Comics Final Issue of X-Men: Genesis

[BrianWilly]

So wait, I have a question...

If Xavier was all fine and dandy all this time -- not dead or crippled or anything but just depowered -- why in the world didn't he give the X-Men a call? Why didn't he contact anyone? During a time when they needed him the most, he just went around hanging out in bars and sht?

It's never been stated, but it's not hard to assume that Xavier gave Scott legal responsibility for the institute when he went away; in Astonishing, Scott has to pay taxes and for the school so obviously he has at least some owner's privileges for the property. Just because you founded or created something doesn't mean that you own it forever; just ask Siegel and Shuster.

With his actions in Deadly Genesis, Xavier had betrayed the institute. He betrayed what he stood for and the very things he'd taught his students from day one. Even if Scott didn't have the legal backing to kick Xavier out, which is unlikely, he was completely justified morally and figuratively.

 

[Valechan]

Civilians mean nothing, I spoke of characters who mattered.

And PLEASE!!! HCT is the greatest crap ever written!!! The whole world going to Hell cause Cyclops won't run the school??? That's pathethic, especially with so many X-Men that were returning to the school. What happened was that Morrison had a very narrow view of the X-World and only wrote about those bloody 6 chars he chose, failing to realise the X-Men are far more than just those 6 chars. There are tons of chars who would have taken Xavier's place, even if Summers was gone, besides Beast.

And yes, I do dislike Cyclops a lot, and the happiest time was when he "died" in 1999/2000.

 

[roach]

A Headmaster doesnt own the school....it is just a glorified name for Prinicpal.

 

[roach]

dbl post

 

[roach]

So wait, I have a question...

If Xavier was all fine and dandy all this time -- not dead or crippled or anything but just depowered -- why in the world didn't he give the X-Men a call? Why didn't he contact anyone? During a time when they needed him the most, he just went around hanging out in bars and sht?

It's never been stated, but it's not hard to assume that Xavier gave Scott legal responsibility for the institute when he went away; in Astonishing, Scott has to pay taxes and for the school so obviously he has at least some owner's privileges for the property. Just because you founded or created something doesn't mean that you own it forever; just ask Siegel and Shuster.

With his actions in Deadly Genesis, Xavier had betrayed the institute. He betrayed what he stood for and the very things he'd taught his students from day one. Even if Scott didn't have the legal backing to kick Xavier out, which is unlikely, he was completely justified morally and figuratively.

Didnt you get the memo..Xavier according to marvel is evil now

 

[Colossal Spoons]

A Headmaster doesnt own the school....it is just a glorified name for Prinicpal.

Well this is like Zack telling Mr.Belding to leave Bayside High

 

[roach]

Well this is like Zack telling Mr.Belding to leave Bayside High

exactly

 

[Optic Rage]

A Headmaster doesnt own the school....it is just a glorified name for Prinicpal.

He does if he was the one who built it from the ground up and has been running it since the old owner decided to leave & retire.

Didnt you get the memo..Xavier according to marvel is evil now

No. According to marvel Xavier is now human.

Well this is like Zack telling Mr.Belding to leave Bayside High

Do you not read other peoples posts??...or do you just blindly stick with what you think is right despite evidence to the contrary.

I'm not going to bother debating with someone if they don't even read your posts.

Bottom line is Xavier DESERVED to be kicked out of the school..and he knows it.

He's lucky Emma didn't get to him first..god knows what she would of done for payback.

 

[HandOfFate]

He does if he was the one who built it from the ground up and has been running it since the old owner decided to leave & retire.

LOL, Emma would be the one who built the school from the ground up, not Scott.

Gotta love having a rich girlfriend.

 

[roach]

He does if he was the one who built it from the ground up and has been running it since the old owner decided to leave & retire.




No. According to marvel Xavier is now human.



Do you not read other peoples posts??...or do you just blindly stick with what you think is right despite evidence to the contrary.

I'm not going to bother debating with someone if they don't even read your posts.

Bottom line is Xavier DESERVED to be kicked out of the school..and he knows it.

He's lucky Emma didn't get to him first..god knows what she would of done for payback.

If Walt Disney didnt name a sucessor to the Disney empire and just up and left can someone just come in and claim to own the company??????
Scott and Emma are just the Headmasters. Xavier never sold them the land he put them in charge of the school. Much like American Football... a coach can come in and make changes but the team still is owned by someone else.
So until you can put forth proof that Xavier gave them his land and fortune then you need to drop the holier than thou attitude

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Do you not read other peoples posts??...or do you just blindly stick with what you think is right despite evidence to the contrary.

I'm not going to bother debating with someone if they don't even read your posts.

