Dominic Purcell Up for The Incredible Hulk?

[Sava]

NOW do you understand why i hated it so much? It pissed on everything the characters and storylines were.

yeah, but i still blame Singer for most of it

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

yeah, but i still blame Singer for most of it

Ha ha . I loved Singers X-movies and SR, so i have no hate for Singer at all.

 

[Sava]

Ha ha . I loved Singers X-movies and SR, so i have no hate for Singer at all.

SR was good IMO but not as good as most of the critcs seem to think it is. this is the same problem i had with X2, it was ok but nothing great, the action wasnt impressive but the story was great. Thats Singers' only problem IMO, he need to find a way to make his action scenes more... tense, dont know if thats the right word but for me the action in Hulk was more edge of your seat and had more "wow" scenes... then again, i am a Hulk fan

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

yeah, but i still blame Singer for most of it

Yeah I think that is definitely something a lot of people shift onto Ratner and the writers. They were working off seeds that SINGER planted.

 

[Sava]

Yeah I think that is definitely something a lot of people shift onto Ratner and the writers. They were working off seeds that SINGER planted.

exactly

 

[Ions]

Ooh an argument about whether X-men series sucked. I vote +1 to yes.
I can tolerate watching film 1(would of been better without Storm, or atleast with a different Storm) if only for the fact teamwork played a role. I hated all the unnecessary changes. And a crappy plot, a mutant making device? Wha..? I love how all 3 films are based around dull mutant gene plots. First a mutant making machine, then a machine(with evil cerebro) that could kill all mutants or all altered to kill all humans, and then the cure which could cancel mutant powers. Whats with the fixation on their mutated state? Why not have a traditional plot from the comics? These are just crappy stories. Would of been better served adapting good actual stories from the comic.
As a sci fi film X-2 was ok, as an X-men comic adaption it sucked.
As for X-3, I won't make any effort to see X-3. I might watch it when it comes to tv. But I won't make any effort to do so.
Since they just enhanced all the things that pissed me off about the previous films.

And I agree, Singer did lay those seeds. As did Marvel and Fox. And Zak and Avi. Most of those Seeds were layed in X-2. Which you pimp as a Zak story. So there you go. I wished Hayter had of written 2/3, then I might of atleast been able to stomach these sequels.

Hopefully a real X-men movie gets made at some point. So I can see the real X-men on screen. Rather than pale attempts at "elevating" a comic in ways that it didn't need it. Oh well, atleast I can pop in Hulk at any time and get to see Hulk on screen.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

crappy stories? sorry but you just lost all respect.. no need to read anymore of your stuff...

 

[Ions]

crappy stories? sorry but you just lost all respect.. no need to read anymore of your stuff...

Thanks for your feedback. I'll be sure to lodge it in the bin with the rest of the trash.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You must get alot then... sorry if you don't know depth even if it hit you in the face...

All 3 X-stories have been very thought provoking and very intelligent... Something I guess you’re not capable of understanding... there was alot of allusions; I guess you just like alot of action and smashing...

 

[Sava]

You must get alot then... sorry if you don't know depth even if it hit you in the face...

All 3 X-stories have been very thought provoking and very intelligent... Something I guess you’re not capable of understanding... there was alot of allusions; I guess you just like alot of action and smashing...

lol... thought provoking?...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Yes... from racism, sexism... etc... Especially with the "cure" basically a slap in the face to those who are different... I could go on... But I'd dare you to say the X-men movies aren’t thought provoking in the X-boards...

 

[Hunter Rider]

The X boards is full of psychos 90% of the time,no rationale and daring someone to have an opinion is hardly testament to that place's issues

 

[spideyboy_1111]

some yes.. but to say the X-men movies have very boring plots... and have no depth to them.. is pure ignorance

 

[Sava]

Yes... from racism, sexism... etc... Especially with the "cure" basically a slap in the face to those who are different... I could go on... But I'd dare you to say the X-men movies aren’t thought provoking in the X-boards...

they could have used all those themes but they f**ked it all up, just becuase they used it, doesnt make the movies great. The "cure" angle wasnt needed in the 3rd film and was used in a s**ty way. Craming all these things into one movie doesnt make it great, it just makes it clichéd...

 

[Ions]

You must get alot then... sorry if you don't know depth even if it hit you in the face...

All 3 X-stories have been very thought provoking and very intelligent... Something I guess you’re not capable of understanding... there was alot of allusions; I guess you just like alot of action and smashing...

