Comics Iceman vs Human Torch

[icetorchdude]

I was wondering who would win. Because since Iceman does not know the limits of his power,and Human Torch can get as hot as the sun, who would win between the two titans?Personally I think Iceman would.

 

[ghost113]

Big fan of both characters but the human torch would melt Mr. drake easily

 

[Brainiac 8]

If Human Torch can go Supernova and destroy all life on earth, then I don't think Iceman has much of a chance.

 

[Sweeney Todd]

Iceman didn't even know his powers were still active. Johnny takes it.

 

[Dark Beast]

Torches can't burn when they're packed in Ice. Sorry Johnny...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

If Human Torch can go Supernova and destroy all life on earth, then I don't think Iceman has much of a chance.

When has he been able to do that!?

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

If your talking about Iceman from the 90`s,and the Classic Human Torch.Then its a really hard battle to decide on.

 

[Cyclops]

I think Johnny takes it. He's been at the hero business longer, is more creative and experimental with his powers, plus he's faster and more aggressive than Bobby.

 

[cookiva]

I gotta go with Johnny, but if it was Emma Frost in Bobbys body, then I gotta go with Iceman. Remember, Iceman doesnt even know half of the stuff he can do.....

 

[psylockolussus]

Torch is hot as Sun, Iceman can't beat him.

 

[Brainiac 8]

When has he been able to do that!?

Powers

The torch's primary power is to envelop himself in, and manipulate flame. The Human Torch can direct this flame as a blast of superheated plasma, or manipulate it for various shapes, temperatures, or effects. The Torch has the ability to fly at speeds approaching the speed of sound, and he has vaporized bullets in flight. The uppermost level of The Human Torch's power is his "Nova Flame," which is usually released omni-directionally and reaches temperatures of 1,000,000 degrees. Any level lower than this cannot burn him. The Human Torch can also direct beams of "Nova Heat" as an offensive weapon for very brief periods of time before his heat energy gives out.

I think that would be enough to wipe out a good many people, plus on resident man made of ice.

 

[icetorchdude]

Well,
Since Iceman was invaded by Emma Frost, he is much more experimental and has even explored transporting himself without the use of his customary ice slides. I think that Iceman would win because he has frozen entire body's of water *ON CONTACT*! I Think that is real serious crap.Even if Torch used his "Nova Blast", Iceman could still regenarate his body.He has entered a steam in somewhere, and came out almost an instant later at a diffrent place. So, if Human torch did that "Nova Blast" Iceman could go to another part of the world,come back and beat a weak Torch. i think Iceman is smart enough to do that.

 

[Kmack]

Johnny

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

i like the way people are saying johhny can get as hot as the sun,

yeah, like bobby is every going to let that happen....



in a no hold's barred match, johnny is gone before he knows what's going on.

Robert practically can control remove kinetic energy of molecules, no kinetic energy, no friction, no friction, no heat, no heat no fight no contest....


besides, i'v posted this opinion in another thread already and i'm sure many others similar to this have been done in the past.

 

[Brainiac 8]

i like the way people are saying johhny can get as hot as the sun,

yeah, like bobby is every going to let that happen....



in a no hold's barred match, johnny is gone before he knows what's going on.

Robert practically can control remove kinetic energy of molecules, no kinetic energy, no friction, no friction, no heat, no heat no fight no contest....


besides, i'v posted this opinion in another thread already and i'm sure many others similar to this have been done in the past.

Great logic, Odin.

With that argument I agree with you, chances are bobby would take Johnny out before he could get that hot. Plus the fact that bobby could freeze the blood in people veins, effectively killing them.

If you pitted them together in a match to the death, like you said, With said argument, I think bobby would also win.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Johnny is gone before he knows what's going on? What part of "The Torch has the ability to fly at speeds approaching the speed of sound" did you miss? Not only does Johnny have experience and better knowledge of his powers over Bobby, he too manipulates molecular energy (his own at least) to counter Iceman's attempts. Plus, he's not re-written nearly as often to seem invincible so that steam crap will probably go the way of Angel's energy wings or Magneto's Magnetic Glare thing.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

dude, johnny doens't even stand a chance....


ice man has full control of his body on a molecular level, just because johnny evaporates him in a bout doesn't mean he's dead, just means he's turned to water vapour, and will revive himself at another point.

Now please explain to me how Johnny can beat someone like that via flames cause changing the molecular makeup of someone doesn't costitute a victory?

you speak of flying but you forget that johnny has to be on fire for that to happen. Again how is this going to happen if bobby forbids it from occuring. Johnny has to use up far more energy to stay ignite than bobby has to from stopping him. At the end of the day bobby has more in the bank and spends relatively less of it doing what he has to in order to make sure johnny brings nothing to the table (and even if he did, it would be useless)


I don't feel there is anything johnny can do to kill bobby, while there is plenty bobby can do to make johnny redundant in battle or perhaps kill him if he so desires.


in any given situation johnny needs oxygen fuel and heat, he certainly isn't in control in the oxygen around him, if bobby was to freeze this and turn it all into liquid form, not only with bobby be unable to breathe but to also ignite. There is so much going against johnny here, its just unfait to think about it.

johnny
goes
down
hard.

 

[9livesKitty]

since i'm kinda in love with johnny, i guess my vote is biased, but bobby is a truly formidable opponent and i'm confident it would be a very close fight: its possible for either man to win depending on how level headed they stay during the fight
-kittycat

 

[cookiva]

Wait....johnny needs oxygen to fight, if you think about it. Icemans powers are to manipulate the water in the air to form into ice...If he makes all of the water in the air hover around Johnnys body, he couldnt form into fire...

 

[Cyclops]

What you guys are forgetting is that while Iceman might someday maybe be that powerful... his own ineptitude as a person prevents him from reaching that potential. Johnny doesn't have that problem.

 

[OutcryX]

hmmm...I'm thinking that the results of this will turn out to be a big smoky cloud over a puddle of water

 

[CYBER-ME]

Sorry Drake, but Johnny Storm would win.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Both have unknown and possibly limitless potential with their powers. However Johnny Storm eek has more discipline and confidence than Drake in regards to his powers. Storm takes it

 

[nimrod]

Both can defeat the other depending on setting, circumstance.
But all-out and in most cases, The Torch would win.

 

[Star]

Right now= Johnny

If Iceman completely explored his powers then him. but since he hasnt done that then..yeah.