Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 1

[chamber-music]

Great. Now that this is sorted Fox can focus on getting Lea Seydoux as Belladonna.

 

[psylockolussus]

The question do you think she and Tatum have enough chemistry on-screen?

I don't even know what that means.

He came off pretty well showing Stan Lee respect enough to help him off the stage, and he's shown nothing but love for the character either.

I think right now Tatum looks kinda big... not to criticize his weight... but he needs to slim down for Gambit.

 

[henzINNIT]

Tatum has to be the only guy in history considered too muscular for his comic book role. Maybe he'll get a bit more lean for the shoot, but it's not that big a deal.

 

[x-er]

He's not fat though. He can lose the bulk though. Take christian bale as an extreme example...

 

[Mr. Youtube]

If he's going to be wearing that big trenchcoat, does it really matter? Not like your going to be able to really tell his muscles unless he takes it off, which I doubt he'll do because ironically, that trenchcoat doesn't go against the realistic take of X-Men. Even if he wear's Taylor Kitsch's uniform, I doubt it'll make a big difference.

 

[The Guard]

Glad this is handled. Gambit the new Wolverine.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If any X-Men is going to be the new Wolverine, Gambit probably has the best chance. He's that charming rogue character that audiences seem to love.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I am really looking forward to hearing more about this now, the plot and cast, etc.

 

[Majik1387]

Great. Now that this is sorted Fox can focus on getting Lea Seydoux as Belladonna.

Yes.
Only thing I'm curious about is how well she sounds speaking English.

Btw, if Lea doesn't get the role, I'm all for Melanie Laurent getting the role.

The question do you think she and Tatum have enough chemistry on-screen?

I think enough will be there, I mean it's not like the characters are made for each other the way Gambit and Rogue are.

If any X-Men is going to be the new Wolverine, Gambit probably has the best chance. He's that charming rogue character that audiences seem to love.

Yep.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't disagree. I was more responding to the idea that Tatum will have a Jackman like role in the X-men series. Gambit just doesn't have that role in the comics and I can't see it being in the movie. The idea of Gambit being a teacher at a school and following some headmaster's orders was ridiculous in the comics (it didn't work in Wolverine and the X-men and that's what his great solo was responding to). He's worked best recently solo and in All New X-Factor. He should have been on Madrox's X-Factor team. He's a solo character even when he's on a team, which is why I can't see him having a Wolverine-like role in the franchise.

But, like, does it matter? We don't even know what type of movie is being made so why are we judging the budget?

If whether or not a production needs a certain budget when it's more than capable of handling a much smaller budget it always does in the long run. Sure it's a risk that COULD pay off. But for a debut film for a character that's more known in a supporting capacity by merely relying on the star power of an actor doesn't seem that wise. Gambit is a thief in New Orleans. I have no idea what plans they have for him, but if a $150 million dollar budget is going towards something that doesn't fit with what a Gambit scaled movie justifies it's just a misstep. A smart studio knows how to spend on a movie. This just seems careless. Tatum might be a star, but not a make twice your $150 million budget back guaranteed star.

 

[Mr. Youtube]

If whether or not a production needs a certain budget when it's more than capable of handling a much smaller budget it always does in the long run. Sure it's a risk that COULD pay off. But for a debut film for a character that's more known in a supporting capacity by merely relying on the star power of an actor doesn't seem that wise. Gambit is a thief in New Orleans. I have no idea what plans they have for him, but if a $150 million dollar budget is going towards something that doesn't fit with what a Gambit scaled movie justifies it's just a misstep. A smart studio knows how to spend on a movie. This just seems careless. Tatum might be a star, but not a make twice your $150 million budget back guaranteed star.

Tatum does have appeal, so does from the studio that brought you "Days of Future Past" and the director of "Rise of the Planet of the Apes". Honestly, if San Andreas can make $461 million, if Mad Max can make $361 million, if freaking Taken 3 can make $325 million... no, if Dracula Untold can make $215 million, I'm sure that this film can make enough to justify a profit. Does it justify the film's price, no way and your all right about that 100% but not that it will not make back. No X-Men film has made less than $296 and some million, remember? If this film markets itself just right, it can easily make a profit.

 

[dontpanic42]

Great. Now that this is sorted Fox can focus on getting Lea Seydoux as Belladonna.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[psylockolussus]

Tatum has to be the only guy in history considered too muscular for his comic book role. Maybe he'll get a bit more lean for the shoot, but it's not that big a deal.

From what I saw from the Comic-Con picture... his body type is not even close to that Magic Mike picture. More like 22 Jump Street.

 

[chamber-music]

Yes.
Only thing I'm curious about is how well she sounds speaking English.

She speaks English very well.

Seydoux went to Summer Camps in Maryland for six years as a kid which is where she learned to speak English.

[YT]/Ek6J1rjFUeI[/YT]

 

[Sevprince]

Fox sees Tatum’s Gambit, a mutant who harnesses kinetic energy, as one of the anchor characters of the X-universe, akin to Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine, someone who would anchor his own movies and appear in numerous others. It’s a commitment that could theoretically last more than a decade. (Jackman has been portraying Wolverine since 2000, for instance.)


This was probably the sticking point. Perhaps Tatum felt like this was a little too much, at least right now.

Just as I was relieved that HJ was retiring, Fox wants another white dude to dominate and hug all the screen time, and to be the most important X-men ever. If they let Storm, Jean, Cyclopes and other X-men and especially X-women continue to be nothing but window dressing, I'm putting this franchise in the same black hole that I put the DC movies.

