Fire vs Ice...Human Torch vs Ice Man??? Please...

Discussion in 'Fight Club' started by casketmouth, Jul 8, 2005.

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Human Torch Vs Ice Man

  1. Johnny Storm

  2. Bobby Drake

  3. Draw

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  1. XFanTim Two-Time DTL Champion

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    Yeah, but Iceman apparently now has the power to travel instantaneously through moisture, like he did in the AOA, so depending what sort of environment they're fighting in that can basically mean teleportation.
     
  2. SLVRSR4 Registered

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    oh didn;t know that bobby wins then already voted for johnny though:(
     
  3. Varient Guru for Geeks

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    It's a thought how they are using particle theory here.
    Iceman w/o Morals to the death = Wins.
    Iceman w/morals and all known feats at his command = wins.

    Iceman as written off-hand by torchfans = loses.

    Johnny Storm is overrated.
    :)
     
  4. Jplaya2023 Registered

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    they would cancel eachother out
     
  5. ddubbz08 Registered

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    Geek
     
  6. taskmaster We all float down here.

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    you are just mad because he is right. :xmen:
     
  8. Guyverjay Registered

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    Hmm I'm going to go agant the grain here and say Torch. He jus needs to get a good bit of space between him and Ice man let rip with the nova blast.
     
  9. Torchd Registered

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    For anyone who actually read the comic does "without the use of his usual ice slide" mean he can fly? And did you get to see him fly? Thanks
     
  10. Torchd Registered

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    In the marvel encyclopedia on the iceman page it says "After years as a percieved lightweight, Iceman began experimenting with his abilities, adding mass to his slight frame and lifting himself high into the air without the aid of his customary ice slides"? So to the people who read comic where he did that was he flying and did you get to see him fly if so? Thanks
     
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    they would cancel eachother out

    fire = ice
     
  13. DBM Mad Scientist

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    He does not fly. What they mean is that rather than using an ice slide he actually just adds to and expands his body.
     
  14. Torchd Registered

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    Like makes himself bigger?
     
  15. Midnight Ice Registered

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    like he did in Age of Apocalypse :xmen:
     
  16. Torchd Registered

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    I didn't get to read AoA.
     
  17. DBM Mad Scientist

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    Yes. More or less
     
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  19. SuGarRush The praetor of prattle

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    I am not saying that Johnny is not powerful. He just would not beat Bobby.
    I am being serious when I say I would love to see a scenario where Johnny actually beats Bobby realistically.
     
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  21. SuGarRush The praetor of prattle

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    oh and is there an AoA tpb? I would love to get my hands on it, never read any of that stuff...
     
  22. Franklin Richards Registered

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    Johnny's reach is much further than Bobby's. That's where Bobby loses it.

    Also everyone also talks about how Bobby can control the moisture in the air or someones body. So what? Johnny can control the temperature of air and moisture and someone's body. He could just as easily change the temperature around the water molecules that Bobby manipulates.

    Basically what I'm saying is that all these arguments about the battle being waged on the micro level are useless. They both pretty much counter any sort of cheap shot that the other could give. The contest would be in the fighting.


    And that's where I see Johnny winning from a distance.


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  23. SuGarRush The praetor of prattle

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    well franky, i gotta ask, how do you get that johnny has a longer range than bobby?
     
  24. Franklin Richards Registered

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    Well... Johnny can fly and his Nova Flame range is much farther than anything I've seen Bobby do. I"m not saying I've seen Bobby do everything, but I've seen alot. Even since his Omega Mutant status and such.

    Johnny is more maneuvarable <sp?>. Everything I've seen in 40 years of XMen and FF tells me that.


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  25. SuGarRush The praetor of prattle

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    well you gotta remember that nova flame is not exactly something he throws around on a regular basis.
    but I wonder if you are right. Does Johnny have a longer range?
    Someone with more comics than me will have to answer this one. My collection of anything outside DeadPOol is rather limited...
     

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