The Amazing Spider-Man Dunst "Definitely on board" Spider-Man 4

[TheScarecrow]

NOOOOOOOOOOO! Why god why? Can't we get a talented actress with good looks?? I mean is it really so hard? Every other movie studio in America seems to manage, so why the hell can't Spider-Man get on the ball? Don't they understand that Dunst is one of the big things that helped turn Spider-Man into an emo, whinny little *****?? Her chemistry with Tobey practical makes your feel like you're watching a rape scene every time they are seen together! I say boycott if this crap keeps up, GIMME A DAMN REBOOT!

People need to stop throwing around the term "reboot". It's part of a terrible legacy Batman Begins has left us with where everytime there's a single element to a franchise people aren't happy with that it means they can just start again. You're not going to get a reboot for Spider-man for a very long time. While everyone complains about Spider-man 3 like it's the worst movie in history - it was a minor hiccup in the quality which the filmmakers are acknowledging and promissing to fix.

Give it a chance, and give Dunst a chance. I'm willing to bet half of the problems people have with Dunst are things they should be taking up with Raimi. Dunst doesn't write her own lines, so you can't blame her for the overall poor use and characterisation of Catwoman and it would be hard for Dunst to play MJ with the scenes that she's been getting. She did well in Spider-man 1 and I'm willing to give both her and Sam the benefit of the doubt one more time. I'm sure if Sam is listening as intently as he claims, there'll be a better MJ in Spider-man 4.

can't they just leave MJ out for one movie. Have her go to LA or something it worked for Superman. I would rather have Bryce Dallas Howard back as love intrest for a film.

They never said MJ and Peter will be together, only that Dunst is returning. I too would like a movie with Gwen Stacey as the love interest - partly because I think Raimi owes the character for Spider-man 3 and because I liked Bryce so much in Spider-man 3.

 

[spider-neil]

first off I don't mind her being in SM4 as long as the movie isn't centered around her.

second, is lizard a new york centric villian? I know conner's is based in new york but wasn't the lizard based in florida?

 

[The Joker]

first off I don't mind her being in SM4 as long as the movie isn't centered around her.

second, is lizard a new york centric villian? I know conner's is based in new york but wasn't the lizard based in florida?

That was a one off story. And the Spidey movies have established Curt Conners as New York based.

 

[Spider-Jay420]

Curt Conners has patiently sat through 3 movies and his character is someone Peter goes to for help as they have a long, personal history. He needs his due. Lizard as the villian in SM4.

But he still needs to BECOME the Lizard. In the meantime, Spidey should have to deal with someone like Tombstone or Hammerhead or the Enforcers, since Fox owns the Kingpin. Damn, Kingpin would've been sweet, though.

 

[The Joker]

Curt Conners has patiently sat through 3 movies

Two movies. He wasn't in the first movie.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Lol, yeah. He was mentioned, though.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Indeed, so, yeah, I'm thinking we can say he's been developed through 3 movies.

 

[The Joker]

^^ Indeed, so, yeah, I'm thinking we can say he's been developed through 3 movies.

LOL! What? How did he get any development in Spider-Man 1? He wasn't even in it. Peter just mentioned that he fired him.

 

[FaT_tONle]

So... Spider-Man's next adversary will be the Statue of Liberty?

Maybe he is talking about a battle location and not an actual villain. After all he said they are still deciding on who the villains will be so its no where near a done deal.

And Hammerhead would be one of the most uninspired choices I have seen in a long time. Even the Enforcers. Now Spiderman needs mob foes like Batman? Maybe the Enforcers team up with Sandman... but that's still pretty lame.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

LOL! What? How did he get any development in Spider-Man 1? He wasn't even in it. Peter just mentioned that he fired him.

Lol, as crazy as it sounds, if you think about, he was around in S-M1 even though he was just mentioned. Or maybe I'm just grasping for straws.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Lol, as crazy as it sounds, if you think about, he was around in S-M1 even though he was just mentioned. Or maybe I'm just grasping for straws.

