Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[psylockolussus]

Iron Man 2 is the biggest pile of **** that Marvel has ever released.

Nope, it is Thor: The Dark World.

 

[Dasher10]

Nope, it is Thor: The Dark World.

Agreed. I don't get the hate for Iron Man 2. Thor 2 on the other hand was pretty awful.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think both were poor films but I dislike Iron Man 2 more.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

I think both were poor films but I disliked Iron Man 2 more.

Both were indeed poor films but I've watched Iron Man 2 twice (it was part of a marathon I was having so couldn't help it) but I could just watch Thor 2 once and excused myself halfway through the second viewing. Of course, your opinion may differ. Iron Man 3 is not that great either but it's manageable.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Both are at the bottom of my list (along with The Incredible Hulk), but I tend to like TDW more than IM2. Maybe it's just that I saw it in theaters. But the spectacle seemed greater. Those vortex grenade things were cool. Iron Man 2 just seemed bogged down by certain scenes that derailed the whole plot and I can't recall many wow moments to make up for it.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I've enjoyed all MS films, saw them all in theatres*, but I gotta say I can't remember most of what happened in Iron Man 2. For that I gotta put IM2 on the bottom.

Together with Cap 1.

*I didn't see Cap 1 in theatres, and I think it's a chore to get thru. I really don't get all the hubbub with Hayley Atwell and her Agent Carter being the best love interest from the MS movies.

That said they improved that franchise tremendously with the Winter Soldier. I'm stoked to see what the Russo Bros will do with the Avengers franchise.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think Iron Man is pretty damn good so it goes without saying that the sequel being so inferior in my opinion was a blow. It took me a second viewing to realize how much I disliked the sequel. I know opinions differ but I thought the 3rd was mostly a return to form. I mean it has issues but I overall still find it to be a pretty good film.

Okay we are so far off topic so I'm going to drop this convo.

 

[scatterax]

IM2 is a prequel to avengers that retroactively became more enjoyable once the avengers 1 came out. thor 2 had is moments, and is enjoyable over all, but still a disappointment compared to the thor 1 and other marvel movies.

Iron man 3 was an epic set up in the 1st act, die hard meets home alone in the 2nd act, and batman and robin levels of ridiculous in the 3rd, which was not only terrible in and of itself, but narratively destroyed all the awesome of the first act. IM3 is marvel's true worst movie. with thor 2 next in line.

 

[Mr. Youtube]

I like Thor: The Dark World, it isn't the best Marvel movie, but personally I think it is kilometers ahead of Iron Man II but is about the same caliber movie as the first Captain America. Some Marvel movies are just fascinating, some are all right, popcorn flicks and then there's Iron Man II which is a level of stupidity on its own. I mean it, had Feige not made other great flicks, that movie had the potential to destroy the Iron Man franchise.

I would hope Gambit ends up like any MCU movie but Iron Man 2. So if it ends up like Iron Man 3, even just a reskin, I'm happy. Shane Black is a competent director and he'd do good with it. That said, Doug Liman would do better.

 

[starscream22]

Agreed. I don't get the hate for Iron Man 2. Thor 2 on the other hand was pretty awful.

Honestly neither of them were complete garbage but I could live w/o seeing either of them ever again. That being said, they're still better than 90% of Fox's Marvel films and performed better than most of them which is proof of how low the bar is over there. I doubt Tatum's Gambit will proof any differently.

 

[psylockolussus]

Oh dear. Bringing down the less prefered studio again to make the weaker films from the favorite studio look better. Typical.

 

[starscream22]

Oh dear. Bringing down the less prefered studio again to make the weaker films from the favorite studio look better. Typical.

Yeah, if only your fav. studio allowed that to be an option.

Perhaps Gambit will...No, never mind.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm praying the lord for SHANE BLACK. He's a great writer, as well, so he'd definitely be a great match to finetune whatever script they've got. He's got the right grit and tone to nail something such as 'Gambit'.

I think he'd be a fine choice to direct Gambit!

And I hope Rogue is in the movie even if its just a small cameo to establish that Gambit is also set in the future kinda like Deadpool.

 

[GuestStar2004]

And I hope Rogue is in the movie even if its just a small cameo to establish that Gambit is also set in the future kinda like Deadpool.

For them to feel the need to establish its setting with something like that is stupid, that's not likely the reason colossus is in deadpool

Anna has said on Twitter she isn't involved anyway

 

[Mr. Youtube]

Honestly neither of them were complete garbage but I could live w/o seeing either of them ever again. That being said, they're still better than 90% of Fox's Marvel films and performed better than most of them which is proof of how low the bar is over there. I doubt Tatum's Gambit will proof any differently.

Iron Man II is as bad as The Last Stand but personally, I think it's worse. Professionally, as bad. Personally, worse.

 

[Majik1387]

Anna has said on Twitter she isn't involved anyway

The same way Famke denied being involved in The Wolverine?

 

[GuestStar2004]

The same way Famke denie d being involved in The Wolverine?

Depends how you look at it I guess

 

[marvelrobbins]

Iron Man II is as bad as The Last Stand but personally, I think it's worse. Professionally, as bad. Personally, worse.

