The Amazing Spider-Man Dunst "Definitely on board" Spider-Man 4

[JerseyJoker]

What you need to do now that Kirsten is back, is give her a more empowering role. She knows who Spider-Man is, she knows what Peter is going through, she has seen him through the rise and the mistakes he has made, give her a chance to not be an intangible to Peter.

In SM2 and 3, MJ is shown to take a stand and try to overcome a villain (Ock and Venom), yeah obviously she wont hold her own against them, but showing that she is not just going to sit(hang) around and wait to be saved, or try to help Pete out is great motivation for the character.

I really think, that Dunst is back for a reason, she must of read that script by now, and see atleast some advancing of the MJ character, not in the sense she has to be the sole focus of the film, but taking the character in a significant direction.

 

[Dog Logan]

No, Dunst must've seen how many zeros was on her check, and signed on. Dunst doesn't give a flying **** if her character changes or not, she just wants the money, and that's precisely the problem. However, I could be wrong and she may actually do something with the role like she did in the first two movies. We'll have to wait and see for sure.

 

[Figs]

Sad news that she'll be back but hopefully her role is smaller than the last two films.

 

[Papa Burgundy]

noooooo!!!!!!!

ok look i liked her in 2. shes not beautiful or anything but her performance in 2 was good (enough)

however in 3 she was complete garbage, a whiny annoying brat from beginning to end.

and gwen was hotter.

 

[Figs]

noooooo!!!!!!!

ok look i liked her in 2. shes not beautiful or anything but her performance in 2 was good (enough)

however in 3 she was complete garbage, a whiny annoying brat from beginning to end.

and gwen was hotter.

Agreed on all and especially what's in bold.

Personally I liked the hair Dunst had in the first one. Since they wrote the character quite a bit different than how she is in the comics at least give her full on red hair and not strawberry blonde.

I just hope she's more supportive of Peter being Spider-Man and Raimi doesn't focus on the relationship ups and downs as much as he did in part 3.

 

[spider-neil]

okay dunst looks like she is on cack now but I don't care what anyone says in SM1 one she was hot and looked like MJ. oh wherefore is THAT dunst? I suspect hiding in the same place as jennifer connelly's boobs.

 

[Nathan]

Dunst again? Booooooo!

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Dunst again? Booooooo!

What??

If fans want to chop the cast and stories up now... then why on earth support Tobey Maguire's return. He was arguably the worst actor in Spider-man 3! I'm just sayin'

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All this crap about... ''I trust in Sam Raimi for Spider-man 4'', yet when it comes down to it, the majority of fans seem to be doing nothing but *****ing about his decisions.

If you want another Sam Raimi directed movie... then you have to live with the continuity that he has created. MJ is in the script, and in Sam Raimi's world Kirsten Dunst is MJ.



Anyways... just cause shes in the script is no guarantee that she will have a prominent role.

 

[Nathan]

What??

If fans want to chop the cast and stories up now... then why on earth support Tobey Maguire's return. He was arguably the worst actor in Spider-man 3! I'm just sayin'

And who says I'm supporting Tobey's return? I'm not thrilled about him either.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Spider-Man 3 shouldn't taint your views of 1 and especially 2.

Raimi and co. deserve a decent swan song.

Let's see what they can pull off at what could be their best, before we start judging them based off their absolute worst.

 

[HHHDan]

If the villain that turns out to be a "big part of New York" is the Kingpin and they do him right this time (Big fat white guy and not a big muscular black guy) then that will be great. If it just turns out to be a mobster villain like Hammerhead and the such, it will be a snooze fest! (Mobsters aren't super villains; even with super powers)

With the Kingpin, I always thought it would be good to have him in one of the movies, bringing the sinister six together. Kingpin has unlimited ressources. With the heir to Oscorp now dead (Thank god for that!) he could have bought Oscorp, and it's secrets, and use them to create new villains and assemble a team to take out spidey. He could create Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion and hobgoblin, hire Kraven and, as a super twist, we could discover that he fished out Doctor Octopus from the river after Spider-man 2; and Doc Ock now has amnesia (Doesn't remember that Peter Parker is Spider-man but feels a deep hatered of Spider-man; fed by the Kingpin, of course).

Now, that would make a great spidey 4 (& 5)

 

[Venom'sDad]

If fans want to chop the cast and stories up now... then why on earth support Tobey Maguire's return. He was arguably the worst actor in Spider-man 3! I'm just sayin'

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All this crap about... ''I trust in Sam Raimi for Spider-man 4'', yet when it comes down to it, the majority of fans seem to be doing nothing but *****ing about his decisions.

If you want another Sam Raimi directed movie... then you have to live with the continuity that he has created. MJ is in the script, and in Sam Raimi's world Kirsten Dunst is MJ.

Exactly... good post. Welcome to the minority. That's one of the point a few of us having been making to no avail.