Hey, it is technically true, lol. And isn't your name being introduced some kind of development? lol, it's very minimal and trivial, but still...ial.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Hey, it is technically true, lol. And isn't your name being introduced some kind of development? lol, it's very minimal and trivial, but still...ial.

Yeah, basically. t:

 

[The Joker]

No, your name being mentioned or referenced is not any kind of development.

Doc Ock being in the opening credits of SM-3, and on the newspaper headline on Jameson's office wall, was not development for Ock. Just like Connors being mentioned is not developing him as a character.

Talk sense here, guys.

 

[SpeterMan3]

It's very slight development, because it was an introduction to his character (existence). Ock was already in 2, so we knew about him. Lol, I know that it's not anything big at all.

And I'm 14, I have no sense.

 

[Symbiote666]

Let's just say he has been part of it for 3 movies. He's an already existing character and his presence has been known to us since movie 1. Using an already established character makes more sense than coming up with another one for the villian.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Obviously you people have never heard of the tales of lizards in the sewers of New York ;-)

 

[Nirvana]

Glad Dunst is still on board. As for the villain, I'd like to see Scorpion make an appearance, but I'd be okay with Kraven and the Lizard.

 

[david icke]

No, your name being mentioned or referenced is not any kind of development.

Doc Ock being in the opening credits of SM-3, and on the newspaper headline on Jameson's office wall, was not development for Ock. Just like Connors being mentioned is not developing him as a character.

Talk sense here, guys.

Well, I think you could say he was developed in the background of SM1 by his mention. It showed that his and Peter's relationship went beyond the usual teacher/pupil as Peter actually worked for him. They would have had conversations(as opposed to just being on the other side of the room during lectures as in Spider-man 2), Conners picked him over other candidates etc.

I'm hoping the 'New York villan' they are talking about is the Vulture. I really want Spidey to go up against the Lizard and the Vulture.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Well, I think you could say he was developed in the background of SM1 by his mention. It showed that his and Peter's relationship went beyond the usual teacher/pupil as Peter actually worked for him. They would have had conversations(as opposed to just being on the other side of the room during lectures as in Spider-man 2), Conners picked him over other candidates etc.

Yeah, exactly. Let's just pretend that I said that...

 

[The Joker]

Well, I think you could say he was developed in the background of SM1 by his mention. It showed that his and Peter's relationship went beyond the usual teacher/pupil as Peter actually worked for him. They would have had conversations(as opposed to just being on the other side of the room during lectures as in Spider-man 2), Conners picked him over other candidates etc.

It's not established in SM-1 that Peter was a student of Conners. Peter simply said he worked for him.

The only impression we got of Conners in SM-1 was that he fired Peter for being late all the time. That's it.

 

[JerseyJoker]

SM2 and 3 are the only development of the Conners character. SM-1 was just a nod to the fans, nothing more.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Okay, good points, lol.

 

[spider-neil]

lizard is pretty much. he is established with the audience (conners), sam has his sympathetic villian, he can introduce conner's family and really sell the inner conflict of the character. the movie only needs

the bugle staff
may
mj (small dose please)
conners and family
the lizard

go back to the basics of the first two movies and not drown out the movie with too many characters you can't develop.
however having said that I'd rather enjoy seeing an opening sequence of spidey taking out a 'b list' villian (rhino, shocker etc) no character development or explaination, just a crook who wants money and spidey takes him out.

 

[DACrowe]

Trust me if you recast in SM4 the franchise will be written off. Before anyone mentions Rachel Dawes, no one really liked her (and yes the mainstream liked MJ in the first two movies, because they never read the comics) and it a recast after only one movie. This maintains credibility for the franchise.

I hope he is wrong about the marriage, I think SM4 should be the last one. Get them married at the end, end the franchise right and then wait a decade and reboot.

As for the villain, glad to hear it is not a vampire. Raimi yanking fans' chains, what a surprise.

I'm hoping Lizard...a giant monster in the sewers that tears crap up like subways and stuff? Sounds like NYC in movies.

 

[JerseyJoker]

End at 4 and then wait 10 years to reboot? Wow... please dont ever be in charge of controlling a multi-billion dollar entity.