Eddie brock's character arc

[ReggieWhiteJr]

i think someone mentioned that he has an anger issue or sucisidal tendencies, something in that vein. i remember someone describing eddie as being a cool guy on the outside, but he's someone hiding darker secrets about his mental health on the inside. i think it was a voice actor interview with Benjamin Diskin...

I think I heard something like this when watching an interview with the crew.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Yea they still have episode 9, 10 symboite start, 11, before we are do to be getting venom in episode 12 or 13. So lots of time to see their friendship dissolve some more. One thing i am hoping for the symboite is they have all the comics powers and all that and dont cheap out like movies did and not having all its powers/weaknesses.

the thing is pretty much every single character so far has had a decent amount of screen time dedicated to their maturing.

eddie, apparently spidey's deadliest foe has had considerably less than norman, tombstone and ock. Heck, even less than MJ, Gwen, harry, flash, liz etc...

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Or, here's the novel idea.

You could wait and see how it turns out before making a thread like this complaining about how it will turn out.

Why, my idea is actually, GASP, logical. Wait and see and then complain? Why, if only more people would do this.

Got it? Comprende? Dost thou fathom?

I already feel the pacing of the character is off, I'm wondering exactly what purpose he's had in the series up till this point making arguments for the fact he's the most underdeveloped speaking character on the show, yet he's supposed to be spidey's deadliest enemy.

in comparison to tas, he's striking out and is a spare wheel on the show.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Or maybe we're all finding out just how mediocre the character of Brock/Venom truly are. Truth is, there is no justification why Brock should want to murder Peter/Spidey in the funny books. Everyone is looking for the cartoons and movies to make up for what isn't in the comics. Now that's just sad and freakin' pathetic.

I agree with you in thinking that venom (on eddie's side has some weak motivation).

The symbiote's rejection has good motivation on the alien side.

On the human side, it was fairly weak in the comics but here they introduced the character early so we could gradually see the demise of their relationship. There's nothing gradual about it though, they haven't even spoken for like 4/5 eps and he hasn't got a position to lose as yet. It makes me feel as if his motivations are going to come in vain again

I'm just wondering why they wouldn't upgrade the reason.

I also find it weird they are focussing on eddie's hate for peter instead of spiderman. i've always felt the symbiote hated peter's rejection and eddie hated spiderman ruining his work which is why their joint hatred worked well in a symbiotic relationship rather than just targeting one aspect of the superhero.

meh, in short, I hope eddie's plot doesn't feel rushed and crammed into a few eps when it could have been nicely spread out evenly, like the other characters...

 

[The Joker]

I already like they way they're handling Brock in this.

There's an actual connection between him and Peter. So, the basis of his hatred for Peter should be based on something concrete, instead of the delusional, lame BS in the comic books.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

but his hatred should be of spiderman, not peter. This should then reflect on the fact that spiderman IS peter parker which adds to it.

actually when written like that, it's very similar to harry's stance from the films. the thing is it works though...

 

[Arcturus]

I already like they way they're handling Brock in this.

There's an actual connection between him and Peter. So, the basis of his hatred for Peter should be based on something concrete, instead of the delusional, lame BS in the comic books.

I agree, Joker. I feel this is a refreshing take on Eddie Brock and I think it will work. We've got quite a few episodes to go, and I'm certain more of Eddie Brocks motivation will unfold. Only time will tell, truly. The writers of the show have been very consistent with their characters.

 

[Webhead2006]

well we have a few episodes left before venom shows up so peter and eddie's hatred can easily grow in the next few episodes and possible him hating spidey.

 

[Spiderine]

well we have a few episodes left before venom shows up so peter and eddie's hatred can easily grow in the next few episodes and possible him hating spidey.

Exactly.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea we got ep 9 tomorrow, then episode 10, and 11 for symboite spidey that we know for sure he has the symboite. Then that left half of episode 12 and then all of ep 13 for a full blown eddie truly hating peter and spiderman. I could see symboite spidey doing something to brock which causes him to not like spidey any more and then as symboite peter causes more trouble to there relationship and bam......

 

[Syncos]

I agree with you in thinking that venom (on eddie's side has some weak motivation).

The symbiote's rejection has good motivation on the alien side.

On the human side, it was fairly weak in the comics but here they introduced the character early so we could gradually see the demise of their relationship. There's nothing gradual about it though, they haven't even spoken for like 4/5 eps and he hasn't got a position to lose as yet. It makes me feel as if his motivations are going to come in vain again

That's part of the thing about Brock, though.
He wanted soo desperately to be someone. He wants to matter.

That being said. It allows the symbiote to completely bond. The symbiote hated Peter for removing it, not allowing it to bond. It's a good reason for hatred.

