Iceman vs Human Torch

Big fan of both characters but the human torch would melt Mr. drake easily

 

If Human Torch can go Supernova and destroy all life on earth, then I don't think Iceman has much of a chance.

 

Iceman didn't even know his powers were still active. Johnny takes it.

 

Torches can't burn when they're packed in Ice. Sorry Johnny...

 

When has he been able to do that!?

 

If your talking about Iceman from the 90`s,and the Classic Human Torch.Then its a really hard battle to decide on.

 

I think Johnny takes it. He's been at the hero business longer, is more creative and experimental with his powers, plus he's faster and more aggressive than Bobby.

 

I gotta go with Johnny, but if it was Emma Frost in Bobbys body, then I gotta go with Iceman. Remember, Iceman doesnt even know half of the stuff he can do.....

 

Torch is hot as Sun, Iceman can't beat him.

 

I think that would be enough to wipe out a good many people, plus on resident man made of ice.

 

Johnny

 

i like the way people are saying johhny can get as hot as the sun,

yeah, like bobby is every going to let that happen....



in a no hold's barred match, johnny is gone before he knows what's going on.

Robert practically can control remove kinetic energy of molecules, no kinetic energy, no friction, no friction, no heat, no heat no fight no contest....


besides, i'v posted this opinion in another thread already and i'm sure many others similar to this have been done in the past.

 

Great logic, Odin.

With that argument I agree with you, chances are bobby would take Johnny out before he could get that hot. Plus the fact that bobby could freeze the blood in people veins, effectively killing them.

If you pitted them together in a match to the death, like you said, With said argument, I think bobby would also win.

 

Johnny is gone before he knows what's going on? What part of "The Torch has the ability to fly at speeds approaching the speed of sound" did you miss? Not only does Johnny have experience and better knowledge of his powers over Bobby, he too manipulates molecular energy (his own at least) to counter Iceman's attempts. Plus, he's not re-written nearly as often to seem invincible so that steam crap will probably go the way of Angel's energy wings or Magneto's Magnetic Glare thing.

 

dude, johnny doens't even stand a chance....


ice man has full control of his body on a molecular level, just because johnny evaporates him in a bout doesn't mean he's dead, just means he's turned to water vapour, and will revive himself at another point.

Now please explain to me how Johnny can beat someone like that via flames cause changing the molecular makeup of someone doesn't costitute a victory?

you speak of flying but you forget that johnny has to be on fire for that to happen. Again how is this going to happen if bobby forbids it from occuring. Johnny has to use up far more energy to stay ignite than bobby has to from stopping him. At the end of the day bobby has more in the bank and spends relatively less of it doing what he has to in order to make sure johnny brings nothing to the table (and even if he did, it would be useless)


I don't feel there is anything johnny can do to kill bobby, while there is plenty bobby can do to make johnny redundant in battle or perhaps kill him if he so desires.


in any given situation johnny needs oxygen fuel and heat, he certainly isn't in control in the oxygen around him, if bobby was to freeze this and turn it all into liquid form, not only with bobby be unable to breathe but to also ignite. There is so much going against johnny here, its just unfait to think about it.

johnny
goes
down
hard.

 

since i'm kinda in love with johnny, i guess my vote is biased, but bobby is a truly formidable opponent and i'm confident it would be a very close fight: its possible for either man to win depending on how level headed they stay during the fight
-kittycat

 

Wait....johnny needs oxygen to fight, if you think about it. Icemans powers are to manipulate the water in the air to form into ice...If he makes all of the water in the air hover around Johnnys body, he couldnt form into fire...

 

What you guys are forgetting is that while Iceman might someday maybe be that powerful... his own ineptitude as a person prevents him from reaching that potential. Johnny doesn't have that problem.

 

hmmm...I'm thinking that the results of this will turn out to be a big smoky cloud over a puddle of water

 

Sorry Drake, but Johnny Storm would win.

 

Both have unknown and possibly limitless potential with their powers. However Johnny Storm eek has more discipline and confidence than Drake in regards to his powers. Storm takes it

 

Both can defeat the other depending on setting, circumstance.
But all-out and in most cases, The Torch would win.

 

Right now= Johnny

If Iceman completely explored his powers then him. but since he hasnt done that then..yeah.