The Force Awakens Early Star Wars 7 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[DarthSkywalker]

Does that make you Rhett or Ashley, Darth?

I have always wanted to be Rhett, but I fear I am more like Frank Kennedy. Ashley can burn in hell.

We are going to annoy people with our gooeyness again, aren't we? Guess I wouldn't have it any other way.

Hey, we were nominated for Best Pair. We can't be that bad. t:

 

[InCali]

If only any of these movies we are talking about were half as good as Gone with the Wind, then I'd buy that argument.

By the way, you are such a Scarlett SPIDEY. I love it so much.

Gone with the Wind WAS really good. Understandably dated, but definitely one of the best. Still, it DIDN'T have to deal with any of the aforementioned differences that were aptly pointed out.

BTW, get a room.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have always wanted to be Rhett, but I fear I am more like Frank Kennedy. Ashley can burn in hell.


Hey, we were nominated for Best Pair. We can't be that bad. t:

I am proudest of that nomination.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Gone with the Wind WAS really good. Understandably dated, but definitely one of the best. Still, it DIDN'T have to deal with any of the aforementioned differences that were aptly pointed out.

BTW, get a room.

By the way, I notice you avoid other obvious differences that are an advantage of today's films. As TFA and Avatar have shown, those numbers are achievable in this day and age.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I am proudest of that nomination.

I am riding your silk coattails to the top.

 

[Lily Adler]

Did I hear a studio making a Gone with the Wind remake, directed by Steve McQueen?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes tickets cost way, way, way more but far less people go to the theaters. A modern film is never going to sell as many tickets as Gone with Wind for all of the reasons that I mentioned so I don't even get the comparison. GWTW will always crush everything as far as ticket sales are concerned.

 

[InCali]

I am proudest of that nomination.

That's either a free throw and possession for flagrant 1 gooeyness or a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike mushiness. This post is being reviewed in the replay booth and will be discussed by the SHH mods for further sanctions.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes tickets cost way, way, way more but far less people go to the theaters. A modern film is never going to sell as many tickets as Gone with Wind for all of the reasons that I mentioned so I don't even get the comparison.

Gone with the Wind was a freak thing. Now, did the time period help? Yes. But you won't find movies that did anything close to GWTW's business from the same time period. The only film that comes close is Star Wars.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

GWTW and Star Wars are the two biggest movie events of all time, so I never doubt the numbers on those two. TFA is so impressive is that it is already a top 25 film adjusted for inflation. It should easily finish in the top 10, which is astounding.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That's either a free throw and possession for flagrant 1 gooeyness or a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike mushiness. This post is being reviewed in the replay booth and will be discussed by the SHH mods for further sanctions.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's either a free throw and possession for flagrant 1 gooeyness or a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike mushiness. This post is being reviewed in the replay booth and will be discussed by the SHH mods for further sanctions.

Hunter is SPIDEY's other Hype husband and my brother husband. He will bail us out.

 

[InCali]

By the way, I notice you avoid other obvious differences that are an advantage of today's films. As TFA and Avatar have shown, those numbers are achievable in this day and age.

I may have missed some, but have pointed out that there are more theaters and people today than back then. As a former statistician, I'm aware that not all factors work in one direction. It's all a matter of weighting them.

If adjusted box office were really a fair comparison, there would be more than 3 movies in the top 30 that have been released in the last 16 years (barring some statistical freak).

I never said the numbers weren't achievable because they clearly are. It's just way more difficult to break into the GwtW, ANH, Sound of Music, etc. territory now than it was. ALL of the top 10 were pre-2000. It's a different world now. That's all.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Hunter is SPIDEY's other Hype husband and my brother husband. He will bail us out.

Smart thinking.

 

[InCali]

Gone with the Wind was a freak thing. Now, did the time period help? Yes. But you won't find movies that did anything close to GWTW's business from the same time period. The only film that comes close is Star Wars.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

GWTW and Star Wars are the two biggest movie events of all time, so I never doubt the numbers on those two. TFA is so impressive is that it is already a top 25 film adjusted for inflation. It should easily finish in the top 10, which is astounding.

We agree.

It was also handled differently by the studio. I don't think it was released on TV until the 1970s and at first it was on HBO. The DVD wasn't released until after 2000.

Other movies were handled much differently and made money in different venues. GwtW was indeed, as you point out, a freak AND it was helped by the times and how it's release to the general public was handled.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We agree.

It was also handled differently by the studio. I don't think it was released on TV until the 1970s and at first it was on HBO. The DVD wasn't released until after 2000.

Other movies were handled much differently and made money in different venues. GwtW was indeed, as you point out, a freak AND it was helped by the times and how it's release to the general public was handled.

But your argument loses steam when the only film that ever got close came out 40 years and three wars later.

 

[InCali]

Hunter is SPIDEY's other Hype husband and my brother husband. He will bail us out.

Smart thinking.

Color me defeated by collusion..... t:

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Smart thinking.

Considering how little thinking Hunter does, I have to do enough for the both of us.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Considering how little thinking Hunter does, I have to do enough for the both of us.

I just gave you a wrist slap for this comment.

 

[Lily Adler]

Hunter is SPIDEY's other Hype husband and my brother husband. He will bail us out.

Your polyamorous flirtations must cease!

 

[InCali]

But your argument loses steam when the only film that ever got close came out 40 years and three wars later.

IF my argument was that GwtW wasn't one of the most influential, popular movies ever, then my argument would, indeed, lose steam, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it was helped by the times and how its release was handled by the studio. Think about it, no TV.....just start with that. What I'm really saying is comparing GwtW to ANH to Titanic to TFA is incredibly difficult and probably can't really be done. They are just different times.

This is an example and NOT to make a comparison. The Wizard of Oz was handled very differently and a decision was made to release it on TV very early on. That decision in and of itself, meant movie revenues would be minimal. Add other factors and you start building a more coherent analysis (but again, you probably can't REALLY do it).

I let GwtW, ANH, Titanic, etc. stand on their own as what they were and try to not compare them.....different times.....

 

[DarthSkywalker]

IF my argument was that GwtW wasn't one of the most influential, popular movies ever, then my argument would, indeed, lose steam, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it was helped by the times and how its release was handled by the studio. Think about it, no TV.....just start with that. What I'm really saying is comparing GwtW to ANH to Titanic to TFA is incredibly difficult and probably can't really be done. They are just different times.

This is an example and NOT to make a comparison. The Wizard of Oz was handled very differently and a decision was made to release it on TV very early on. That decision in and of itself, meant movie revenues would be minimal. Add other factors and you start building a more coherent analysis (but again, you probably can't REALLY do it).

I let GwtW, ANH, Titanic, etc. stand on their own as what they were and try to not compare them.....different times.....

And yet box office analyst and film historians do it all the time. The idea that these films cannot be compared is just not true. You just need to include the factors.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I just gave you a wrist slap for this comment.

 

[InCali]

Your polyamorous flirtations must cease!

Blame Canada!! Blame Canada!!

 

[Iceman]

In sum, GWTW, Titanic, Star Wars and TFA

Spoiler

all made

[BLACKOUT]a lot[/BLACKOUT].

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In sum, GWTW, Titanic, Star Wars and TFA all made [BLACKOUT]a lot[/BLACKOUT].

The correct answer is, "all da money".