The X-men, an allegory for all the ism in the world mostly suffered by non white men continues to be all about white men and everyone else (mostly women and non white dudes continue to be throw away characters i.e Xmfc, dofp). Very ironic, sadly funny and true to real life.

I love the X-men and I loved XMFC but I'm not going to ignore this stuff anymore. I have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[javon]

One problem with that is there are too many instances that points out that Victor and Sabertooth are the same person. For starters:

-The way Sabertooth kept Wolverine's dog tags throughout X1. He recognized the name on those tags considering that he was secretly present for Wolverine's weapon X experiment and saw Stryker create those dog tags for Wolverine.

-The way Sabertooth dodged Cyclops's optic laser beams after he ambushed Wolverine and Rogue. Sabertooth recognized Cyclops from when he attacked him at his high school and saw what he could do which explains how Sabertooth knew when to jump out of the line of fire.

Lastly,
-The way Sabertooth is smitten with Storm. There's an extended version of the scene in Origins where Wolverine walks away from Victor after he quits Team X and Storm enters the scene. She's the little blond-haired black girl standing in front of Victor as they watch Wolverine walk away and in X1, we see Sabertooth be infatuated with Storm in a serial killer-type of way.

Just because Victor wasn't being called Sabertooth in Origins, it doesn't mean he's not Sabertooth just like how Venom in Spider-Man 3 wasn't called by that name in the movie even though he looks like Venom.

Was this on the dvd? Or is it on youtube?

 

[Majik1387]

She speaks English very well.

Seydoux went to Summer Camps in Maryland for six years as a kid which is where she learned to speak English.

[YT]/Ek6J1rjFUeI[/YT]

Awesome.

 

[Mad Ones]

Just as I was relieved that HJ was retiring, Fox wants another white dude to dominate and hug all the screen time, and to be the most important X-men ever. If they let Storm, Jean, Cyclopes and other X-men and especially X-women continue to be nothing but window dressing, I'm putting this franchise in the same black hole that I put the DC movies.

The X-men, an allegory for all the ism in the world mostly suffered by non white men continues to be all about white men and everyone else (mostly women and non white dudes continue to be throw away characters i.e Xmfc, dofp). Very ironic, sadly funny and true to real life.

I love the X-men and I loved XMFC but I'm not going to ignore this stuff anymore. I have to draw the line somewhere.

I totally understand your complaints. I don't want another white dude to replace Hugh Jackman as the focus of the franchise. I don't think any character should have that role again. But I think it's too early to be really concerned. I just can't see Gambit taking on that role. He's a loner who never really became a leader (unlike Wolverine). I can't see Tatum committing nearly as much as Jackman. And Gambit won't even be in the next X-men movie, we can't be sure that his movie will be successful, and who knows when he'll cross over.

Meanwhile the main X-movies have established Mystique's importance. Storm, Jean, and Cyclops are the next generation of important characters. There's still some hope! I especially have high expectations of Storm.

 

[Mr. Youtube]

Just as I was relieved that HJ was retiring, Fox wants another white dude to dominate and hug all the screen time, and to be the most important X-men ever. If they let Storm, Jean, Cyclopes and other X-men and especially X-women continue to be nothing but window dressing, I'm putting this franchise in the same black hole that I put the DC movies.

The X-men, an allegory for all the ism in the world mostly suffered by non white men continues to be all about white men and everyone else (mostly women and non white dudes continue to be throw away characters i.e Xmfc, dofp). Very ironic, sadly funny and true to real life.

I love the X-men and I loved XMFC but I'm not going to ignore this stuff anymore. I have to draw the line somewhere.

Look, as a black man, I don't get your words. Just because the main character of a franchise is white, doesn't mean that there isn't room for black. Sure, some people are saying that Storm, a minority character wasn't represented well in previous films but at least she was there. Hell, Oscar Isaac is Guatemalan, Storm is going to be in the next film. There is plenty of colour in the films and there has always been an idea of mutants don't fit. I completely agree that it is a white dominated franchise, but it could always be worse.

If they want to change something, why don't we turn a main X-Man black? Or would that piss off too many fanboys?

 

[x-er]

Fox's Johnny Storm is black (with a white sister).
Storm's on her fifth film and has had good reception.
Gambit's not your typical white man. He's Southern (Cajun) with French heritage.
All those blue mutants are a metaphor for non-white, non-mainstream.
A few Asian heroes now (Blink, Jubilee, Psylocke).

And I think what is missing is the Latino population. Some support for Hispanics!! Come on Fox!!!!

 

[jaymes_e06]

Fox's Johnny Storm is black (with a white sister).
Storm's on her fifth film and has had good reception.
Gambit's not your typical white man. He's Southern (Cajun) with French heritage.
All those blue mutants are a metaphor for non-white, non-mainstream.
A few Asian heroes now (Blink, Jubilee, Psylocke).

And I think what is missing is the Latino population. Some support for Hispanics!! Come on Fox!!!!

Calisto was cast as an actress with Dominican decent.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I fall on the side of nobody being the new Wolverine. Fox needs to build up the other X-Men more. Storm is a well known wildly popular character and yet her film version is just super duper meh.

 

[chamber-music]

I agree. I don't want one character dominating what is supposed to be a team. I think a good balance of characters who each get their moment to shine is what I would prefer.

Making the X-Men overly reliant on one character doesn't help the franchise in the long run.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't think Gambit could rival Wolverine's popularity but Channing Tatum has a large following and I think that will help Gambit the character to be more popular to the general audience.

 

[psylockolussus]

Calisto was cast as an actress with Dominican decent.

I think the actors hired to play Warpath and Sunspot were Hispanics.

And I think Oscar Isaac is Hispanic, he's half Guatemalan.