powered legs could jump. And the way he used his hands as steering "wings" was very original.

Yeap and Bruce is supposed to be shorter than 6' too. He was never 16' tall, 15' was the max. There was a few heights, 8'/10'/12'/15'. 8 was his first Hulk out. 10' was his second, which moved to 12' when he exited the house(as he is being fired on by those guards outside). And 15' when he hulked out inside the desert base. As for why, well apart from the fact Marvel for years had let Artists draw Hulk as being alot larger than 7'. Another reason was they wanted Hulk to appear to be able to do these events and show the power came with these bigger sizes(disagree with it, but this is why they did it). With the 12' he was similarly sized with the hulk dogs as Bruce was to them prior to them changing. Rather than Hulk being similar height to the dogs.
15' left him a logical visual height to man handle those Tanks making it look more and more possible. You may disagree but that's why they did it.
AS for the Tank barrel patting that was one of Ang's ideas. There were many in the film. One of many small elements that showed alittle of Hulk's attitude.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Yeap and Bruce is supposed to be shorter than 6' too. He was never 16' tall, 15' was the max. There was a few heights, 8'/10'/12'/15'. 8 was his first Hulk out. 10' was his second, which moved to 12' when he exited the house(as he is being fired on by those guards outside). And 15' when he hulked out inside the desert base. As for why, well apart from the fact Marvel for years had let Artists draw Hulk as being alot larger than 7'. Another reason was they wanted Hulk to appear to be able to do these events and show the power came with these bigger sizes(disagree with it, but this is why they did it). With the 12' he was similarly sized with the hulk dogs as Bruce was to them prior to them changing. Rather than Hulk being similar height to the dogs.
15' left him a logical visual height to man handle those Tanks making it look more and more possible. You may disagree but that's why they did it.
AS for the Tank barrel patting that was one of Ang's ideas. There were many in the film. One of many small elements that showed alittle of Hulk's attitude.

Which is all the more reason to keep hiim all CGI. Having a guy in a suit only makes it truly unbelieveable, and hokey. Angry Shrek or not, he still looks as muscular as he should being CGI... Something you can't really replicate with a suit, other than a few budges and prefabricated muscle definition here and there..... I'll take angry Shrek any day.

 

[블라스]

I trust Louis.
As much as I loved Ang Lee's version (slow, great drama, with few action sequences, kind of like SR), I wouldn't mind a faster paced, action movie with the Hulk.

French action directors like Leterrier are as good as HK action directors, and I'd take them over ANY american action director ANY day (except Michael Bay...he may not like coherent scripts, but the guy knows how to film action).

And he can handle drama (just look at Unleashed, corny but it worked for some reason), so I'm not only not worried, I am very much looking forward to this.

 

[Sava]

I trust Louis.
As much as I loved Ang Lee's version (slow, great drama, with few action sequences, kind of like SR), I wouldn't mind a faster paced, action movie with the Hulk.

French action directors like Leterrier are as good as HK action directors, and I'd take them over ANY american action director ANY day (except Michael Bay...he may not like coherent scripts, but the guy knows how to film action).

And he can handle drama (just look at Unleashed, corny but it worked for some reason), so I'm not only not worried, I am very much looking forward to this.

thats true, Louis is good, nothing great but still good. Unleashed was great IMO.. didnt know Jet li could act

 

[Ions]

thats true, Louis is good, nothing great but still good. Unleashed was great IMO.. didnt know Jet li could act

Unleashed was ok, I didn't like how Danny soon got over the removal of his collar. For someone raised with it, it should of had alot more effect over him. It was disposed of fairly soon and didn't have meaning for the rest of the film.
A pity really, it did have the makings for a classic. Now I think of it, Transporter 1 and 2 had pretty mediocre endings also(IMO).

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

IMO Unleashed was Leterriers best movie, but it was still only average, and Jet Li showed he could act in Kiss Of The Dragon, so i already knew this. The fact that LL got Morgan Freeman in a Jet Li movie must count for something though, never thought i'd see that.

 

[Ions]

IMO Unleashed was Leterriers best movie, but it was still only average, and Jet Li showed he could act in Kiss Of The Dragon, so i already knew this. The fact that LL got Morgan Freeman in a Jet Li movie must count for something though, never thought i'd see that.

I agree with you. I had seen Kiss of the dragon before I saw Unleashed. Unleashed had potential to be a classic. But fell short in a few areas leaving it as a fairly 'ok' film. Morgan Freeman rocks, I think he did help carry the film. He's similarly cool in Batman Begins.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree with you. I had seen Kiss of the dragon before I saw Unleashed. Unleashed had potential to be a classic. But fell short in a few areas leaving it as a fairly 'ok' film. Morgan Freeman rocks, I think he did help carry the film. He's similarly cool in Batman Begins.

Too right Morgan Freeman rocks, Unleashed was definately no better than "ok" as you stated and that worries me, other than the first action scene, i felt the action in Unleashed was pretty poor as well to be honest, especially for a Jet Li movie.

 

[Ions]

Too right Morgan Freeman rocks, Unleashed was definately no better than "ok" as you stated and that worries me, other than the first action scene, i felt the action in Unleashed was pretty poor as well to be honest, especially for a Jet Li movie.

Haha yeah that was a good scene. Really brutal, and the collar was built as such a psychologically power object on Danny. What a waste.
My favourite western produced movie Jet Li has done is probably his bad guy role in Lethal Weapon. He was so damn badass. I couldn't believe they let a middle aged Murtaugh and Riggs take him out like that. Lame.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Haha yeah that was a good scene. Really brutal, and the collar was built as such a psychologically power object on Danny. What a waste.
My favourite western produced movie Jet Li has done is probably his bad guy role in Lethal Weapon. He was so damn badass. I couldn't believe they let a middle aged Murtaugh and Riggs take him out like that. Lame.

I hated LW4, and the end was one of the reasons, especially since he had kicked their asses earlier with ease. Kiss Of The Dragon is Li's best U.S movie IMO.

 

[Ions]

Kiss Of The Dragon is Li's best U.S movie IMO.

Was it US funded? I was under the impression it wasn't...

 

[Warhammer]

The Hulk I want to see s the 7' 1000 lbs. Hulk.
Not the 15' 3000 lbs Hulk.

 

[Ions]

The Hulk I want to see s the 7' 1000 lbs. Hulk.
Not the 15' 3000 lbs Hulk.

What about an 8' 1200lbs Hulk?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Was it US funded? I was under the impression it wasn't...

I'm not sure actually, i know Fox distributed it over here in the U.K. What i really meant was english language movie though.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What about an 8' 1200lbs Hulk?

i would prefer 9-10 feet for the Hulk in this movie.