Fast & Furious 7 - Part 2

[JaD]

Just got back from seeing this I enjoyed it, but I didn't find it better than Five, or even 6 actually. I'd give this one a 7, whereas I think Five is like a 9, and Furious 6 is like an 8 for me.

So if I had to rank all the movies right now for me, I'd say

Fast Five
The Fast & The Furious
Furious 6
Fast & Furious
Furious 7
Tokyo Drift
2 Fast 2 Furious

I still enjoyed it but other than the send-off to Paul which was very well done, I could just feel throughout how this series hit it's peak with Five and it's starting to get a little too silly for it's own good.

Did anyone notice one of the henchmen during the rescuing Ramsey scene as being one of the racers from 2 Fast 2 Furious (John Cenatiempo)?

I thought that was pretty fun. Reminded me of how they put Ricky Tan and Soo Yung's driver in Rush Hour 3 even though they were both different characters in 1 & 2.

 

[terry78]

So the timeline of these movies is.....FF, 2F2F, F&F, F5, F6, TD, F7?

 

[Prison Mike]

So the timeline of these movies is.....FF, 2F2F, F&F, F5, F6, TD, F7?

Pretty much. It took 9 years but we've finally caught up to "present day".

 

[JaD]

Pretty much. It took 9 years but we've finally caught up to "present day".

And they actually had Lucas Black playing himself from almost 10 years ago

But it was still pretty cool for them to put it all together the way they did.

 

[terry78]

The Osama Bin Laden line kinda ****s up the continuity but I doubt anyone noticed.

 

[Prison Mike]

And they actually had Lucas Black playing himself from almost 10 years ago

But it was still pretty cool for them to put it all together the way they did.

I honestly tried to see how much he aged and couldn't tell the difference. It's been almost 9-10 years and he still looks the same!

 

[Dr. Evil]

So was Lucas Black the only Tokyo Drift character in Fast 7?

 

[JaD]

So was Lucas Black the only Tokyo Drift character in Fast 7?

Technically Bow Wow was in it but it was old footage of the last scene of Tokyo Drift. And then they extended it with Lucas Black making an official cameo.

 

[cheungcheung]

I honestly tried to see how much he aged and couldn't tell the difference. It's been almost 9-10 years and he still looks the same!

Agreed. I think he's contracted for two more movies too...

 

[yanksno1]

Caught it yesterday. Really liked it (but still liked 5 & 6 better). Thought the way they had some call backs (Race Wars & who showed up there, Drifting, Family, etc.) was great. I did sorta feel something was missing with Han not being there, and the next movie will hit even more so with Brian not being there. I thought the send off to Paul was handled really nice, and I got chocked up a bit haha. I don’t take these movies seriously, and they’re just big dumb fun action movies to me (esp since 6). Would have liked to see more Hobbs in it, even though he had the best/ridiculous part in it that totally fit him. Tyrese had some great one liners, Kurt Russell kicked ass.

This is how I’d rank them:

Fast Five
Fast & Furious 6
Furious 7
2 Fast 2 Furious
The Fast & The Furious
Fast & Furious
Tokyo Drift

I’d take a Hobbs spin-off in a second. Get Eva Mendes, Elsa Pataky and create a big action movie which he’s great at.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

I just got back from seeing this a second time. There is a HUGE plot hole that I noticed last night and I caught it again tonight.

Spoiler

During the Shaw and Dom fight on the garage building roof top in the finale , Shaw should have defintely died. He got trapped in rubble and then the team in the chopper that was after Ramsey collapsed most of the building and there is no way Shaw could have gotten away or survived that makes sense, even in the over the top world of Fast & Furious. Later it just cuts to him being put in prison. Even people in the audience tonight were confused on how he was still alive.

Did I miss something or is this a plot hole?

 

[ShadowBoxer]

The Osama Bin Laden line kinda ****s up the continuity but I doubt anyone noticed.

How so?

 

[cheungcheung]

Did I miss something or is this a plot hole?

They're all superheros now. No one can die...

 

[Spiderine]

Given how many times Dom should have died in this franchise, I don't question anyone surviving anymore. Falling out of buildings, tumbling 20 times in an automobile, head on collisions, and explosions have no effect.

 

[JaD]

How so?

If going by our timelines of when the movies came out Tokyo Drift would have taken place in 2006. Osama was killed in 2011. This movie apparently took place just after Toyko Drift but Kurt Russell's character said something about it taking a decade to take out Osama. It at least acknowledges that it'd been more than 10 years after 9/11 but the movie takes place right after Tokyo Drift so it doesn't add up.

 

[psylockolussus]

This was really good! Best Fast/Furious movie to date!

I shed a tear watching the last scene.

 

[Matt Mortem]

If going by our timelines of when the movies came out Tokyo Drift would have taken place in 2006. Osama was killed in 2011. This movie apparently took place just after Toyko Drift but Kurt Russell's character said something about it taking a decade to take out Osama. It at least acknowledges that it'd been more than 10 years after 9/11 but the movie takes place right after Tokyo Drift so it doesn't add up.

