Dr. Lecter Invites you to Dinner. The ''Hannibal'' Thread

[cabel]

That's why Rising fails as a prequel, how does Hannibal go from killing people who defiantly had it coming, to filleting a flutist (is that the write word?) for hitting a few bad notes?

Feels like there should be a whole other book linking Rising and Red Dragon. On second thought, I don't want to give anyone any ideas.

 

[Maximus One]

No I think there most definitely should be. Aside from this show and Rising we have never really seen Hannibal pre-incarceration. At least not enough. I wanna see him in his hay day or maybe his days at school or as an intern. He had to have been getting up to absolutely no good knowing Lecter.

 

[James]

I'm kind of conflicted on it. On the one hand I'd like to know how Lecter became the calculating beast he is, but on the other hand I'm fan of leaving his past a mystery.

 

[Maximus One]

I'm a fan of the mystery sure but... But.... I just wanna know damn it! I want more Lecter, just handled by somebody competent. This show should suffice but I'd still like at least one book. I'd like it to have Hannibal committing the crimes he was convicted of and not painting him at all like an antihero.

 

[Spuzz]

is that the write word?

That sentence is rich. I...I'm not even gonna attempt anything witty to add. That...that stands on its own as comedic excellence. XD

 

[cabel]

Damn you autocorrect!

On a side note, I watched Red Dragon again. It's actually better than I remember.

 

[venus_ice]

The best Hannibal gif so far

Very cool

 

[Schlosser85]

Yea Rising doesn't make any sense. Hannibal isn't this Dexter-esque vigilante. He's a serial killer with a roaring god complex who kills and eats people who annoy him.

Plus he occasionally doesn't even play by his own rules.

He's nowhere near as "scrupulous" as Dexter, or as he was portrayed in Rising.

 

[Matt]

IMO, post-Silence of the Lambs Lecter is an absolute joke. To try to make him a sympathetic anti-hero with a tragic motive, undermines everything established about him in Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs. Harris would've been best served to just let the sleeping dog lie. Silence of the Lambs was the perfect ending to the character.

 

[Maximus One]

I don't really get why people paint him as an antihero in Hannibal. Dude disembowels a detective for ****s sake.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I don't really get why people paint him as an antihero in Hannibal. Dude disembowels a detective for ****s sake.

The problem with that film (which I still like) is that it helped fuel the perception that Hannibal mainly kills people who "ask for it" in a certain way. Mason Verger definitely, but the Italian detective got greedy and abandoned his duty, and Krendler was just an ass.

One can argue that those perceptions are just the audience's innate violent tendencies, and their own need to justify them, projecting themselves onto a fictional character, however.

 

[Schlosser85]

Hannibal definitely makes Hannibal look more like an avenging angel of death preying on the corrupt.

In Silence, he butchers two cops (who WERE courteous to him, btw), the ambulance crew, and a tourist, all in rapid succession.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Hannibal definitely makes Hannibal look more like an avenging angel of death preying on the corrupt.

In Silence, he butchers two cops (who WERE courteous to him, btw), the ambulance crew, and a tourist, all in rapid succession.

Do you mean Chilton? Or the tourist in the novel (after he escapes the ambulance)?

Because if it's Chilton, then THAT guy really deserves it.

 

[hellblazer103]

Do you mean Chilton? Or the tourist in the novel (after he escapes the ambulance)?

Because if it's Chilton, then THAT guy really deserves it.

that one I do believe. it was mentioned in the movie too.


I know this, because I've never actually read or owned any of the books except for Hannibal and my knowledge mainly comes from seeing all the movies, as well as internet access.

 

[Pink Ranger]

that one I do believe. it was mentioned in the movie too.

Ah right, I remember now, there is passing mention of Lecter killing an unnamed tourist in the SOTL movie.

 

[Schlosser85]

I was talking about the unnamed tourist.

I don't think anyone shed tears for Chilton.

 

[S. Grundy]

so, nbc is only putting the first 3 eps online right ? cause I didn't expect the second one to be put online and it'd be weird as hell if they put the entire season online. not that I wouldn't like that incase I miss an ep or wanna watch it again, of course. just that it obviously wouldn't get as many views on tv that way .

Hulu will have five episodes available at any time.

 

[squeekness]

so, nbc is only putting the first 3 eps online right ? cause I didn't expect the second one to be put online and it'd be weird as hell if they put the entire season online. not that I wouldn't like that incase I miss an ep or wanna watch it again, of course. just that it obviously wouldn't get as many views on tv that way .

I dunno. Once upon a time NBC DID put up whole seasons of things. I recall seeing all of the seasons of Friday Night Lights and Heroes while they were playing the shows on the air. But maybe they don't do that anymore...?

 

[Maximus One]

Did they ever actually say exactly what happened to Chilton? Or were we just supposed to assume

 

[squeekness]

Did they ever actually say exactly what happened to Chilton? Or were we just supposed to assume

I thought it was pretty well spelled out thatLector took him out after his escape.

 

[Maximus One]

Well yea but I'm meaning was it ever actually like shown in the books. Of course we are supposed to gather that from the movie lol. All I've read is Hannibal though and that was years ago. I'm just curious it there was ever specifics about Chilton's fate or if it was all just speculation

 

[Schlosser85]

The book Hannibal mentions that Chilton disappeared while on vacation in Jamaica.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I was watching SOTL for old times sake the other day, and at the end I noticed that Chilton keeps checking over his shoulder even as he wades into the crowd. And yet he STILL can't see Hannibal not too far behind him. What a maroon.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yea, Chilton's an idiot. He deserves his fate.

I can't help but wonder what Hannibal did to him though. I bet he despised Chilton enough to get "creative" with him.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Yea, Chilton's an idiot. He deserves his fate.

I can't help but wonder what Hannibal did to him though. I bet he despised Chilton enough to get "creative" with him.

I'd like to think that Hannibal didn't lay a finger on him. Like with Miggs and Verger, he just talked him into harming himself.