People is hating on Dunst; but, whether you like her or not. Sam & Co. wrote MJ's character that way and Kirsten is just doing what she is ask to do. Sam is overall responsible for bring the characters to life. The Characterization of Peter & MJ, amongst others, are incorrect, and in some cases, completely wrong.

For what ever reason, Sam cast Tobey & Kirsten, because they fit the can of persona that Sam wanted for Peter & MJ. Which again, shows me he really does not know & understand these characters. Tobey is a quiet and reclusive person. Sam wanted Tobey because he fit the role that Sam envision for Peter, a quiet, nerdy, choir-boy, outcast. The same can be said about Kirsten who is a dull, manic-depressive, drama queen. She fits the part that Sam envision MJ to be.

Sam has time & time again have said how great Kirsten is, regardless how much the public scolds her performance and characterization of MJ. That alone should tell you something about what this man envision of the characters are. They fit the mold that Sam wants, and he is more responsible for these characterization of Peter & MJ, than Tobey & Kirsten are. I don't understand how many of you don't see this.

But hey, to each their own.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

If the villain that turns out to be a "big part of New York" is the Kingpin and they do him right this time (Big fat white guy and not a big muscular black guy) then that will be great. If it just turns out to be a mobster villain like Hammerhead and the such, it will be a snooze fest! (Mobsters aren't super villains; even with super powers)

With the Kingpin, I always thought it would be good to have him in one of the movies, bringing the sinister six together. Kingpin has unlimited ressources. With the heir to Oscorp now dead (Thank god for that!) he could have bought Oscorp, and it's secrets, and use them to create new villains and assemble a team to take out spidey. He could create Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion and hobgoblin, hire Kraven and, as a super twist, we could discover that he fished out Doctor Octopus from the river after Spider-man 2; and Doc Ock now has amnesia (Doesn't remember that Peter Parker is Spider-man but feels a deep hatered of Spider-man; fed by the Kingpin, of course).

Now, that would make a great spidey 4 (& 5)

Although I object to Dr. Octopus returning due to thematic reasons (as well as ruining Spider-Man 2's excellent closure to his character arc), under no circumstances should anyone EVER have "amnesia" in order to find a lazy route around plot obstacles. Spider-Man 3 did this..and it was ultimately, I think most would agree, the weakest developed plot line in the film.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

They did the amnesia thing with Harry in the last film.

''Looks like Doc Ock has a case of the Harry's'' :P

 

[luke1234]

Now amnesia is definitely an overused plot device.

 

[Papa Burgundy]

Now amnesia is definitely an overused plot device.

that really pissed me off. so freakin lame.

and tobey wasnt to good in spider-man 3. alot of opening his eyes very wide and crying. i dont mind crying in movies but it was so freakin excessive in spider man 3 i couldnt stand it. i think every main actor in this movie cries at some point.

 

[luke1234]

that really pissed me off. so freakin lame.

and tobey wasnt to good in spider-man 3. alot of opening his eyes very wide and crying. i dont mind crying in movies but it was so freakin excessive in spider man 3 i couldnt stand it. i think every main actor in this movie cries at some point.

yeah he cried way too much. spider-man 1 and 2 it was legit, spider-man 3 it was overabused.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

that really pissed me off. so freakin lame.

and tobey wasnt to good in spider-man 3. alot of opening his eyes very wide and crying. i dont mind crying in movies but it was so freakin excessive in spider man 3 i couldnt stand it. i think every main actor in this movie cries at some point.

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[tryp09]

And who says I'm supporting Tobey's return? I'm not thrilled about him either.

My thoughts exactly. Tobey did nothing for me in any of the three movies. Dunst does not play a believable broadway actress (maybe any kind of actress) and has no chemistry whatever with the leading guy.

Whoever did the casting needs to go.

 

[chaseter]

It is either The Lizard as someone mentioned New York being a good monster movie location or it will be Electro and Times Square

 

[gtkilla]

I'm glad she and Toby are back, but I just PRAY that she's not used as bait/the damsel in distress that needs to be saved AGAIN! Enough with saving her already.

 

[Closerframe]

Glad to see Dunst is coming back and The Lizard is obviously the villain in Spider-Man 4.

 

[SpaceWay2009]

okay dunst looks like she is on cack now but I don't care what anyone says in SM1 one she was hot and looked like MJ. oh wherefore is THAT dunst? I suspect hiding in the same place as jennifer connelly's boobs.

I agree. In SM1, I thought she looked great. In two, she was okay, and in three, she was kind of annoying.

 

[gtkilla]

I agree. In SM1, I thought she looked great. In two, she was okay, and in three, she was kind of annoying.

She was very pretty in SM1, ugly in SM2, and in between in SM3. They should just rehire the makeup artists from SM1. The entire cast looked better in that movie than any of the others.

 

[venom892]

Kristen was ok in 1 and in 2 and 3 she looked nothing like MJ.MJ is a great character and they really haven't gotten MJ right yet.I hope in the furture someone does.