Sequels FOX Shared Universe

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Would anyone want The Richard kids appearing in a New Mutants sequel?

 

[def28]

Ooooooor they don't blow their load in a press conference and let the individual movies speak for themselves. That's why fans were crying about too much or not enough set up in AoU for future films.

What? I'm not following how that relates to them actually knowing what they are doing and being organized.

Fox are not idiots, they will have more then one person orchestrating how to make this work along with Kinberg. Doesn't need to be like Marvel. But when they have characters in dfifferent decades, multiple characters showing up in eachothers film etct that will take actual mapping out with now what? 6 IP's coming up?

There will be even more retcons and recasting if they don't. I would assume the goal is to last no?

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

There will be even more retcons and recasting if they don't.

Marvel has so many retcons and recasting its not even funny

 

[def28]

I have no idea what your debating.

Do you not want them to actually know how their exapanded Universe works

Having a scattered cluttered mess of franchises that don't fit together would be the dumbest move they could make in an effort to have an expanded franchise.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

You don't know the timelines of any of the films except Apocalypse. FOX doesn't reveal their whole plan beforehand like Marvel. Kinberg already said all three films acknowledge each other so what is the problem?

 

[Picard Stewart]

The script needs to be rewritten because Apocalypse was the villain

I really hope X-Force explores Cable's origin. I'd rather have a CABLE movie but I'll take it via X-Force if necessary. Just open that film with Cable in the very distant future and then cut to the present where he's with the team.

 

[def28]

You don't know the timelines of any of the films except Apocalypse. FOX doesn't reveal their whole plan beforehand like Marvel. Kinberg already said all three films acknowledge each other so what is the problem?

Your not understanding what I'm saying at all.

Fox announced plenty of upcoming films. Kinberg and the studio regardless of what they tell people, will actually have to know how everything fits together if they want it to go anywhere in the future. That's the whole point of having an expanded universe.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

I really hope X-Force explores Cable's origin. I'd rather have a CABLE movie but I'll take it via X-Force if necessary. Just open that film with Cable in the very distant future and then cut to the present where he's with the team.

I could see a hooded cable in a Egyptian desert looking at a pyramid in the post credit apocalypse movie

 

[Picard Stewart]

Your not understanding what I'm saying at all.

Fox announced plenty of upcoming films. Kinberg and the studio regardless of what they tell people, will actually have to know how everything fits together.

Kinberg is clearly playing Feige's role in the Fox Shared Universe. Originally they had brought in Millar but ended up going with Kinberg who was actually writing most of these films.

 

[def28]

Kinberg is clearly playing Feige's role in the Fox Shared Universe. Originally they had brought in Millar but ended up going with Kinberg who was actually writing most of these films.

I agree. Which is why I said...

Fox are not idiots, they will have more then one person orchestrating how to make this work along with Kinberg.

So what was the issue here, I'm confused

 

[Picard Stewart]

I could see a hooded cable in a Egyptian desert looking at a pyramid in the post credit apocalypse movie

That would be perfect. Just introduce Cable then have him star in X-Force with Reynolds the year after.

 

[x-er]

just one more (one more!) film with the original cast and then they can do anything they want.

it'll cost Fox but it will also generate their best revenue to date, if on par with Singer's work.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

just one more (one more!) film with the original cast and then they can do anything they want.

If you give a mouse a cookie he's gonna want some milk

 

[Picard Stewart]

just one more (one more!) film with the original cast and then they can do anything they want.

it'll cost Fox but it will also generate their best revenue to date, if on par with Singer's work.

Wolverine III seems to be that film. While DOFP was the closest we'll ever get to an X4, W3 features Jackman (in his last) and Stewart.

I'm dying to learn what the plot of that film will be given that Stewart's involvement means its set after 2023.

 

[magneto23]

Wolverine III seems to be that film. While DOFP was the closest we'll ever get to an X4, W3 features Jackman (in his last) and Stewart.

I'm dying to learn what the plot of that film will be given that Stewart's involvement means its set after 2023.

Yeah Wolverine 3 is gonna be their last call IMO. A young X-men team, young New Mutants, Deadpool, Gambit, X-Force sure to follow. Don't see how OT fits in at all moving forward.

 

[Picard Stewart]

Yeah Wolverine 3 is gonna be their last call IMO. A young X-men team, young New Mutants, Deadpool, Gambit, X-Force sure to follow. Don't see how OT fits in at all moving forward.

For me the only issue left to be resolved is how to bring in the Apocalypse cast into the crossover since they're back in the 80s and most of the other films in Phase II are set in present day.

FF, Deadpool, W3, FF2...all present day. Maybe the FF travel to a dimension where its the 90s, allowing the untitled 2018 X-Men film to do the usual ten year time leap forward as with DOFP & Apocalypse.

The trouble with that is that Deadpool would have to sit out the crossover.

