Game of Thrones General (Non-Book Related) Discussion Thread - Part 1

[BrownEyedGirl]

I mean...what was he supposed to do exactly? He couldn’t arrest her and try her for crimes against humanity. She had what was tantamount to a nuclear weapon at her beck and call, not to mention an army of highly trained automations completely loyal to her. For all intents and purposes she’s untouchable. There’s no situation where she gets brought to justice, it had to be an assassination to end the threat as quickly as possible with the least amount of human life lost.

He could have killed Drogon. He was able to walk right up to that Dragon fully armed. As it went back to sleep, he could have driven long claw right through the top of his head. He had enough men to fight off the Dothraki and Unsullied once the big threat was removed. But, then again, he may have been just trying to avoid more bloodshed. He did the one thing his father couldn't, and at least he did it himself instead of relying on somebody else.

 

[Roose Bolton]

He could have killed Drogon. He was able to walk right up to that Dragon fully armed. As it went back to sleep, he could have driven long claw right through the top of his head. He had enough men to fight off the Dothraki and Unsullied once the big threat was removed. But, then again, he may have been just trying to avoid more bloodshed. He did the one thing his father couldn't, and at least he did it himself instead of relying on somebody else.

Despite what the show’s weird Euron plot would have you believe, Dragons aren’t really all that easy to kill. There’s a good chance Jon’s sword doesn’t pierce his skull.

 

[OutOfBoose]

It would make Dany even more unhinged. She would probably start eating babies.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Not kill her after embracing her. Maybe give her a chance to defend herself (sans dragon). It's just a ****ty way to kill someone.

I'm going to defend that scene as the intention was to catch her off guard and to not give her the chance to defend herself. Jon is looking at it as he can get close to her, an advantage others do not have. But to do so, she has to trust him. If he gives her a warning or a chance to defend herself, she summons a dragon and the realm is still in danger. Is this a trope? Sure is. Is it an awful way to kill someone? Sure is, but killing her with her guard down was sort of the point. Jon is not thinking about what his best for Dany at this point, he is thinking of what is best for the realm, and what is best for the realm from his POV is he succeeds in killing her.

Plus, this is Game of Thrones. This was hardly the most awful way to kill someone in this show, LOL!

 

[8ulk87]

Game Of Thrones' Ending Explained

 

[P Supreme]

and Tyrion saying Bran had the best story and survived past the wall WELL WHO DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING literally Meera Reed and she was no where to be found this season not even a mention that SHE HUNTED THE FOOD dragged him on a sled in the snow and she couldn't even be the one that wheeled him into that small council meeting it just gets worse the more I think about it

 

[ludovica]

Feeling like pointing out that there is no wrong or unfair way to kill a burner of babies: no matter how you kill such a monster, you are a hero to me.

 

[P Supreme]

assignation was the only way really but you Dany being a villain is still not registering to me at all yes I knolw what she did but the Dany from Season 1 - 8.5 would not do that so it's whatever
it's how they went so be it

this season will be the only season I don't own on blue ray

 

[InCali]

And you'll have more reading time in your nursing home!

I'll ask that they dig me up.

 

[InCali]

It would make Dany even more unhinged. She would probably start eating babies.

The other other white meat.

 

[Manasrepublic]

Euron was the only skilled Avenger to easily kill an evil dragon. Jon should have found a way to have Euron resurrected by Melisandre or another messenger of the Lord of Light. Then they team up ala Picard and Kirk to take down Drogon with harpoon and a good ol’ fisticuffs

Euron is quite the hero. He stabbed the Kingslayer and is a killer of Dragons!!

 

[Deck Rickard]

Regarding the way Jon killed Dany... I guess it was fine but I would have preferred something that didn’t make him come off like such a ****ing coward. Like, she comes at him with Drogon, and he realizes the only way to kill the dragon is to kill her. Or maybe he takes out a bunch of Unsullied (or at least Grey Worm) and then kills her. I don’t know. I hated how dull and anticlimactic it all was, and how Jon just comes off like a dolt the whole time. Like when Grey Worm is going to execute those prisoners; Jon tries to stop him at first, then says he’ll speak to the queen and just walks away and lets him do it anyway. **** I really hate what they did with Jon this season. This is the dude who took on an army of wights BY HIMSELF last season, and now he’s a little lapdog.

 

[ludovica]

Jon avoided more bloodshed that way, no reason either to risk failing the assassination by being more cavalier.

 

[ludovica]

I'll ask that they dig me up.

Ask the Night King.
Oh wait...

