FF 2 Rate and Review Thread

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIYOvGvmg4

^ lol

 

[Iron Man's Dad]

How does this sound.

The cloud is merely some type of device, organic or whatever, that consumes the planet and transmits it's energy to Galactus located light years away. It was not Galactus in the cloud, it was merely his image, projected at the Surfer to convey his anger (hence the flames). Thus the device is what the Surfer destroys.

I think it would be reasonable and fit the ending of the movie.

My $.02.

IMD

 

[gambitfire]

Um, i don't think movies should be blunt but sometimes you shouldn't leave things this wide open to the viewers.

I loved the movie but the assumptions being made on certain things around here are a bit out there.

Even for FF standards.

I do agree though that there was more the Galactus than that Cloud.

 

[Kelly]

Um, i don't think movies should be blunt but sometimes you shouldn't leave things this wide open to the viewers.

I loved the movie but the assumptions being made on certain things around here are a bit out there.

Even for FF standards.

I do agree though that there was more the Galactus than that Cloud.

It's not supposed to always be like that here???????????????????

 

[gambitfire]

It's not supposed to always be like that here???????????????????

I'm not saying that.

 

[Compi716]

Well, FINALLY saw the movie. I posted my review in the Hype Forum Review Showcase thread.

 

[Venomfan]

i was really excited for this movie when the trailers hit, and then with all the short running time news and bad reviews i was worried, but i really enjoyed it still.

couple of things kind of bothered me, Bens huge burp, just too childish
surfers power coming from his board
i really wish we could have at least seen Galactus' silhoutte or something, cuz the general audience definatly thinks hes just a cloud
no fighting until the end again
i didnt get what happend to Sue at the end, unless i missed something, she got stabbed, and then the spear disapeared along with her wound? so why was she still hurt? or was her wound still there and i missed it?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I agree with you about the burping thing. I am TIRED of that gag now. It's so unbelievably lame and played.

 

[Kelly]

Well, FINALLY saw the movie. I posted my review in the Hype Forum Review Showcase thread.

Post it here so we can tear it apart...I mean read it and discuss.... t: I mean enjoy it......yeah....thats it....enjoy it and discuss......

 

[flash13]

i was really excited for this movie when the trailers hit, and then with all the short running time news and bad reviews i was worried, but i really enjoyed it still.

couple of things kind of bothered me, Bens huge burp, just too childish
surfers power coming from his board
i really wish we could have at least seen Galactus' silhoutte or something, cuz the general audience definatly thinks hes just a cloud
no fighting until the end again
i didnt get what happend to Sue at the end, unless i missed something, she got stabbed, and then the spear disapeared along with her wound? so why was she still hurt? or was her wound still there and i missed it?

i was wondering about the spear disapearing......

 

[Kelly]

i was wondering about the spear disapearing......

The spear was connected to the energy that Doom shared with the board....once he was out of the way....the spear disappeared....it was simply energy connected to the board. Thats why it was able to go through her forcefield, had it just been a spear it would have bounced off....

 

[Compi716]

Post it here so we can tear it apart...I mean read it and discuss.... t: I mean enjoy it......yeah....thats it....enjoy it and discuss......

Alright, fine...

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer

It's the Fantastic Family Dynamic that Rises, Not Just the Surfer

Whew, FINALLY saw the movie. Certainly took long enough!

We all know the plot, whether our sources are the original Stan Lee/Jack Kirby book, or the movie trailer. We all know the origins of the Fantastic Four and their arch-nemesis Victor Von Doom. We all know the current relationship status of each of the main players.

So what's new? How have these characters grown (if at all)?

Thankfully, they all seem to have progressed quite a bit. Reed and Sue are planning their impending nuptials, Ben is finally coming to terms with himself as The Thing, and Johnny is, well...Johnny. They're one big happy family.

Of course, all it takes to ruin everything is a particular silvery surfer to show up and make a mess of things. And boy, does he make a MESS.

Now, the previews (and the opinions of all people from the ages of 6 to 13) lead one to believe that this is a CGI fest movie. Big explosions, cool fights, and that's really it. But the film truly shines when the family dynamic comes through. Seeing the FF together, talking like regular people, is what makes these characters human and relatable. That's what I liked most about the movie.

The actors also really pulled through, seeming to be much more comfortable with their roles than in the first film. Ioan was great as Reed, Chris was excellent as Johnny, and good ol' Chickie was fantastic as your ever lovin' blue-eyed Thing.

I would like to address Jessica Alba separately. She seems to be getting lots of flack in reviews, but I actually loved her performance. She was sweet, intelligent, caring and loving. The scene that stands out most in my mind is the aftermath of the "Wedding of the Century" being crashed, with her sitting down on the steps and crying. It was, too be honest, sort of touching.

Now, on to the newest addition to the cast: The SILVER SURFER.
One word describes him (and I apologize for the lack of vocabulary in this, but be honest, this is the perfect word for him): COOL.

He looks cool (thank you Doug Jones!). He sounds cool (thank you Laurence Fishburne, I really wasn't sure if it was going to work, but it did!). He IS cool. His backstory was touched upon just enough to give us some idea of who he is, yet still leave room to warrant a spin-off film. Hell, I even thought the concept of Norrin Radd getting the power from his surfboard worked. Well done on handling the Surfer, Story & Co.

And then there's Doom. Doom, Doom, Doom. Oh boy.

For the movie-verse, Doom was played off very well. Just glimpses at the beginning, until his final reveal. He appeared to be a serious threat...until he was defeated five minutes later. There wasn't enough tension, enough drama. I didn't feel the danger as much as I did with the Surfer. It was simply, "Doom stole the board, blew some things up, fell into the ocean." I needed MORE.

