Justice League First Justice League movie. Which threat and which way to unite the members!

[NosfeRomas]

Thanos came after, but he wasn't supposed to be a Darkseid rip-off, it was practically accidental.

lol, not really. It was intentional with hopes that people wouldn't notice.

 

[Mightyally]

^lol

 

[Lord]

It was originally more similar to Metron actually

 

[Mightyally]

The Forever Evil thing going on atm is so awesome. I would really like for that to happen later on, not in the first movie tho. I hope they go with an AQ or WW villain in the first.

 

[Lord]

A crisis type of film for the sequel would make sence, i'm of course talking about the one with the Crime Sindicate like JLA: Earth Two and Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, not the full blown crisis on infinite eaths with the anti-monitor.

Blockbuster Buster actually made an interesting vídeo dealing with what the first JL film should be like, though i will have to disagree on his notion of Darkseid, he's a threat that could be dealt by the league in their first going since they're strong enough, and he isn't the biggest threat there is.

If you want to make some 7 movies i can see trying to plan ahead and hold Darkseid for the 3rd film, but if not then i think there's more than enough to take from other stories, the crisis aspect could also be played to get the stakes even higher in sequels, it's another concept DC has that is unique to them. Whatever the first film is like, there are a lot of interesting takes they can later take for sequels, like crisis on two earths, Tower of Babel, Darkseid all out war, the Justice Miniseries, Throne of Atlantis, or even Crisis on Infinite Earths (if well developed and after multiple movies, a film with the concept of this film could be amazing, but it would have to be very different from the original comic, the Anti-Monitor cold even later lead into a Sinestro Corps War film).

 

[Mightyally]

Yeah man

 

[113]

I would love either a Vandal Savage and Legion of Doom storyline (similar to Justice League Doom) or a Black Adam storyline with The Rock as Adam.

 

[PaulRom]

Darkseid or Brainiac. You need a very powerful villain to justify bringing together the most powerful superheroes. IE, someone who can easily take out Superman or Green Lantern one-on-one, but can be matched by an entire team of these heroes. Injustice League or Crime Syndicate would certainly work in that field, but would be too much to introduce in the first movie.

 

[Airwings]

A Pacific Rim esque monster would be a great threat. But I guess that train has left the station.

 

[Mightyally]

Firstly 113, you do understand that Black Adam is going to be twice the size of supes hehe? The Rock should be Doomsday, Lobo or Darkseid.
All charachters that requires acting skills, huge bodies and where the actors original look won´t be seen at all.

Secondly PulRom. I agree that CSA can´t be used even if it should later with Matt Bomer as Ultraman

Brainiac? So yet another kryptonian/MoS villain that invades Earth again?
Darkseid could work but would need nice development since he brings a lot to the party. But another alien invasion, really?

Personally I hope to see Savage-Amazo. The reason for this is that Savage and Amazo are pure JL villains. Savage could try to destroy or conquer Earth and not do this as aliens invading.
He would also be one of those evil geniuses on par with Batman. He would hire Ivo and they would develop Amazo so that Savage could acquire the parts necessary for his machine.
I think it could be pretty cool, Savage has connections to the past to exploit, a great mind, a cool origin and nice ambitions. Personally I´d like if Jason Momoa played Savge.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I don't think Bomer would be a convincing villain, and I don't think Mamoa could play a good Vandal Savage. I don't see Jason Momoa playing an intelligent immortal. He's more suited to Doomsday or some other character that doesn't require much talking

 

[Mightyally]

I see what you mean with Bomer not being able to play a convincing villain but he did voice Superman in Unbound, looks like Cavill and is a pretty good actor actually. I think he could do it.

Regarding Momoa, I think you´re completely wrong. We´re lucky if we have him in the DC universe. I think he could play a great intelligent immortal.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Jason Momoa's best role is as a dude who basically just grunts. He'd be best as Lobo or Doomsday imo.

Javier Bardem is my choice for Vandal Savage. I think he can do intelligent more convincingly than Momoa. Plus IMO he looks just like the JL animated series Vandal Savage

 

[Mightyally]

Lobo´s the main man, and he likes to talk about it. If you want Momoa for ppl that grunts then Lobo is a no. Doomsday would be better. I´m kinda hopeing The Rock will be Darkseid, Lobo or Doomsday!