 

[InvisibleWoman]

Regarding the way Jon killed Dany... I guess it was fine but I would have preferred something that didn’t make him come off like such a ****ing coward. Like, she comes at him with Drogon, and he realizes the only way to kill the dragon is to kill her. Or maybe he takes out a bunch of Unsullied (or at least Grey Worm) and then kills her. I don’t know. I hated how dull and anticlimactic it all was, and how Jon just comes off like a dolt the whole time. Like when Grey Worm is going to execute those prisoners; Jon tries to stop him at first, then says he’ll speak to the queen and just walks away and lets him do it anyway. **** I really hate what they did with Jon this season. This is the dude who took on an army of wights BY HIMSELF last season, and now he’s a little lapdog.

To be fair I don't think it was cowardly... it was merciful. He loved her (apparently) and wanted her death to be as swift as possible. He killed her in the kindest way he could.

 

[Donner]

I'm more inclined to agree with the guy whose tweet I posted. It was cowardly. And it's just another way for the men in the show to come off as heroic.

The whole thing was poorly written so it's a moot point, given the lead up to her death.

 

[RoastBeast]

I mean...what was he supposed to do exactly? He couldn’t arrest her and try her for crimes against humanity. She had what was tantamount to a nuclear weapon at her beck and call, not to mention an army of highly trained automations completely loyal to her. For all intents and purposes she’s untouchable. There’s no situation where she gets brought to justice, it had to be an assassination to end the threat as quickly as possible with the least amount of human life lost.

How could he know that Drogon wasn't going to lose it after Mommy was murdered and literally destroy all of Westeros? Jon lucked out that he blamed the throne, and not the entire land in which everything went to hell for him.

 

[Brother Jack]

To be fair I don't think it was cowardly... it was merciful. He loved her (apparently) and wanted her death to be as swift as possible. He killed her in the kindest way he could.

That was more how I read it. And I don't think Jon had decided to actually do it until right up to the moment of. He tries to reason with Dany and sees that she's too far gone, too convinced that she's right (the same fatal flaw that Stannis and others have had). There's also a touch of lingering ambiguity afterwards about if he made the right choice.

 

[harlequinade]

Jason Momoa did instagram live of himself watching the finale and I cannot share because of colorful language but he was pissed off

 

[Siby]

Some things I didn't understand.

How was Tyrion able to so directly find Jamie? It's like he knew exactly where he was.
Why did the council listen to Tyrion and have him basically choose the next king?
Why didn't Drogon kill Jon after killing Dany?
Where did Drogon take Dany?
Why did Drogon melt the Iron Throne? It's not like it knew what its significance was. The dragons were never shown to have greater than animal level intelligence.
Does Jon going into the Windling's land suggest that he could become the next Night King in the far future? Hence, giving proof to history repeating itself.
Isn't West of Westeros the eastern part of the map since the world is round? I find it hard to believe that no one has circumnavigated the world given all the great civilizations of the past and present.

The shot of Dany with dragon wings behind her was beautiful.

 

[RoastBeast]

That was more how I read it. And I don't think Jon had decided to actually do it until right up to the moment of. He tries to reason with Dany and sees that she's too far gone, too convinced that she's right (the same fatal flaw that Stannis and others have had). There's also a touch of lingering ambiguity afterwards about if he made the right choice.

And he's too convinced that he's right, good thing he's back to the Night's(nothing to)Watch because he's kind of undateable at this point...

I'm with Tyrion, check back in 10 years, because this Bran thing could go all sorts of wrong and they could end up with the creepiest regime ever.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

assignation was the only way really but you Dany being a villain is still not registering to me at all yes I knolw what she did but the Dany from Season 1 - 8.5 would not do that so it's whatever

If you honestly believe this, you haven't been paying attention. Which is my biggest problem with a lot the criticism that's been thrown. People either haven't been paying attention or they think they're own headcanon is fact. Dany was ALWAYS going to burn King's Landing to the ground.

 

[RoastBeast]

I will never understand how Grey Worm walks in to find a pool of blood, Jon with an empty sheath, and no Queen or dragon... and Jon's not a meat pile in seconds.

 

[squeekness]

I will never understand how Grey Worm walks in to find a pool of blood, Jon with an empty sheath, and no Queen or dragon... and Jon's not a meat pile in seconds.

I was wondering this myself, unless maybe Grey Worm wanted a public execution?

 

[RoastBeast]

I was wondering this myself, unless maybe Grey Worm wanted a public execution?

It just doesn't seem GreyWormy, especially considering his current mood. Of course, there was no one left in the city to be the public at an execution, so if he did want that, you're right.