Dr. Lecter Invites you to Dinner. The ''Hannibal'' Thread - Part 2

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The slash fans on tumblr are getting alot of mileage off last night's episode. :o


I'm quite fond of this one...
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Oh my god. Just stop. Talk about belief perseverance. Christ. Have some hope for once.

Why the hell would Fuller say something like that? If he wasn't confident, he wouldn't be saying that he's confident. In fact, it's unlikely that he'd say anything at all if there were no backup plans and there was no hope. I can understand this sort of mentality when, say, an actor is promoting their film, but the guy is discussing the continuation of his show. I mean, did you even read the article? Did you actually see what he said? Or did you just go off of what I said?

I think I know the answer.

*braces for page-long response*

1) Don't tell me to "just stop." Especially when you bring my name into the conversation. You pick fights then get pissy when people respond. So do us all a favor and drop the snarkiness. If you can't discuss something like an adult, you'll be banned from this thread.

2) It is my belief that the show will, in fact, get picked up for a third season by NBC next week. If for no other reason, because NBC is in the toilet and Hannibal is at least serving as a prestige show. The only way I see NBC dropping Hannibal is if they completely clean house and drop everything but The Blacklist, Parks and Rec, SVU, A Boy, Grimm and The Parenthood (basically scrap Community and everything that was made in the last two years but Blacklist and AAB, and then attempt to rebrand and reboot the network). Since I cannot see NBC doing that, they will probably renew Hannibal, Community, Growing Up Fisher, and maybe Revolution (in addition to the ones I already mentioned).

3) It is also my belief that if the show gets cancelled by NBC, it will not find another home. I don't think you're going to find a network eager to take another network's table scraps of a serialized drama that is two seasons deep, can barely pull in 2 million viewers a week and is owned and produced by a third party (meaning no syndication benefit for the network). Why would Fueller say that it would? Because he is the show runner. No show runner is going to say, "Yep, our show is ****ed," to the press. That's just not how the game works. Not even the show runner of Crisis, which is basically cancelled, is going to come out and say, "Yep, we're done." Beyond that, Fueller puts added pressure on NBC to renew by saying things like that. My point is, you shouldn't be taking Fueller's word as gospel as to the show's cancellation/renewal prospects. His job is to promote the show. Of course he is going to say that it is getting renewed and if it doesn't, there is a line of network execs around the block waiting to pick it up.
 
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Ok.

And I hope so. I'd like to see the show at least wrap up its three season prequel arc if it can't get its other seasons.

And I don't know, we'll see. It doesn't seem like Fuller to just give us false hope with zero basis for that hope though.
 
It would be a crime to end this with just two seasons. :( It's my favorite behind True Detective.
 
Yeah basically. And I love True Detective, but I place this show at least a smidgen above it on principle.
 
Very interesting new interview with Fuller, he talks about many things (no actual spoilers IMO):

http://collider.com/hannibal-season-3-details-bryan-fuller/

During this exclusive interview with Collider, the show’s grand master Bryan Fuller talked about where the relationship between Will Graham (Dancy) and Hannibal Lecter (Mikkelsen) is headed, how Hannibal pulls off all of his murders with no one being able to prove it, finding the right time to refer to him as “Hannibal the Cannibal,” deciding who would be the first of the team to get murdered and why, how much they’ve had to edit for the network and the censors, the evolution of the relationship between Hannibal and Alana Bloom (Dhavernas), the big showdown between Jack Crawford (Fishburne) and Hannibal, the approach to Mason (Michael Pitt) and Margo Verger (Katherine Isabelle), how excited he is to introduce Lady Murasaki in Season 3, the chances of NBC ordering a third season, and what the international ratings are like.

Bryan Fuller ‏@BryanFuller 4 min.
LADY MURASAKI PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN THE PLAN FOR #HANNIBAL SEASON 3 #Brittanibals @SkyLivingHD
 
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1) Don't tell me to "just stop." Especially when you bring my name into the conversation. You pick fights then get pissy when people respond. So do us all a favor and drop the snarkiness. If you can't discuss something like an adult, you'll be banned from this thread.

2) It is my belief that the show will, in fact, get picked up for a third season by NBC next week. If for no other reason, because NBC is in the toilet and Hannibal is at least serving as a prestige show. The only way I see NBC dropping Hannibal is if they completely clean house and drop everything but The Blacklist, Parks and Rec, SVU, A Boy, Grimm and The Parenthood (basically scrap Community and everything that was made in the last two years but Blacklist and AAB, and then attempt to rebrand and reboot the network). Since I cannot see NBC doing that, they will probably renew Hannibal, Community, Growing Up Fisher, and maybe Revolution (in addition to the ones I already mentioned).

3) It is also my belief that if the show gets cancelled by NBC, it will not find another home. I don't think you're going to find a network eager to take another network's table scraps of a serialized drama that is two seasons deep, can barely pull in 2 million viewers a week and is owned and produced by a third party (meaning no syndication benefit for the network). Why would Fueller say that it would? Because he is the show runner. No show runner is going to say, "Yep, our show is ****ed," to the press. That's just not how the game works. Not even the show runner of Crisis, which is basically cancelled, is going to come out and say, "Yep, we're done." Beyond that, Fueller puts added pressure on NBC to renew by saying things like that. My point is, you shouldn't be taking Fueller's word as gospel as to the show's cancellation/renewal prospects. His job is to promote the show. Of course he is going to say that it is getting renewed and if it doesn't, there is a line of network execs around the block waiting to pick it up.

I find it hard to believe that the show won't find another home. Like you said, it's produced by a third party. So essentially it's free ad space for a network. And if Netflix picks it up its just plain free essentially and Netflix is always looking to expand their original content. If it gets dropped by NBC it will find another home. The show isn't struggling to get viewers due to bad content. It is struggling, because it's on NBC on a Friday at 10 p.m. Just about everyone realizes this. So I doubt anyone would consider it NBC's scraps.
 
I seriously doubt the reporter chick is dead. Will probably proposed to her setting up Hannibal for a big story.
 
So HR elements next season? Interesting. Wonder if they'll utilise Grutas.
 
2) It is my belief that the show will, in fact, get picked up for a third season by NBC next week. If for no other reason, because NBC is in the toilet and Hannibal is at least serving as a prestige show. The only way I see NBC dropping Hannibal is if they completely clean house and drop everything but The Blacklist, Parks and Rec, SVU, A Boy, Grimm and The Parenthood (basically scrap Community and everything that was made in the last two years but Blacklist and AAB, and then attempt to rebrand and reboot the network). Since I cannot see NBC doing that, they will probably renew Hannibal, Community, Growing Up Fisher, and maybe Revolution (in addition to the ones I already mentioned).

NBC isn't in the toilet, they are in first place in the 18-49 demo. Take away the Olympics and they are still first place in the demo. Fox and ABC are in the toilet and CBS took a big hit this season. They've picked up three new dramas and have more limited shows planned for 2015. They'll probably keep Hannibal as a mid-season show to be conservative in case their new shows end up like ABC's 2013-2014 slate and sink.

As for a new home, it is very limited and likely only Amazon who already has the rights for the show on Amazon Prime.
 
Fantastic. Hannibal lives to see another year. Not just good for this show because this is, I believe, the first show that Fuller has headed that's gone beyond two seasons. That makes it a double celebration.
 
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