Horror Dr. Lecter Invites you to Dinner. The ''Hannibal'' Thread - Part 5

Honestly, I do it because Antman and/or Slimshady (can't remember which) flipped the hell out over it once (at which point it was just an honest typo). So now at this point, I just do it for their benefit. :woot:

Fair enough! :word:
 
Lol I just realized Richard Armitage was in Captain America: TFA
 
I didn't get to chime in on it when it occurred but loved the finale. A wonderful end to a wonderful season and possibly series of that ends up being the real end of it all. Can't wait to grab this season on blu ray. Beautiful stuff :woot:
 
Amazing finale to an amazing series. If this is all the HANNIBAL we get, I'd say it already ranks at least among my all-time top 10 TV dramas.

In regards some of the convo threads that have been going on in the chat... I love the Thomas Harris novels, adore them. I have heard it's become in vogue to sneer at Harris as a writer, but I have a real connection to those books. RED DRAGON is still one of my favourite books, one of the few novels I've read and reread repeatedly... it had a big impact on my teenage years. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS I know best from the film, which first horrified and delighted me as a kid, and which has held up over he years and remains one of my favourite movies to this day, a perfect film IMO. And it's pretty much a spot-on adaptation of the book, which was my companion during the most serious hospital visit I've ever had. Even HANNIBAL I have a fondness for, as I remember thinking it was my first proper "grown up" book when I read it at age 11, sneaking the big original edition hardback into school in my backpack to read in between lessons. Those books created a rich, Gothic mythology, and much of the TV show's success has come from how it channels that mythology.

As for Will Graham VS Clarice Starling, they're both great characters. The TV series may have absorbed many of the qualities attributed to Clarice in the books onto Will to deepen his relationship with Hannibal, but that doesn't mean Clarice is without value. She's still one of the great protagonists of crime fiction, and I do fear that any adaptation of the Hannibalverse is incomplete without her in it, so I do hope we get a SILENCE OF THE LAMBS adaptation somehow. And far from fearing Will being usurped by Clarice, I'm excited to see these two interact for the first time.

As far as how the Clarice/Hannibal relationship can differ from the Will/Hannibal relationship, I think it can be done. In the TV show, Hannibal is drawn to Will because he sees him as being much like himself, someone who with a little tweaking he can turn into a fellow serial killer. In contrast, Hannibal could be drawn to Clarice because she's utterly pure and incorruptible. She has someone who has been through pain and darkness and emerged from it herself, untainted by the dark and true to her principles. She is someone who can not be manipulated and pushed into wickedness by Hannibal, and that could make him fascinated by her. I'd rather leave out the HANNIBAL book ending, though.
 
I don't know about it being "in vogue" to sneer Harris or anything, but I always thought the general feeling about his books were that they had strong stories and plots, but the writing itself was never anything great even if not necessarily bad. I don't know, though, I've never read them to comment myself, but that just seemed like the general impression about them was to me.
 
I don't know about it being "in vogue" to sneer Harris or anything, but I always thought the general feeling about his books were that they had strong stories and plots, but the writing itself was never anything great even if not necessarily bad. I don't know, though, I've never read them to comment myself, but that just seemed like the general impression about them was to me.

That is an inaccurate perception. Harris's writing has won numerous awards and drawn praise from numerous critics and authors (including Stephen King). He is actually a strong author, very detail oriented. Certain people in this thread have seemed to try marginalize Harris's writing as a way to build up Fueller's creative choices (not really sure why).
 
That is an inaccurate perception. Harris's writing has won numerous awards and drawn praise from numerous critics and authors (including Stephen King). He is actually a strong author, very detail oriented. Certain people in this thread have seemed to try marginalize Harris's writing as a way to build up Fueller's creative choices (not really sure why).

I wasn't really referring to this thread. I had heard that kind of stuff about Harris a long time before Hannibal the TV series. But like I said, I've not read any of his work to comment directly.
 
You should read them. Honestly riveting and always interesting (even Hannibal).
 
Stephen King loved Hannibal, called it the modern Dracula.
 
I don't know about it being "in vogue" to sneer Harris or anything, but I always thought the general feeling about his books were that they had strong stories and plots, but the writing itself was never anything great even if not necessarily bad. I don't know, though, I've never read them to comment myself, but that just seemed like the general impression about them was to me.
The books were deeply engaging to me and I gobbled them all down, but there were flaws in the writing, one obnoxious one being that he changed tenses in scenes and even changed perspectives. An annoyance to me, but the stories were just too darn good to not finish. These mistakes in technique is a little surpring considering how long he took between books. He would have had time to polish them up more, you'd think.
 
Some of it is deliberate though. The scenes from Hannibal's perspective are always told in present tense as a way to differentiate him from every other character, to show his otherness.
 
Some of it is deliberate though. The scenes from Hannibal's perspective are always told in present tense as a way to differentiate him from every other character, to show his otherness.
Maybe. But it still annoyed me. :p
 
Stephen King loved Hannibal, called it the modern Dracula.

which is funny, considering that very shortly lived modern day dracula series that NBC had on for a while .


mads could probably own that role.
 
For now at least. I believe in Hannibal's resurrection!!!

I enjoyed how Wrath of the Lambs wrapped up, especially with how the title was just so tantalizing of what could become if this show ever got to continue. But I'm still just in awe over Mizumono. I don't think I've ever been as affected by a TV show episode as that was. I could rewatch the last 20 minutes or so over and over again. The dialogue was just so spot on and powerful.
 
No it wasn't. It was corny and melodramatic.
 
Disappointing that it wasn't picked up. Maybe they will make it into a movie in the next few years.
 

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