Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 33

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[Flint Marko]

Seconded.
Let's take a minute to appreciate what the FF truly is..

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[Hellion]

That first image is beautiful! Amazing!...No, Fantastic!...

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Not just his modesty, but his dignity as well. He looks laughable. The Thing is supposed to be this intimidating brute, a monster, but it looks like I'm watching a video game cut scene.

Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqyhVXJKy_A

 

[Marvin]

Since I apparently didn't make myself clear to you, let me try again.....I (C. Lee....an Administrator at the SHH and a poster that is a fan of the FANTASTIC FOUR) believe that your motive for posting in this forum is to create and continue arguments for arguments sake. I am convinced you are a troll that scourers various forums on here looking for a hot issue that you can then argue the contrary point of view of.

Discussing things I feel strongly about and rarely if ever in the negative is what I do on these forums, not so sure about the scouring. I'd personally(not as an Administrator mind you), describe a good amount of the motives in this thread as 'trolling' a movie they have nothing but contempt for, in spite of their 'motives' but that's me. This is a thread for a movie, and people are posting here, page after page with nothing, nothing cynicism, hate and mockery, you know kinda like trolls in most other sections dedicated to films? Then again, the definition of troll must have a different meaning on here than it used to, for only in a section like this can someone defend a film or ideas on their merits and with an open mind against non stop and admitted hate...let me stop before this very post falls into this description of yours, the one about having no sake but that of argument. I mean not like I'm trying to make a point or clarify my feelings or anything like that.

I can only imagine what sort of description I would receive if I was on the other side of the argument. I mean this is the first and only time a poster, let alone a mod has ever called me a troll. And yes, your post was far more 'honest', maybe it's semantics. Thanks for clarifying, you forgot to add imo at the end there but I suppose that was a given.

 

[pavlov]

Discussing things I feel strongly about and rarely if ever in the negative is what I do on these forums, not so sure about the scouring. I'd personally(not as an Administrator mind you), describe a good amount of the motives in this thread as 'trolling' a movie they have nothing but contempt for, in spite of their 'motives' but that's me. This is a thread for a movie, and people are posting here, page after page with nothing, nothing cynicism, hate and mockery, you know kinda like trolls in most other sections dedicated to films? Then again, the definition of troll must have a different meaning on here than it used to, for only in a section like this can someone defend a film or ideas on their merits and with an open mind against non stop and admitted hate...let stop before this very post falls into this description of yours, the one about having no sake but that of argument. I mean not like I'm trying to make a point or clarify my feelings or anything like that.

I can only imagine what sort of description I would receive if I was on the other side of the argument. I mean this is the first and only time a poster, let alone a mod has ever called me a troll. And yes, this post was far more 'honest', maybe it's semantics. Thanks for clarifying, you forgot to add imo at the end there but I suppose that was a given.

So sad really

 

[TeeKay]

Playing a victim isn't helping your case here Marvin. Especially when some of the posters here have said you're arguing for the sake of it. It isn't just C.Lee who pointed that out. I remember a while a go you said you weren't really interested in this film and that does really question what your motive is in this FF forum.

 

[Flint Marko]

Interesting bit from Bryan's Q&A on instagram today.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Interesting bit from Bryan's Q&A on instagram today.

Do you know what the question was?

 

[Flint Marko]

Do you know what the question was?

No idea, I'll try to look into it to see what it was. It was most likely just a general question about the movies quality, that's what I assumed at least.

 

[Docker2.0]

That was kind of random how he threw F4 out there when someone asked him a totally different question.

 

[Flint Marko]

That was kind of random how he threw F4 out there when someone asked him a totally different question.

I don't think it was in response to the question about the pheonix.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

No idea, I'll try to look into it to see what it was. It was most likely just a general question about the movies quality, that's what I assumed at least.

It does seem odd though, if they have any real intention of doing a cross-over, that he wouldn't have checked out at least a rough cut so he could maybe incorporate some things now toward a future cross-over.

If they want to do a cross-over, I'd almost think Kinberg would insist he check out FF.