That is my main beef with Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - the running time. The movie is, simply put, not long enough. While the FF themselves just the right amount of screen time, some of the plot takes a hit. The danger doesn't build enough. The climax isn't nearly as interesting as it should be. Even with the power swapping gag (which I absolutely loved, by the way), it just isn't ENOUGH.

Now, Galactus. Would I have preferred a comic book style Galactus, complete with all his "instruments of destruction?" Yes. But the cosmic cloud in the film works for the film. I still believe there's something behind that cloud, some massive being controlling it. Hopefully he'll be fully revealed in the inevitable Silver Surfer solo film. Meanwhile, the cloud worked fine for this particular film.

But the Silver Surfer defeating Galactus with the Power Cosmic, the very power that Galactus controls? I don't think I even have to touch upon this.

All in all, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer was a fast, fun, enjoyable movie. Though there were flaws, I was very entertained, and I'm anticipating Fantastic Four 3. My one note to Story, the writers and FOX (this is ESPECIALLY pointed at YOU!): Go BIG. This film has proven that you are fully capable of bringing in concepts that are out of this world. Do NOT be afraid to do a comic-accurate adaption of the Inhumans story, or the Negative Zone, or even Namor and Atlantis (if Fox has the rights). Don't be afraid of a budget. The budget should be afraid of you.

Remember: If you THINK big, you'll BE big.

 

[flash13]

nice review!

 

[Kelly]

IMDB Votes Average
Males 6,354 6.7

Females 736 7.0

Aged under 18 922 7.3

Males under 18 765 7.2

Females under 18 154 7.7

Aged 18-29 4,911 6.6

Males aged 18-29 4,447 6.6

Females aged 18-29 443 6.9

Aged 30-44 1,017 6.7

Males aged 30-44 912 6.7

Females aged 30-44 100 6.8

Aged 45+ 218 6.5

Males aged 45+ 186 6.5

Females aged 45+ 31 6.7

Top 1000 voters 26 5.8

US users 3,959 6.7

Non-US users 3,143 6.8

All votes 7,530 6.7


Again, much like the first film, seems the females like these movies....

The overall vote is up quite a bit as well...

I think this is a fairly clear vote, you can only vote one time on your SN, I'm sure many have more than one SN, but you can't do like you can on many sites and simply clear your cookies and vote again.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am surprised that girls seem to be giving it higher ratings than guys.

 

[phillip phonix]

I have seen FF2 at the cinema three times now with the last being today, from seeing it this time i was able to look at the film for what it was without all of the aspects of being a fan of the comics or being a geek in general.

when looking at the film i found that the only real problem (forget fan problems for now!) was that the fight between Doom and jhonny was like what 2 mabey 3 mins long, if that which for the climax of the film (and being the only real fight within the film) it was too short like that of the first films climax.

i feel that because the film dose so well in building up the story that by not having a bigger climax it could be the reason what critics and a magority of the public didnt welcome the new film as the ending just isnt that spectactuar especialy when its being jugded by all the endings of the other blockbusters (aka spidey 3, battle royal)

obviously you may think i'm wrong all i can hope for is that its extended when FOX do the extended DVD after we by the origional cut!

P.S do you think that the behind the scenes cut where it shows johnny flying through a load of walls was from the climax i mean i cant think of anywhere else it would go?

 

[Kelly]

I am surprised that girls seem to be giving it higher ratings than guys.

They did the last movie as well....

 

[Spider-Fan]

They did the last movie as well....

Maybe it is because more guys read comics and whine about changes more often. That may have a little to do with it.

Though Doom did suck in FF, lol.

 

[MST3KPIMP]

In case you missed it Bestbuy.com has some kind of error & is offering the new 2 disc extended cut of FF for 9.99 which comes with a free ticket for ROTSS. You can have it delivered or do an in store pickup for free! That's the deal of the century!

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I can buy the explanation that Doom didn't know about Galactus. Even though I personally believe Doom would have challenged Galactus himself because he's an egotisical bastard. Whatever.

What kind of bothered me is that Reed was able to follow the Surfer's path but never saw Galactus. No one saw Galactus until it was right on top of Earth. Not a plot-hole, just sorta weird.

 

[LadyVader]

Maybe people just thought there was a storm coming or something.

 

[terry78]

Maybe people just thought there was a storm coming or something.

 

[Nokio]

Some may be happy to hear this, but despite my issues with FF2 i will say that it was better then Spiderman 3 and Shrek 3.

 

[Nokio]

I can buy the explanation that Doom didn't know about Galactus. Even though I personally believe Doom would have challenged Galactus himself because he's an egotisical bastard. Whatever.

What kind of bothered me is that Reed was able to follow the Surfer's path but never saw Galactus. No one saw Galactus until it was right on top of Earth. Not a plot-hole, just sorta weird.

Well considering how Galactus was so easily taken out I think both Doom and Super Johnny would've had a chance.

Well Reed was tracing the energy trail that the Surfer emitted. He would have no reason to look or scan for something like Galactus becasue he wasn't aware of him.

 

[ant3ros]

I agree with you about the burping thing. I am TIRED of that gag now. It's so unbelievably lame and played.

I thought that was so lame too. It's nice to see Thing having a good sense of humor but cheap barber shop humor doesn't work. I did like how Reed asked him about the energy trail. Reminds people that he's not just muscle and is a specialist. I wish they brought out the scientist out of Sue.