Also Letty's headstone says she "died" in 2009.

 

[JaD]

Also Letty's headstone says she "died" in 2009.

Oh yeah, much better example

And yeah, Fast & Furious came out in '09 as well.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

If going by our timelines of when the movies came out Tokyo Drift would have taken place in 2006. Osama was killed in 2011. This movie apparently took place just after Toyko Drift but Kurt Russell's character said something about it taking a decade to take out Osama. It at least acknowledges that it'd been more than 10 years after 9/11 but the movie takes place right after Tokyo Drift so it doesn't add up.

I see. Yea that does kinda ruin the continuity. But like you said it's a minor thing most people won't notice.

 

[JaD]

I see. Yea that does kinda ruin the continuity. But like you said it's a minor thing most people won't notice.

Well, yeah. terry was the one who noticed it. I missed it so point taken. But thinking about it's a pretty big goof when you think about it.

Maybe this franchise really is going to crossover with Back to the Future

 

[Shpati]

I wish Mia's role didn't have to always be the "mommy". She was always a hotty when she drove. It would've been cool to see her in a few chase or race scenes.

Since Leon was part of the "family", it would be nice to see what happened to him. I mean, we know where Hector is. What is Leon doing?

Lastly, anybody a little upset this wasn't released a little closer to summer? FF were always summer movies for me. I would watch them right when summer was around the corner like late May or early June.

Spoiler

A recent trend in movies and TV shows nowadays is that characters don't die. They always comeback somehow. They'll keep them hidden for a future plot revival. It kind of gets annoying. Unless you see the character die 110% on screen, they are likely still alive.

If Owen Shaw is still alive, so can Gisele.

 

[TheVileOne]

So the timeline of these movies is.....FF, 2F2F, F&F, F5, F6, TD, F7?

Not really. Parts of Furious 7 still take place before the epilogue of Tokyo Drift.

 

[Gold Samurai]

If going by our timelines of when the movies came out Tokyo Drift would have taken place in 2006. Osama was killed in 2011. This movie apparently took place just after Toyko Drift but Kurt Russell's character said something about it taking a decade to take out Osama. It at least acknowledges that it'd been more than 10 years after 9/11 but the movie takes place right after Tokyo Drift so it doesn't add up.

Don't you dare try to bring logic into my Fast & Furious movies, you sunnuva*****

 

[TheVileOne]

For Tokyo Drift to qualify for the third movie curse the first two films would actually have to be good and it would need to be the denouement of a trilogy which it isnt. The Fast and Furious is an enjoyable Point Break with cars, but it isn't some revelation or classic. And 2 Fast 2 Furious is juvenile ****. So Tokyo Drift didn't exactly sink a rising franchise. If anything it performed exactly as well as anyone could have hoped given the fact that neither Vin nor Paul were in that one. Diesels cameo doesn't count. Plus drifting is a lot more palatable than Roman "I'm Hongry, Cuz" Pearce and Ebonics Brian.

Now, seeing as Fast Five is considered a soft reboot of the franchise and the one that rejuvenated the franchise, and considering that Furious 7 wraps up the main character of the franchise and considering that the box office of Furious 6 was better than Fast Five and that Furios 7 is on track to have a better box office than Fast Five and Furious 6 I would say that it more than qualifies for the honor of breaking the third film curse.

Just my 2¢.

The first two movies still broke over $100 million domestically. Tokyo Drift only made $60 million.

 

[antsman41]

The Fast & The Furious takes place in around 2000, you can reference the dvd player models. Then, Brian moved to Miami while Dom was on the run... roughly more than a year has passed so we could easily put in 2002 for 2 Fast & 2 Furious, where we meet Roman. Plus, Brian has a newish 2001 Mitsubishi 3000GT within the film.

We then jump ahead for Fast &Furious about 5 years to 2008, Dom/Letty/Han are stealing oil in the Dominican republic. After about 5 months, Letty 'dies' while working under cover for Brian, sometime in 2009. Which is indicated by Leddy's gravestone and Brian steals a used modified 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Hatchback from the LAPD's impound lot.

Fast 5 takes place in 2009 and maybe into 2010. The film started right after F&F and the crew then established themselves in Rio... where they pull off an epic heist while tangling with Hobbs for the first time.

We can 'softly' place Furious 6 in 2011, we can assume it took them all sometime to settle and Hobbs has had a few different cases in between. Plus, Brian and Mia are having their boy, which would be about 9 months later from the Rio heist.

Here is the tricky part, dealing with The Fast & The Furious: Tokyo Drift. The film is pretty dated with cell phones and models of cars but we can cheat the timeline because of retcons and so forth, sometime between 2011 to 2012.

Where I can see the beginning of Furious 7 happening in 2012, where Shaw's brother attacks Hobbs, then Han is murdered, basically concurrently with The Fast & The Furious: Tokyo Drift. The rest of the film could happen in 2013. Plus, baby O'Conner is roughly 2 years old considering his rough ability to talk.

There, that was sort of fun and crazy to do.