Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - Part 21

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With all these new stills, the trailer has to be right around the corner. I'm guessing it'll show up this Sunday with the premiere of "Vinyl".
 
no idea if that is right after the jump or not... I highly doubt it. I expect the first time we see theon and sansa will be ep 2 or 3 with them just on the move or arriving to safety (or theon sending her to safety since the pics look like they say farewell)
 
Unlike the books the show does have quite a bit of time pass between seasons. In the novels I think the combined first three instalments and the War of the Five Kings happen over the course of perhaps 18 months or thereabouts. Whereas in the show they make references to a great amount of time having gone by. Sam has been on adventures with Jon for years, Stannis has relied upon Melisandre for years etc.

It's possible that this season takes place weeks, or even months after the last one ended.
 
Unlike the books the show does have quite a bit of time pass between seasons. In the novels I think the combined first three instalments and the War of the Five Kings happen over the course of perhaps 18 months or thereabouts. Whereas in the show they make references to a great amount of time having gone by. Sam has been on adventures with Jon for years, Stannis has relied upon Melisandre for years etc.

It's possible that this season takes place weeks, or even months after the last one ended.
if only for the Jon factor, I don't think that'll be the case this season
 
Unlike the books the show does have quite a bit of time pass between seasons. In the novels I think the combined first three instalments and the War of the Five Kings happen over the course of perhaps 18 months or thereabouts. Whereas in the show they make references to a great amount of time having gone by. Sam has been on adventures with Jon for years, Stannis has relied upon Melisandre for years etc.

It's possible that this season takes place weeks, or even months after the last one ended.
And then there's Gilly's baby, who was born in episode 304 but is still a baby.

The timeline on the show really can't be made much sense of, but based on some of the cliffhangers (in the North, especially) they kind of have to pick up some of those plots more or less immediately.
 
if only for the Jon factor, I don't think that'll be the case this season

And then there's Gilly's baby, who was born in episode 304 but is still a baby.

The timeline on the show really can't be made much sense of, but based on some of the cliffhangers (in the North, especially) they kind of have to pick up some of those plots more or less immediately.

There's always the ice cells, which is also theorised as being a factor for Jon's body in the books as well.
 
They're basically prison cells carved within the Wall itself that the Night's Watch use to punish prisoners. As they're essentially boxes of the coldest ice imaginable they'd preserve a body for a time.
 
They're basically prison cells carved within the Wall itself that the Night's Watch use to punish prisoners. As they're essentially boxes of the coldest ice imaginable they'd preserve a body for a time.
So why would they put Jon's dead body in there instead of burning it?
 
Long story short, there's a lot of foreshadowing in the books about them and about how unless they're regularly kept maintained they ice over and anyone or thing inside would be "entombed", which of course brings to mind Jesus of Nazareth/Messiah comparisons. There's a few other things like Ser Alliser makes threats to Jon a few times that he'd die in those cells, Maester Aemon saying how cold preserves, the legend of Arson Iceaxe being trapped inside the Wall, Jon mentioning in his internal monologues that he feels a pressure bearing down on him as he walks the tunnels in the Wall , comparing it to the gullet of an Ice Dragon. Daenerys sees a blue rose growing from a chink in a wall of ice. Just in general there is a lot of thematic build up to Jon being within the Wall, and the whole Ice element before Melisandre does her Fire thing.

Jon himself had two corpses put in the Ice Cells to test the Wights, but the thing was that they never rose from the dead. The Wall preserved them. So if Jon's body was put inside the Wall by someone loyal to him it would prevent Wightification and negate the need to destroy his body.
 
Unlike the books the show does have quite a bit of time pass between seasons. In the novels I think the combined first three instalments and the War of the Five Kings happen over the course of perhaps 18 months or thereabouts. Whereas in the show they make references to a great amount of time having gone by. Sam has been on adventures with Jon for years, Stannis has relied upon Melisandre for years etc.

It's possible that this season takes place weeks, or even months after the last one ended.
You can tell how much time has passed based on birthdays and such. I believe the first three seasons was 2 years worth of time, and you could tell by Sansa's age.
 
Long story short, there's a lot of foreshadowing in the books about them and about how unless they're regularly kept maintained they ice over and anyone or thing inside would be "entombed", which of course brings to mind Jesus of Nazareth/Messiah comparisons. There's a few other things like Ser Alliser makes threats to Jon a few times that he'd die in those cells, Maester Aemon saying how cold preserves, the legend of Arson Iceaxe being trapped inside the Wall, Jon mentioning in his internal monologues that he feels a pressure bearing down on him as he walks the tunnels in the Wall , comparing it to the gullet of an Ice Dragon. Daenerys sees a blue rose growing from a chink in a wall of ice. Just in general there is a lot of thematic build up to Jon being within the Wall, and the whole Ice element before Melisandre does her Fire thing.

Jon himself had two corpses put in the Ice Cells to test the Wights, but the thing was that they never rose from the dead. The Wall preserved them. So if Jon's body was put inside the Wall by someone loyal to him it would prevent Wightification and negate the need to destroy his body.
Jon is coming back to life early imo. They aren't going to waste time with burning him and who would hide his body? Mel will be there, and won't stay for an extended period of time with him dead. It will be quick and fast.

We also can't forget Arya being blind and what is happening with Dany. This season is going to pick up right where we left off.
 
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