A mutant making machine, a mutant killing machine, a mutant cure(which itself is a horrid abortion of Joss Whedon's good story) are all depth? Why didn't they just adapt Whedon's actual story?
Or are you confusing socio-political themes and the characters of Magneto and Xavier and their ideological struggle for the story depth? Those are X-men staples, present regardless of what the plot was about.
The idea that someone actually thought mad scientists 50's b movie machines was a good plot for a story to adapt X-men for 2 films is really disturbing. Xavier and Magneto's ideology and social commentary would of been there irregardless of the plot. Why did they fixate so hardcore on the fact they were mutants(with mutant dna)?
Why not fixate on the interaction of Mutants and Humans as the main story? Rather than leaving it as a subplot for a evil science machine.
Did Raimi fixate the plots on what made Spider-man "Spider-man"? Or in ways people could attack his genetic change? Or did he just tell good stories about the character? Which was more successful again?
Says alot considering I hate Spider-man, yet he managed to make a film even I could watch(and in the case of the sequel enjoy alot).
Glad you replied, I guess you aren't ignoring my posts as you stated. Guess you are kind of unreliable, or drawn to making hyperbolic statements.
And really, "alot of action and smashing". How do that affect the fact the stories were crap? If anything me complaining about stories should tell you i'm complaining about the stories themselves. I'm not saying I want less story, i'm saying I want BETTER stories.
I love lots of long slow paced movies with lots of story with short intense action. My favourite film is Once Upon a Time in the West. Go watch that sometime and try and tell me i'm all about action and smashing.

 

[Hunter Rider]

some yes.. but to say the X-men movies have very boring plots... and have no depth to them.. is pure ignorance

To say their boring isn't ignorance at all,if someone finds a story dull they find it dull it's simple as that im sure there are films that i love that you don't but i wouldn't think that makes you ignorant
As far as depth there are points in there that are interesting in the first and the second one.
X3 had theme's that were interesting but were badly executed or underdeveloped

 

[Ions]

As far as depth there are points in there that are interesting in the first and the second one.
X3 had theme's that were interesting but were badly executed or underdeveloped

But that depth would of been there irregardless of the plot wouldn't it? It's the main theme of the series. Right back to how and why they made the series. Any X-men film has to address those things.
To say these 3 films stories were making good use of that world(and characters) and can't be greatly improved upon would be a little much? Eh?

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

LOUD NOISES.

Okay let us drop it. Some people liked X3, some people didn't, blah blah blah. It has been done to death. Let us try to focus on the positives for the Incredible Hulk.

 

[Hunter Rider]

But that depth would of been there irregardless of the plot wouldn't it? It's the main theme of the series. Right back to how and why they made the series. Any X-men film has to address those things.
To say these 3 films stories were making good use of that world(and characters) and can't be greatly improved upon would be a little much? Eh?

Well i thought the story in X2 was pretty good,the first was was average and three was just so cluttered and repetitive that i agree it was lackluster
Could they have been better X Men movies ? yes but as movies in their own right i feel X2 is a very strong film

 

[Sava]

LOUD NOISES.

Okay let us drop it. Some people liked X3, some people didn't, blah blah blah. It has been done to death. Let us try to focus on the positives for the Incredible Hulk.

which are?

 

[DACMAN]

HULK's IN IT!


Oh, AND THE ABOM!

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

which are?

Zak Penn is writing his first comic book film outside of Fox. Not saying this is automatically good but could be very good freedom wise.

We are getting a great villain not teh jelly dad.

We are FINALLY getting a sequel.

When we start getting more information I am sure there will be plenty more to be happy about.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, i loved Singer's X-movies, and the seeds they laid were awesome IMO, especially from X2 with the Pheonix as we all knew what was coming next. But Fox, Penn, Kinberg and Ratner completely ****ed it up in X3.

I thought the story in X2 was great, and some of the action scene's were amazing! Nightcrawlers attack on the White House, Pyro losing outside Bobby's house, Wolverine vs Deathstryke, Jean raising the Jet, all awesome action scenes IMO. And though the first one had an average plot, the character development in X1 is great, and it is a good introduction to the world. I still watch X1 and X2 regularly, but i doubt i will be even buying X3.

 

[Sava]

Zak Penn is writing his first comic book film outside of Fox. Not saying this is automatically good but could be very good freedom wise.

We are getting a great villain not teh jelly dad.

We are FINALLY getting a sequel.

When we start getting more information I am sure there will be plenty more to be happy about.

just becuase we are getting a sequel, doesnt mean its a good thing. Abomination is a great Villian but so was Juggernaut, but he ended up looking like a piss take of the character.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

just becuase we are getting a sequel, doesnt mean its a good thing. Abomination is a great Villian but so was Juggernaut, but he ended up looking like a piss take of the character.

Could have fooled me from all of this *****ing and moaning during the limbo period...hehe. Juggernaut also had to compete with what like 15 other characters for screentime?