Yeah he I think he could do a really good Savage. Lol "just like" is maybe a little strech hehe

 

[Walt Bickle]

seeing as they seem like they are going to rush things I tried to think of the best way to do it.
Have Martian Manhunter show up at the the end of Batman vs Superman confronting the two of them and Wonderwoman saying he has come out of hiding because Superman has to and says they need to team and recruit more like them for a threat thats approaching.

Then do a Flash movie and have Martain Manhunter, Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman, Jon Stewart GL and aquaman confront Flash at the end with the same message.

Then do the JL movie.
have them against Amazo and someone else pulling the strings in the backround. This will give good character development time for the league. Bring in the kryptonian tech for this story and have the JL movie also be an origin story for Cyborg.

Have Martian Manhunter getting killed half way threw the movie and cyborg filling the extra space in the roster and superman taking over the leader role. And now the team is formed.

If you wanted to go further you could have John Stewarts backstory as shortly after the green lantern movie with Reynolds, Hal Jordan was killed along with the other corps by Sinestro, and the Sinestro somehow wipes the worlds minds of this and the events of the green lantern movie so he can strike again . Hal then chooses John to be the one to stop Sinestro and John then meets Martian Manhunter and warns him of whats to come. Sinestro could be the one pulling the strings behind Amazo!

 

[Lord]

I don't see the point of introducing Martian Manhunter, only to kill him off in order to give Cyborg the place, and if Amazo is the villain then i don't see the need to have Martian Manhunter as the one delivering the news, the characters an inside threat after all.

 

[Mightyally]

MMH is cool but I wouldn´t want him until the second JL movie tbh.

 

[Walt Bickle]

^ Very interesting! The movie could start with Wally West holding the Flash´s mask in his hands, like we don´t know if his gonna put it on, throw it or if someone just found it etc.

We then go back in time to when Flash = Barry Allen, he is like the first superhero, much like cap in WW2. We get the origin of his powers, some mission/action, what he does for a living and how famous he was etc.
Then the Kid Flash W.W comes along and we learn some about him and get the dynamic between the 2.

In the end, Barry actually dies (of a wound beyond healing) and gives the mask to W.W

W.W: "I need to take you to the hospital"
B.A: "Nah #cough#...You aren´t gonna out run this one kid. The only thing running out today is me. You can´t beat me today Wally."
W.W "If I only was faster I could have prevented all this"
B.A "Nah it´s not your fault kid. It´s not about always being first you know, it´s about being there, making a difference. As we did today. Now comes the time for you to make that difference." #hands over his mask#
W.W: But I can´t do it alone!"
B.A: "You´ll not have to"
W.W "What do you mean Barry, who do yo..?"
B.A:#Nothing# (dead)

After that we see him at home packing away Barry´s old suit. Suddenly he drops it next his own on the bed.
He silently stands still and we can see Barry´s suit now lying next to his own Kid-Flash one. We hear the TV for a while, nothing special though.
W.W looks outside with an empty look at the world. The sun is shining through the glass and some kids are playing just outside.

TV: "Breaking News!" A robber on Highway 43 is currently endangering the lives of..."

#Shwoosh# W.W is gone, leaving only the Kid Flash suit on the bed. Before you know it the credits start roling down.

In the after credit scene we could see MoS and/or Batman looking at the TV. Then we hear "Breaking News! A robber on Highway 43 is currently endangering the lives of hundreds as he" and on the screen we actually see Wally stoping the robber. Then we see MoS and Batman smile at the same time in the reflection of the TV glass.

really like this. dunno bout Barry being the first superhero though... and dunno bout wally officially being called kid flash, but barry calling him kid would be cool.

another interesting direction would to have the after credits scen in flash you mentioned at the end of BvsS instead and then have it play out again on W.W 's tv again after he sets off.

 

[Walt Bickle]

I don't see the point of introducing Martian Manhunter, only to kill him off in order to give Cyborg the place, and if Amazo is the villain then i don't see the need to have Martian Manhunter as the one delivering the news, the characters an inside threat after all.

dc are wiping him from history so this will be the last chance to use him, and what better way then for him to set up the JL. I ment AMAZO as the physical villain with the mind villain in charge

 

[Lord]

I don't think Amazo would make that interesting of a threat, i mean, first General Zod, then Lex Luthor, and after that you follow it with the likes of Amazo for what's supposed to be the grand event?