X-Men,X2,First class,and dofp all have higher RT scores than Iron man 2 and 3
so fox hater you quoted is being typical.If box office is only score then
star wars prequels are good,and reimaged star trek films are better than classic Star Trek.

I doudt many X-Men fans will defend last stand.that doesn't mean Iron man 2 and 3 are great films eather.first iron man is.i can live without it's sequels just like i can live without spider-man 3,last stand,and origins.

 

[Mr. Youtube]

X-Men,X2,First class,and dofp all have higher RT scores than Iron man 2 and 3
so fox hater you quoted is being typical.If box office is only score then
star wars prequels are good,and reimaged star trek films are better than classic Star Trek.

I doudt many X-Men fans will defend last stand.that doesn't mean Iron man 2 and 3 are great films eather.first iron man is.i can live without it's sequels just like i can live without spider-man 3,last stand,and origins.

I don't think he can really talk about Fox Marvel movies being **** in regards to the X-Men movies, unless it is Origins because even The Last Stand has its moments. What he was referring to was Daredevil, Elektra, Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer and Fant4astic.

1) Daredevil - Trash
2) Elektra - Trash
3) Fantastic Four - Trash
3) Rise of the Silver Surfer - Trash
4) Fant4astic - Mega Trash
5) X-Men Origins - Ultra Trash
6) The Wolverine - Great
7) X-Men - Great
8) X2 - Great
9) The Last Stand - Trash
10) First Class - Great
11) Days of Future Past - Great
12) Kingsman - Great
Upcoming
13) Apocalypse
14) Deadpool
15) Gambit
16) Wolverine 3
17) New Mutants

See, up until this day, it is fact that Fox has released 7/12 **** Marvel films which is 58.3 %. However, say their next five movies are great like I hope they will be. Then will have only released 7/17 **** Marvel films which is 41.1%. Look, when they say Fox has released more trash films, they are completely right. It looks like that'll change since most of their upcoming Marvel films look great and hopefully Gambit will end up that way too.

Marvel's issues with its films is which films "matter" because most of their films are good, bar Iron Man II, which as I've said is ultra trash.

 

[TeeKay]

I still can't belive Fox allowed Fan4stic to happen. Jesus Christ. They managed to produce the worst superhero movie since Catwoman. How do you screw up a franchise 3 times in a row though?

 

[Mr. Youtube]

I still can't belive Fox allowed Fan4stic to happen. Jesus Christ. They managed to produce the worst superhero movie since Catwoman. How do you screw up a franchise 3 times in a row though?

Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough, Die Another Day.

Drool all you want at the possibility of a Marvel Studios made Fantastic Four. You'll love it. I'll love it. We'll all love. It's up to debate whether they'll make a good X-Men film (in my opinion, not with their current strategy).

Just consider it though, those three Bond films and countless other trash ones could've been avoided if George Lazenby decided to return as James Bond.

Thankfully Spectre seems to be good.

Speaking of which, has anybody seen it? And the more I think about it, a Gambit movie should be like James Bond in some respects.

 

[See Cap Run]

On the topic of the average RT score of the 12 Marvel Studios films vs. 12 Fox Marvel films released since 2000, the average RT for Fox is 53.25% vs. 79.83 for Marvel Studios.

It's fine for one to have their own preferences but if we're discussing objectively which series of fims are better received (not even including box office results) then Marvel takes the cake.

 

[marvelrobbins]

FF films and elektra don't have squat to do with X-Men films.

The martian is doing good at box office and with critics despite having Kinberg
as producer.

X-Men,X2,and first class are all In the 80's and DOFP Is at 91% similar to
GOTG.

I don't care about about studio average.I care about indivual films.I know
crazy notion.Just like call me crazy but in X-Men section many people actully like X-Men films inless your talking about last stand and originst: and are excited for future films.

 

[starscream22]

X-Men,X2,First class,and dofp all have higher RT scores than Iron man 2 and 3
so fox hater you quoted is being typical.If box office is only score then
star wars prequels are good,and reimaged star trek films are better than classic Star Trek.

I doudt many X-Men fans will defend last stand.that doesn't mean Iron man 2 and 3 are great films eather.first iron man is.i can live without it's sequels just like i can live without spider-man 3,last stand,and origins.

So only 4 out of 12 Fox-Marvel films have higher RT scores than 2 of arguably the worse MCU films and yet you use the term "Fox hater" as if it's a bad thing or something to be ashamed of...?

What you call typical I simply call common sense, especially after the crap Fox flung at screens this past Summer. t:

It's not even like those IM sequel ratings are bad they're just panned by most Fans. They're all higher than any of Jackman's solo films which IMO is still crazy to this day! I mean shouldn't all X-men films be better than what used to be a B list Marvel character anyway....?

But since YOU brought up RT scores here are my early predictions for 2016!

Deadpool: 55%-65% (Yeah, you all love the trailers but critics won't be so loving)

X-men:Apoc: 65%-75% (Singer erased past plot holes only to make new ones)

Gambit: N/A (pushed back to 2017 or whenever)

You're welcome.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I don't think Marvel has released any POS, but they do have a number of disappointments.