You're new, around here we do this thing called "joke around". I'm well aware of the evidence presented by many people in the last few pages, I just saw a SBTB analogy and went for it. I wasn't even debating with YOU anyway.

 

[roach]

I like how Xavier's plan for dealing with Krakatoa was to continually throw Mutants at it. If Scott,Logan and Ororo didnt work I wonder who the back up to the back up to the back up was???

 

[Colossal Spoons]

He could have at least used more of Moira's kids instead of X-Men. Better to send strangers to their deaths than your own pupils, I always say

 

[roach]

He could have at least used more of Moira's kids instead of X-Men. Better to send strangers to their deaths than your own pupils, I always say

because when you are fighting an island four untrained mutants will suffice

 

[Optic Rage]

LOL, Emma would be the one who built the school from the ground up, not Scott.

Gotta love having a rich girlfriend.

Eh I'm sure she lets him have access to all her money. and plus it was Emma who asked Scott to help her rebuild the School. But like you said, there is nothing in text to say who owns what[well apart from the mansion which belongs to Emma and Scott] But my original point was the Cyclops is/was more then entitled to kick Xavier out after what he done.

If Walt Disney didn't name a sucessor to the Disney empire and just up and left can someone just come in and claim to own the company??????
Scott and Emma are just the Headmasters. Xavier never sold them the land he put them in charge of the school. Much like American Football... a coach can come in and make changes but the team still is owned by someone else.
So until you can put forth proof that Xavier gave them his land and fortune then you need to drop the holier than thou attitude

So wait, Putting forth my opinion is now considered acting holier then tough?

If Walt decided he didn't want to run the company any more and left it in ruins and also leaves the country and doesn't tell anyone were he was for months as well as being a complete mind ****er then i think if someone came in and rebuilt the company from scratch and had been keeping it going for months is more then entitled to teach the old owner a lesson for ****ing him over.

You're new, around here we do this thing called "joke around". I'm well aware of the evidence presented by many people in the last few pages, I just saw a SBTB analogy and went for it. I wasn't even debating with YOU anyway.

Joke around? so wait you've responded about 10-15 times on the matter but your just joking around? and your not debating with me yet you quoted one of my posts and replied to it.

Oh and I'm not new, Ive been reading this forum for around a year and a half. So please don't presume i don't know how this forum works.

Oh and SHH is known for many things..but the members joking around with each other is not one of them.

Anyways I'm going on vacation for 3 weeks so i wont be able to respond to any of your replies...and iv pretty much said all i can/will say regarding if Scott was right to kick Xavier out or not. and I'm sure the majority think he was, as i have yet to hear any valid facts proclaiming he was wrong.

 

[roach]

Do you not read other peoples posts??...or do you just blindly stick with what you think is right despite evidence to the contrary.

I'm not going to bother debating with someone if they don't even read your posts.

this isnt opinion...it is holier than thou

 

[roach]

also according to comics in the event that Xavier is incapacitated or dead the school and estate are transfered to Juggernaut

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Whew, glad the Cyclops fanbase is going on vacation.

 

[Nightwolf]

I just thought of something, how did Sinister know about Vulcan?

 

[El Bastardo]

That's probably not that hard to answer, all things considered.

He's Sinister. He's like that unseen monster under every child's bed, essentially the physical manifestation of evil in the X-Men mythos. He could have very well been watching the entire time Xavier was handling Moira's kids.

 

[Nightwolf]

I guess, i hope they bring it up. Infact just bring Sinister back anyways, with the return of apocalypse and now the 3rd Summers i think it would be a good time to do it.

 

[Aptman]

I guess, i hope they bring it up. Infact just bring Sinister back anyways, with the return of apocalypse and now the 3rd Summers i think it would be a good time to do it.

and you have to consider that Sinister has been watching the Summer-line very close since just before they moved to America. I'm sure he was very interested in the "death" of one person in that line...he had to be doing something other than tormenting Scott as a young orphan.

 

[Galact-Gal]

So, when did Cyclops become a bigot? Regardless of whether it's legal for him to kick out Xavier, what really bothers me is the reason he gave: That Charlie is no longer a mutant.
Isn't mutant/human harmony one of the ideals of the school? Way to go, Scott!

 

[BrianWilly]

Well, Emma kicked all the human students out of the school already anyway. Scott was probably just fishing for excuses to get Xavier out of there, not that he needed any.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

So, when did Cyclops become a bigot? Regardless of whether it's legal for him to kick out Xavier, what really bothers me is the reason he gave: That Charlie is no longer a mutant.
Isn't mutant/human harmony one of the ideals of the school? Way to go, Scott!

i dont so much think as that was the reason.. just that he was using that to throw back in his face to get at him.