 

[Marvin]

Playing a victim isn't helping your case here Marvin. Especially when some of the posters here have said you're arguing for the sake of it. It isn't just C.Lee who pointed that out. I remember a while a go you said you weren't really interested in this film and that does really question what your motive is in this FF forum.

I said I was indifferent to f4, I still feel passionately about ideas and fairness.
Also, given who has been accusing me, I'm only half surprised.

 

[Flint Marko]

It does seem odd though, if they have any real intention of doing a cross-over, that he wouldn't have checked out at least a rough cut so he could maybe incorporate some things now toward a future cross-over.

If they want to do a cross-over, I'd almost think Kinberg would insist he check out FF.

James Gunn has seen Ant-man and was raving about it. Today Peyton Reed revealed in an interview that before Paul Rudd began filming for Civil War, he had the Russo brothers come in and watch Ant-man to get a feel for the character before they use him.
It begs the question that, if Fox were truly as interested in a crossover as some insist they are, why have we seen zero evidence of the two properties intermingling in anyway? Especially odd when they have the same writer.

 

[The Infernal]

So sad really

What is sad is that people like you and Marvin feel the need to regularly be pedantic and snipe at other posters because they don't feel all warm and fuzzy about a movie you want to like. No, but you guys play the martyr card. That's always a winning hand.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Hoping the marketing picks up now.

 

[Flint Marko]

July is going to be a loooooong month....

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

July is going to be a loooooong month....

I disagree. We should start to see new tv spots regularly.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

This whole crossover thing has been a huge mystery to me. After waffling on this topic for years, if Fox is finally in fact moving in that direction what are the implications? If Marvel makes 1% off of X-Men and 10% off of FF how do those royalties get determined on a crossover? Which clock is reset for the property license in the crossover? Is it FF? Is it X-Men? Is it both? Who decides? Have Fox worked out some kind of new deal with Marvel or are they just fingering their nose at them at this point? Is this part of the reason for bad blood between the companies? Will all of this end up in the courts soon?

 

[Flint Marko]

I disagree. We should start to see new tv spots regularly.

I meant it would feel long with the endless debates up until the movies release. But more to your point, I think the TV spots we are going to see will be very repetitive and probably underwhelming.

This whole crossover thing has been a huge mystery to me. After waffling on this topic for years, if Fox is finally in fact moving in that direction what are the implications? If Marvel makes 1% off of X-Men and 10% off of FF how do those royalties get determined on a crossover? Which clock is reset for the property license in the crossover? Is it FF? Is it X-Men? Is it both? Who decides? Have Fox worked out some kind of new deal with Marvel or are they just fingering their nose at them at this point? Is this part of the reason for bad blood between the companies? Will all of this end up in the courts soon?

Part of me hopes that Marvel will stay silent on the whole thing up until Fox starts putting something into motion, and then they will bring down the axe.

 

[Zarex]

This whole crossover thing has been a huge mystery to me. After waffling on this topic for years, if Fox is finally in fact moving in that direction what are the implications? If Marvel makes 1% off of X-Men and 10% off of FF how do those royalties get determined on a crossover? Which clock is reset for the property license in the crossover? Is it FF? Is it X-Men? Is it both? Who decides? Have Fox worked out some kind of new deal with Marvel or are they just fingering their nose at them at this point? Is this part of the reason for bad blood between the companies? Will all of this end up in the courts soon?

These are the issues that lead me to think a FOX crossover is unlikely, if not impossible under the existing contracts. Unless terms are SPECIFICALLY detailed in either contract, a crossover represents a new use. The two studios are going to have to negotiate terms, just as we're seeing with the X Men TV show.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I meant it would feel long with the endless debates up until the movies release. But more to your point, I think the TV spots we are going to see will be very repetitive and probably underwhelming.

It baffles me that we won't be getting another trailer. It really does....

 

[Flint Marko]

It baffles me that we won't be getting another trailer. It really does....

Is that official? I thought we'd see something about it at comic con.