Even if Brocks motivations aren't the best for hating peter. The Symbiote -does- and we've been shown that the Alien can alter personality. Being fully bonded with the Alien, it's safe to reason that Brock is feeling the Symbiote's hate, more than his own.

 

[AIRWOLF]

well we have a few episodes left before venom shows up so peter and eddie's hatred can easily grow in the next few episodes and possible him hating spidey.

For that matter, Eddie should be in the upcoming episode and this time there should be some conversation between him and Peter, his lack of dialogue is making me nervous about how they'll spin his story.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Well in that case it makes the symbiote more redundant, it'd be better off bonding the jonah or an actual spidey villain.

Besides, in this universe, I think eddie is/was someone around his peers. Quarterback football captain, academic, good friend with younger members, respected lab partner of connors...

not much more you could ask for just getting into uni

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

For that matter, Eddie should be in the upcoming episode and this time there should be some conversation between him and Peter, his lack of dialogue is making me nervous about how they'll spin his story.

That's exactly how i feel, they have a lack of dialogue and he's not really had anything to do yet


I would have rather him come back home during the holidays and be introduced and get the majority of interaction until venom turned up. His arc has been pants in a show that has character like liz allen featured more in it, WTF...

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

That's exactly how i feel, they have a lack of dialogue and he's not really had anything to do yet


I would have rather him come back home during the holidays and be introduced and get the majority of interaction until venom turned up. His arc has been pants in a show that has character like liz allen featured more in it, WTF...

Eddie's arc doesn't really start until episode ten, anyway.

This isn't exactly rocket science.

 

[vinny2]

Eddie's arc doesn't really start until episode ten, anyway.

This isn't exactly rocket science.

Even I, someone who doesn't have connections, figured that they weren't done with Eddie. Eddie's arc, the symbiote arc, hasn't happened. There is still plenty of episodes for Symbiote Spidey/Peter to do something that will push Eddie over the edge.

EDIT: Fixed the post. It wasn't saying what it was supposed to say. Had other implications that were unexpected.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

yea we got ep 9 tomorrow, then episode 10, and 11 for symboite spidey that we know for sure he has the symboite. Then that left half of episode 12 and then all of ep 13 for a full blown eddie truly hating peter and spiderman. I could see symboite spidey doing something to brock which causes him to not like spidey any more and then as symboite peter causes more trouble to there relationship and bam......

Indeed, and as I have said, those upcoming episodes will really show things heat up in Brock's mind.

 

[Venom 1988]

someone without connection, figured Greg Weisman wasn't done. Eddie's arc,

Even I, someone who doesn't have connections, figured that they weren't done with Eddie. Eddie's arc, the symbiote arc, hasn't happened. There is still plenty of episodes for Symbiote Spidey/Peter to do something that will push Eddie over the edge.

Sarcastic Fan is a friend of Greg Weisman

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Sarcastic Fan is a friend of Greg Weisman

Yeah, and we have proof that he is.

 

[Anwar]

If TAS could pull off Brock hating Spidey in like 2 stories, I don't see why SSM can't do a spectacular job with around 3. Especially since Brock will have a bigger part in this arc than he did in the TAS version of why he began to hate Spidey.

Of course, in this version it's Peter he hates not Spider-Man.

 

[Venomfan]

Brock/Venom is one character that i'm sure they won't do as well as TAS, that is still the best version of the character, much better then the movies and comics

 

[Spiderine]

I think it's nice to take a different approach to Eddie for a change. And until we actually see this arc play out I don't see how we can compare it to TAS version. It's possible we could feel more for his hatred here than the other version.

 

[Venomfan]

I think it's nice to take a different approach to Eddie for a change. And until we actually see this arc play out I don't see how we can compare it to TAS version. It's possible we could feel more for his hatred here than the other version.

no we can't fully judge yet, but what we've seen so far isn't near as good as what they had going for Brock in TAS by this point

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

If TAS could pull off Brock hating Spidey in like 2 stories, I don't see why SSM can't do a spectacular job with around 3. Especially since Brock will have a bigger part in this arc than he did in the TAS version of why he began to hate Spidey.

Of course, in this version it's Peter he hates not Spider-Man.

Exactly, and so far, they have done an amazing job with Brock so far, so that's most likely going to lead to great stories with Venom.

 

[Spiderine]

no we can't fully judge yet, but what we've seen so far isn't near as good as what they had going for Brock in TAS by this point

Yes, but I think thats the point. Although we have been introduced to Brock we have no idea what sort twist they have in store for his downward spiral. All we currently know is that he has been like a big brother figure to Peter and we have been seeing him sporadically since. It makes it some what intriguing to Brock's conversion to Venom. In the other version, it was very predictable for his decent into loathing Spiderman.