 

[Walt Bickle]

I don't think Amazo would make that interesting of a threat, i mean, first General Zod, then Lex Luthor, and after that you follow it with the likes of Amazo for what's supposed to be the grand event?

he mimics all there super powers. eventually he will be the 7 justice league members combined. that's a pretty big threat.

so instead of the league using there powers, they will have to rely on teamwork and trusting each other.
I think this would be perfect for a first movie, not saying to make it the ultimate battle. maybe the 2nd last one. then they are ready as a team to take the big bad guy

 

[Lord]

That's the thing, he's an equal to them, difference being that he's only one and therefore will have to focus his attention to multiple targets, while they will each be experts with their oun powers, Amazo's just in a big trouble. Also, how does him stealing powers works? They're not mutants whose powers come from a single gene or source, each one has them through different means and both Aquaman and Wonder Woman use tools with different powers of their oun.

And who would be the big bad guy behind Amazo?

 

[Mightyally]

really like this. dunno bout Barry being the first superhero though... and dunno bout wally officially being called kid flash, but barry calling him kid would be cool.

another interesting direction would to have the after credits scen in flash you mentioned at the end of BvsS instead and then have it play out again on W.W 's tv again after he sets off.

Thx man!

I don't think Amazo would make that interesting of a threat, i mean, first General Zod, then Lex Luthor, and after that you follow it with the likes of Amazo for what's supposed to be the grand event?

It´s Vandal Savage that will try to conquer earth by messing with the sun, using some machine or even spread some poision/mind control thing etc.

He must aquire parts so he hires IVO to build an ultimate machine that can easily rival the likes of Batman (Wayne Enterprise), Green Arrow(Star Labs) and Lex(Lexcorp).Maybe even to acquire something from Atlantis.
Anyways, the robot evolves beyond that of the ordinary intent and each league member are having trouble besting the machine. Batman and MoS starts recruiting. Of course Batman got all the other heroes identities already lol.

During the end it´s all about the league trusting eachother, sacrifcing, working together (as a first JL-movie should be all about along with introdcutions of the charachters and developments of dynamics between them)
and so on to beat Amazo who has become incredibly powerful. Personally I´d like if they made Amazo kinda guud as in the JL Tv-series. Like the League manages to beat the crap out of Amazo eventually with some mega uber combo with awesome effects and while everything goes quiet they manage to shut him down, Savage laughs because the machine/sun-missliles are already beyond reverseing. Superman is too slow, Flash can´t run in space etc. That´s when Amazo wakes up kills Savage (who we/the league might not know is immortal btw) combine all the leagues powers and gets there in time and goes missing. The reason for why he suddenly became an intelligence of free will is because they damaged something in this uber mega super combo attack of doom.

I rather have Savage and Amazo so that the JL chatachters can get some extra time opposed to bringing in Darkseid who has a lot story going on. Personally I´d prefer Darkseid for the second JL-movie and CSA for the third. Darkseid should slide in to the MoS movies after JL 2. Would be kinda cool if he was the one who sent Doomsday to Earth so that Supes would die. Darkseid should hold a grudge against the league for beating him. Also, the kryptonian might have made DS curious because few can rival his godly powers. So he explores the remains of Krypton where he finds the phantomzone and encounters Doomy, the MoS movie could open with that.

 

[Lord]

If done like the JL comic, Darkseid could work very well, you don't need to introduce the other New Gods right away and so the character could later return. And it's not another alien invasion, this is satan himself invading earth.

 

[Mightyally]

The New 52 comics has been weak in my opinion as well. However, the same can´t be said about Forever Evil. I really think the JL comics will git guud from now on.
I mean Hal was in space fighting the third army and Barry barely visited the JL comics the second and third vol. I think they will use Hal and Barry more now!!

Still an alien invasion bro, even if he is mighty alright. I wouldn´t be sad if they made JL about DS but I don´t see it happening and I don´t want it to happen.