 

[x-er]

Wolverine III seems to be that film. While DOFP was the closest we'll ever get to an X4, W3 features Jackman (in his last) and Stewart.

I'm dying to learn what the plot of that film will be given that Stewart's involvement means its set after 2023.

Me too!

The fans & the cast deserve a good closing, to make it feel like, yup, this was Singer's crew. They're done here and it's great. I'm satisfied.. Time to move on.

It would be awesome if they could tell something that could follow up on X2, so that fans can watch X1, X2 and X5 as a trilogy. A fan can dream.

 

[psylockolussus]

The OT cast would probably appear in The New Mutants unless it is set in the past again or the mentor for the new mutants is someone we haven't seen before.

just one more (one more!) film with the original cast and then they can do anything they want.

it'll cost Fox but it will also generate their best revenue to date, if on par with Singer's work.

They got their biggest box-office gross since X3, Fox would be silly not to bring them back. The main reason why we didn't get X4 and just got the spin-offs after X3 is because the cast is expensive but box-office wise, they will rank more money and that was proven true by their appearance in DOFP. Especially it seemed that people were interesting in seeing the cast who were in the future/present timeline.

 

[Flint Marko]

So in your eyes the blatant drop of quality from Avengers to AOU has nothing to do with "real studio meddling"? How about the drop of quality between Iron Man and IM2? That had nothing to do with studio meddling either?


I don't think Wright was laughing when he posted that. At least with him they didn't get a chance to meddle.

There was a time when Tom Rothman allowed films like the Tim Story FFs to get greenlit. That time is gone. Marvel Studios is CURRENTLY scaring away great directors and damaging their movies in the process.

Daredevil, Elektra, X3, Origins...old Fox regime.
TIH, IM2, THOR 2, AOU...current Marvel Studios regime.

The fact that you're bringing up those movies as examples of some of the worst in Marvel's filmography says everything I need to, those movies are all fresh on RT and were well received both critically and financially. What a failure! So disappointing! Say what you want about studio meddling, it's clearly working for them. Maybe if Fox had the same sort of mindset Trank would not have been able to ruin a rental house and potentially the film.

So I guess if this happens in August you'll go from a smile to a painful look of sadness t:


See, unlike you, a person actually hoping for a movie to fail, I hope for movies based on things I like to succeed. I went into AOU hoping for something great. I never wanted it to be something underwhelming and forgettable, which is what it ended up being.

Actually I hope for movies based on things I like to somewhat resemble the thing that I like. I'm pretty excited for Deadpoo and Apocalypse, so it has nothing to do with the Marvel/Fox pissing contest some around here insist on having.
All I've said, and will continue to say, is that the Fox shared universe ain't happening. That is not off-topic, or trolling, or anything problematic. The fact that someone with an opposing viewpoint is so unwelcome in these parts is astounding.

 

[marvelrobbins]

First class sits at 87% and DOFP sits at 91% fresh.The wolverine sits at 69% fresh higher than Thor:The dark World.

Kingsman has same RT score as AOU and both are just ahead of Iron Man 2,The Amazing
Spider-man,and Superman Returns.

You say we make you unwelcome here.You mean the way you and others drown out any postivty In FF threads that those who want to see it want to stay away from threads.

Josh Trank's last film Chronicle sits at 85% at RT and Simon Kinberg wrote one of 2 comic book films of 2014 that sit at 91% fresh.

Who says there won't be a shared universe i can remember claims that fox had no intention of casting FF,never had any intention of making film,wouldn't spend much money yet budget has reportly risen to 122 million,and they had no intention of promating it.Meanwhile the claim X-Men characters couldn't be used In Deadpool have also been disproven with Colossus,and morlock characters In film.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

All I've said, and will continue to say, is that the Fox shared universe ain't happening. That is not off-topic, or trolling, or anything problematic.

I thought you don't try to pass your opinion off as a fact. And you wonder why X-Fans don't like you.

Why do you even care if FOX has a shared universe? What satisfaction do you get coming here saying things nobody cares about. Your just messing up our thread.

 

[Zarex]

For me the only issue left to be resolved is how to bring in the Apocalypse cast into the crossover since they're back in the 80s and most of the other films in Phase II are set in present day.

FF, Deadpool, W3, FF2...all present day. Maybe the FF travel to a dimension where its the 90s, allowing the untitled 2018 X-Men film to do the usual ten year time leap forward as with DOFP & Apocalypse.

The trouble with that is that Deadpool would have to sit out the crossover.

Why are Daredevil, Elektra and the two Story FF films left out of what you are calling "Phase 1?

 

[psylockolussus]

Because those four films were not connected to the X-Men film series unlike these upcoming Fantastic Four films.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Even though i like the director's cut of daredevil it,elektra,and prior FF films are not part of shared universe.New FF is.

Just like the 2003 Hulk Is not part of MCU.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Why are Daredevil, Elektra and the two Story FF films left out of what you are calling "Phase 1?

Spoiler

Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers?