The Rise of Skywalker General Star Wars Episode IX News/Speculation Thread - Part 1

LMAO! Daisy’s comments regarding Rey’s origin/parentage is just further proof that Lucasfilm had no plan in place for the sequel trilogy which is why it’s just such a disjointed mess
 
Some directors are not meant for certain things & Rian Johnson is not meant for Star Wars. Just like I would say Christopher Nolan is not meant for Star Wars, You just dont do what Rian Johnson did in the middle of a trilogy. But hey the Disney trilogy merchandise are not selling so he got that part down based on the video linked by BatLobster. The comments Rian made alone about the merchandise stuff says how bad of a hire he was. Disney has gotta hate Rian Johnson lol
 
LMAO! Daisy’s comments regarding Rey’s origin/parentage is just further proof that Lucasfilm had no plan in place for the sequel trilogy which is why it’s just such a disjointed mess

It's even worse when you realize George Lucas had a plan - sold a plan - but then they told him to go **** himself and then he called them the 'white slavers' which considering Disney's current controversies with China has even more resonance today. And then Michael Arndt had a plan, but then they told him to go take a hike as well. And Trevorrow and Connelly too. And then Jack Thorne as well. Hollywood writing often goes through a lot of writers but I've rarely seen the outcome as incoherent as these movies to each other (and the old Lucas Saga) turned out.

Robert Iger (Disney CEO): “Early on, Kathy [Kennedy] brought J.J. and Michael Arndt up to Northern California to meet with George at his ranch and talk about their ideas for the film. George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations. The truth was, Kathy, J.J., Alan, and I had discussed the direction in which the saga should go, and we all agreed that it wasn’t what George had outlined. George knew we weren’t contractually bound to anything, but he thought that our buying the story treatments was a tacit promise that we’d follow them, and he was disappointed that his story was being discarded. I’d been so careful since our first conversation not to mislead him in any way, and I didn’t think I had now, but I could have handled it better. I should have prepared him for the meeting with J.J. and Michael and told him about our conversations, that we felt it was better to go in another direction. I could have talked through this with him and possibly avoided angering him by not surprising him. Now, in the first meeting with him about the future of Star Wars, George felt betrayed, and while this whole process would never have been easy for him, we’d gotten off to an unnecessarily rocky start.” (The Ride of a Lifetime: Lessons Learned from 15 Years as CEO of the Walt Disney Company – September 23, 2019 )

Mary Jo Markey (TFA editor): "We read that [Michael Arndt version of Star Wars Episode VII]. We read a long outline." (March 2020)
Maryann Brandon (TFA and TROS editor): "We read the outline [of the Michael Arndt version of Star Wars Episode VII]. No [the three movies weren't outlined at that point], just that one."
Mary Jo Markey: "I don't remember [Michael Arndt's version of Star Wars Episode VII] bearing a lot of resemblence [to the final version] to be honest." "Yeah [it was quite different]."
Maryann Brandon: "I think [Michael Arndt's version of Star Wars Episode VII] was quite different and I think [Arndt and Abrams/Kasdan] just saw it completely differently and also I don't know that their work styles were very different. I can't really speak to it 'cause I wasn't around those days. We weren't there. [We were both] doing something else [at the time]."

See also: George Lucas quotes
 
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It's pretty simple to me. The true person to look at if you're looking for someone to blame for what happened with the ST isn't JJ Abrams, it isn't Kathleen Kennedy, it isn't Rian Johnson.

It's Bob Iger. Fullstop.

Sure everyone had a role to play in how things turned, but the original sin to me is setting release dates before there were even scripts. Everything can be traced back to that. And whatever mixed feelings I have on TFA and JJ's storytelling-- he delivered exactly what Bob Iger wanted from that film.

That said, if JJ's original big idea as "Rey Kenobi", then I feel like even his middle chapter would've played out similarly in that he too probably would've exploited the bait and switch of the audience assuming she's a Skywalker and then going another way with it. Probably continuing to obfuscate her true identity until the last film, cause obviously- dude loves his mysteries. And there's nothing to say he may not have changed his mind on that anyway, cause he absolutely could've still made Rey a Kenobi in TROS if he wanted to.
 
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What a trash fire of a production TROS was
 
As someone who enjoyed The Force Awakens on its own terms rather than as a continuation of the original trilogy, while I'd take Rey Kenobi over Rey Nobody, it suffers from Obi-Wan having nothing to do with these films. It's like, in The Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker, someone says to Rey, "Hey you know that guy Luke Skywalker who trained you even though you were really awesome before you ever met him? Well, you're related to the guy who trained him." Uh, okay? What does her being related to Mr. Not Appearing In This Trilogy have to do with the story being told?

Execution aside, one thing I can say about Rey Palpatine is that he was actually in the trilogy and that it was part of their interaction. It's a better idea to me because it's less immediately obvious and it challenges Rey when Rey not being challenged enough is a common criticism. It should have been set up earlier, though, which is a product of them not knowing about it themselves until the third film. Plus I think the comedown of learning you're related to a maniacal tyrant works better if you're not previously thinking you're related to the galactic equivalent of methheads. If Rey thinks she's a Kenobi and then finds out she's a Palpatine...
 
Damn, a lot of this just makes me retroactively look back on the trilogy in a somewhat sour way, which is sad for me considering how hyped I was for each entry. I certainly won't be rewatching the sequel trilogy any time soon in the near future.
 
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I've made my peace with it. Probably because a large part of me knew from the beginning that TFA was driven by a cynical cash grab, once I knew that they had abandoned Lucas' ideas.

As someone who enjoyed The Force Awakens on its own terms rather than as a continuation of the original trilogy, while I'd take Rey Kenobi over Rey Nobody, it suffers from Obi-Wan having nothing to do with these films. It's like, in The Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker, someone says to Rey, "Hey you know that guy Luke Skywalker who trained you even though you were really awesome before you ever met him? Well, you're related to the guy who trained him." Uh, okay? What does her being related to Mr. Not Appearing In This Trilogy have to do with the story being told?

Execution aside, one thing I can say about Rey Palpatine is that he was actually in the trilogy and that it was part of their interaction. It's a better idea to me because it's less immediately obvious and it challenges Rey when Rey not being challenged enough is a common criticism. It should have been set up earlier, though, which is a product of them not knowing about it themselves until the third film. Plus I think the comedown of learning you're related to a maniacal tyrant works better if you're not previously thinking you're related to the galactic equivalent of methheads. If Rey thinks she's a Kenobi and then finds out she's a Palpatine...

Solid points. I largely agree. Overall I think Palpatine lineage works better as a way to wrap up the story and give Rey a difficult trial in the final film. Rey being a Kenobi almost makes too much sense to have any dramatic weight. Obi-Wan and Rey are both very much clearcut, good characters with a strong moral backbone. I don't really know where you go with it, other than some nice symmetry of the Skywalkers training a Kenobi and Kylo/Rey being a third generation Skywalker vs Kenobi battle.

Although if TLJ had set up the Kenobi thing, they'd probably still be accused of narrative zig-zagging and JJ would've been crucified by the Rey Kenobi lovers.

The thing I consistently find myself thinking is there was just no way to play the "Rey Who?" mystery box game without ultimately upsetting large chunks of the audience. It's why I really think in retrospect, it would've been best to just pick a lineage, reveal it midway through Episode 7, and just proceed to tell a story with those cards already on the table.
 
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What a trash fire of a production TROS was
More like the entire sequel trilogy, not just TROS

TFA on its own I still find enjoyable, even though what came after really made the movie drop in quality for me. Still though, TFA laid a lot of groundwork which if executed properly could have made the two films that followed much more cohesive and continued to expand on what TFA introduced

It was a mistake not using George’s story treatments for episodes 7 - 9. Even if there were things in those treatments that Iger, Kathleen, etc. weren’t too fond of, they could have just changed things around but kept the overall theme/essence of what George had written intact
 
More like the entire sequel trilogy, not just TROS

TFA on its own I still find enjoyable, even though what came after really made the movie drop in quality for me. Still though, TFA laid a lot of groundwork which if executed properly could have made the two films that followed much more cohesive and continued to expand on what TFA introduced

It was a mistake not using George’s story treatments for episodes 7 - 9. Even if there were things in those treatments that Iger, Kathleen, etc. weren’t too fond of, they could have just changed things around but kept the overall theme/essence of what George had written intact

Regardless of quality, we didn't hear things like they had no idea what they were doing DURING FILMING on TFA or TLJ. Yeah, there were no clear 3 movie outlines, but each movie had a script and a sense of what each movie wanted to do when they were filming. TROS, they didn't even know what was going on during filming! That is a trash fire. Sometimes you can write and make a movie people dislike. It happens. That doesn’t mean the production was a trash fire. Trash fires happen when you have no idea what you are making.
 
Some directors are not meant for certain things & Rian Johnson is not meant for Star Wars. Just like I would say Christopher Nolan is not meant for Star Wars, You just dont do what Rian Johnson did in the middle of a trilogy. But hey the Disney trilogy merchandise are not selling so he got that part down based on the video linked by BatLobster. The comments Rian made alone about the merchandise stuff says how bad of a hire he was. Disney has gotta hate Rian Johnson lol

I love Johnson's original stuff like Looper and Knives Out, but he and Star Wars was not a good fit. TLJ felt like a SW movie by someone who doesn't even like SW and wanted to deconstruct everything about it. And also came off like he was just deconstructing and subverting expectations for its own sake with nothing to replace them with.

Johnson's experimental deconstruction might have worked for a stand-alone film, but not for the middle chapter of a trilogy. And some of the blame for that has to fall on Kathleen Kennedy for leaving him on too long a leash.
 
All the money in the world they had to spend on this. They could have hired the best talent in every department. None of it would have mattered. Disney have been creatively bankrupt for years now, so in some sense them forgetting that good films start with plan in place is not that shocking.
 

Rian really was the only one that really had a clue narratively. He actually had a plan and knew where he wanted the trilogy to go and didn't put nostalgia and call backs ahead of narrarive. JJ and his mystery box horse **** and his inability to think beyond the OT seriously screwed this trilogy!:cmad:
 
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I think what this recent news does is put further to rest the myth that " They always had a plan, and that JJ and Rian saw eye to eye on Rey's parentage".

That issue was debated in SW fandom a few years ago.

At this point, I think SW fans have come to acknowledge that clearly, everyone was not on the same page.

These comments are just another example of how they weren't on the same page and didn't have an overall plan.
 
I love Johnson's original stuff like Looper and Knives Out, but he and Star Wars was not a good fit. TLJ felt like a SW movie by someone who doesn't even like SW and wanted to deconstruct everything about it. And also came off like he was just deconstructing and subverting expectations for its own sake with nothing to replace them with.

Johnson's experimental deconstruction might have worked for a stand-alone film, but not for the middle chapter of a trilogy. And some of the blame for that has to fall on Kathleen Kennedy for leaving him on too long a leash.


People say Rian was trying to deconstruct star wars, but by the end of TLJ Kylo's let the past die philosophy is shown to be folly, the Rebellion is reborn, the Jedi are returning, Rey chooses the Light, Finn chooses to live for the Rebellion instead of dying, Luke has become one with the Force at peace and a great example of a Jedi Master, and a slave is dreaming of being a Jedi...Rian starts the film in a place of hopelessness and plays with tropes but by the time the credits roll it doesnt get much more star warsy and it ends with a message of hope.
 
Some directors are not meant for certain things & Rian Johnson is not meant for Star Wars. Just like I would say Christopher Nolan is not meant for Star Wars, You just dont do what Rian Johnson did in the middle of a trilogy. But hey the Disney trilogy merchandise are not selling so he got that part down based on the video linked by BatLobster. The comments Rian made alone about the merchandise stuff says how bad of a hire he was. Disney has gotta hate Rian Johnson lol
I would disagree...

Johnson’s approach and vision is perfect in my opinion for a Star Wars film, or a series of Star Wars films, with his characters. As a director of actors and cinematographic eye behind a film, he’s unimpeachable, and as a writer, I trust him with his stuff...

...Though no, I don’t think he was made for a follow up to either Lucas's work or to a story that featured Rey, Finn, or Kylo after TFA.

When given someone else’s characters, he showed where, even as a great and usually analytical artist, he has certain weaknesses - he mislabeled the angsty white boy as sympathetic and deep without actually examining him, absolutely fumbled a female character who was supposed to be *both* heroic *and* assertively street smart (since those types don’t appear as much in film noir, where femme fatales and Ingenues tend to rule), and had no idea at all what to do with a heroic black guy with a past as an escaped slave soldier.

Give him his own familiar act heroes, or allow him to play with an have himself twist them, and he’s good.

But no, he’s an abysmal writer for the young characters Abrams introduced in every way.
As someone who enjoyed The Force Awakens on its own terms rather than as a continuation of the original trilogy, while I'd take Rey Kenobi over Rey Nobody, it suffers from Obi-Wan having nothing to do with these films. It's like, in The Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker, someone says to Rey, "Hey you know that guy Luke Skywalker who trained you even though you were really awesome before you ever met him? Well, you're related to the guy who trained him." Uh, okay? What does her being related to Mr. Not Appearing In This Trilogy have to do with the story being told?

Execution aside, one thing I can say about Rey Palpatine is that he was actually in the trilogy and that it was part of their interaction. It's a better idea to me because it's less immediately obvious and it challenges Rey when Rey not being challenged enough is a common criticism. It should have been set up earlier, though, which is a product of them not knowing about it themselves until the third film. Plus I think the comedown of learning you're related to a maniacal tyrant works better if you're not previously thinking you're related to the galactic equivalent of methheads. If Rey thinks she's a Kenobi and then finds out she's a Palpatine...
I would say that is an advantage Rey Palpatine... but also an inherent example of Rey Skywalker’s superiority as an idea - it gives her a connection to more characters in the story, and especially a better relationship to the main villain than some sickening and Finn erasing romance with Kylo.

But the big thing for me is this: whether it was Abrams, Johnson, Kennedy, or even if we go back and see Lucas did a “Kylo is the only Skywalker” idea...

...the end result was always screwing over the Skywalker story.

Better no new Skywalkers than have the only one be a Neo-Nazi again.
People say Rian was trying to deconstruct star wars, but by the end of TLJ Kylo's let the past die philosophy is shown to be folly, the Rebellion is reborn, the Jedi are returning, Rey chooses the Light, Finn chooses to live for the Rebellion instead of dying, Luke has become one with the Force at peace and a great example of a Jedi Master, and a slave is dreaming of being a Jedi...Rian starts the film in a place of hopelessness and plays with tropes but by the time the credits roll it doesnt get much more star warsy and it ends with a message of hope.
I wholeheartedly disagree with many of the plot points your praising being of value after TFA covered most of them in a deeper fashion...

...But if we can move past that debate, I do think it’s interesting to note that a lot of TLJ’s “strengths” for positive people are more in the ethereal “heart” - the themes, messages, the “spiritual” messages - and not nearly so much in the substantial “Practical” dramatic elements a continuing story usually depends on, which in contrast TFA was chock full of.

(Though for the record, I consider Finn’s story spitefully cynical at the end regardless simply because of the hypocrisy and blatant double standard his story is held to, and because I’m not going to forget TFA making him a better male lead than Luke or Kylo.)

For instance, I would argue the “hopeful” ending of TLJ arguably works against any future film, since it’s accompanied by the First Order being a far less intimidating threat than they were at the start, Kylo no longer seeming that dangerous a personal antagonist for Rey, no real “hook” of doubt or tribulation for Rey going into the next film (she even comes off as more likely to win at the end of TLJ than Luke was at the end of TFA), and a Galaxy that simply isn’t that dramatically invested in its own war.

Ending things with Broom Biy is far more of a denouement than a “Oh God, I have to see where this goes!” Which is what TFA had.

And stuff like that is why the film doesn’t just seem badly written to people who don’t by into Rey, Finn, or Kylo’s story, but also wasteful.

If you’re putting more weight on having the film “speak to the heart”, you can’t afford to miss it.

And TLJ, I think, didn’t hit nearly that much, which can leave it feeling like a better directed but still shallow Michael Bay movie - still successful to mainstream audiences who aren’t going to deep dive, but not enduring with them either, while the hard core base devours itself.
 
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I don't know about anyone else but I wasn't a big fan of how Rian constantly kept interrupting the flow of his story by inserting so many twist or unexpected turns.

Here's one big example.
  • Audiences are led to believe that Luke Skywalker finally left the island in order to join the resistance. Then as we see him confront Kylo, the impression given is that he'll sacrifice himself (via Obi-Wan style) in order to help the Resistance escape. It's later revealed that he's been mentally projecting himself from the island and was never in any real danger. However, the film ends with Luke suddenly passing away and becoming one with the force.

Overall, you feel like Rian is trying to set up something naturally only for him to throw in a narrative wrench at audiences. He thinks that he's being clever, when really it's quite the opposite.

I still can't believe that they decided that it would be a bright idea to have it revealed later in ROS that Snoke was one of my engineered clones created by Palpatine. I mean the dude's grand scheme requires Rey to strike him down. Yet, Snoke was legitimately trying to kill her in TLJ.
 
B....but, it’s okay that they were winging it, after all, the OT was done the same way!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So glad she wasn't a Kenobi. Rey Random, Rey Skywalker/Solo and Rey Palpatine<Skywalker are all vastly better options.
 
B....but, it’s okay that they were winging it, after all, the OT was done the same way!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, that's not an opinion that ought to be mocked like that.

In theory, it's not an inherently bad way to tell a story. *If* you have good, confident storytellers. You can point to many, many examples of serialized fiction and trilogies that were told very successfully in an improvisational manner, without everything mapped out in advance. There really isn't a right or wrong in that sense.

The key is, you still need enough time to properly develop the story, and confident storytellers. Which Disney did not give, and I'm not so sure that JJ is. Remember, TROS had a much shorter window from production to release than the others, which were already behind the curve in terms of the time they should've been given.

This has much less to do with simply them "winging it" and much more to do with a rushed production schedule AND winging it, IMO.

I don't know about anyone else but I wasn't a big fan of how Rian constantly kept interrupting the flow of his story by inserting so many twist or unexpected turns.

Here's one big example.
  • Audiences are led to believe that Luke Skywalker finally left the island in order to join the resistance. Then as we see him confront Kylo, the impression given is that he'll sacrifice himself (via Obi-Wan style) in order to help the Resistance escape. It's later revealed that he's been mentally projecting himself from the island and was never in any real danger. However, the film ends with Luke suddenly passing away and becoming one with the force.

Overall, you feel like Rian is trying to set up something naturally only for him to throw in a narrative wrench at audiences. He thinks that he's being clever, when really it's quite the opposite.

I still can't believe that they decided that it would be a bright idea to have it revealed later in ROS that Snoke was one of my engineered clones created by Palpatine. I mean the dude's grand scheme requires Rey to strike him down. Yet, Snoke was legitimately trying to kill her in TLJ.

For me the Luke thing worked on more levels than just being a "surprise". It worked from a character standpoint because by tricking him, Luke is denying Kylo the chance to kill him and further damn his own soul. Also, just from an artistic standpoint...you're not going to get that amazing visual of Luke marching out towards those AT-ATs by himself if he's there in the flesh. If he's physically there, they blow him away and game over. If he survives that, then he's essentially invincible and how is Kylo going to kill him? Furthermore the scene still works for me on repeat viewings when I know what's coming, so the 'twist' was just a fun aspect for opening night that added to the experience and made me cheer. Just my opinion.

Also love how Luke's final act embodies Yoda's "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."
 
The main difference between the OT and the ST was that there was one person who had a vision for the first three films.

GL created SW, and that point it was something new , without precedent. He made the rules.

He left the door open wide enough that he could adjust the story and make the new revelations work. He didn't throw the gauntlet down in such a way that he couldn't move forward without hurting the previous story.

Ultimately he was in the driver's seat, and GL had the final call. It was his baby.

JJ and Rian inherited SW .

The circumstances and context surrounding the development of the ST were different from when GL developed the OT.

Its different if you have two guys ,with conflicting visions who, in effect ,undermine each other to tell the story they want to tell. Yes, I know there are fans who don't see it that way . Fair enough.

That's not to say you have to have all three films layed out ahead of time.

But if you're going to do the story the way Lucasfilm wanted it done, you've got to make sure the filmmakers/writers are all on the same page with how to proceed.

If you want the filmmakers/writers to each have "creative freedom" , to tell the stories and do what they want to, you can't then complain when that "creative freedom" gives you a story you don't like by the following filmmaker.
 
B....but, it’s okay that they were winging it, after all, the OT was done the same way!!!!!!!!!!!
Darth Vader was meant to be just some random guy in a robot suit until George decided otherwise.

This wouldn't have been a problem, until they started retconning the decisions made in TLJ.
 
In theory, it's not an inherently bad way to tell a story. *If* you have good, confident storytellers. You can point to many, many examples of serialized fiction and trilogies that were told very successfully in an improvisational manner, without everything mapped out in advance. There really isn't a right or wrong in that sense.

The key is, you still need enough time to properly develop the story, and confident storytellers. Which Disney did not give, and I'm not so sure that JJ is. Remember, TROS had a much shorter window from production to release than the others, which were already behind the curve in terms of the time they should've been given.

This has much less to do with simply them "winging it" and much more to do with a rushed production schedule AND winging it, IMO.
Yes.

And example, beyond Lucas himself? Stan Lee and his run on Spider-Man circa the Death of the Stacies when the character exploded from the cult favorite he introduced to arguably the largest profile of any single Marvel character. He wasn’t planning everything out... but he was building on what he worked on himself.

I tend think that if Abrams+Kasdan OR Johnson alone had been made the guiding architects of the entire thing as “creative producers,” the ST would have been far stronger as whole, instead fo arguably three films of varying quality that arguably undermine each other.

...Though now that I’ve made the more neutral argument, I do want to say this...
This wouldn't have been a problem, until they started retconning the decisions made in TLJ.
TLJ wouldn’t have had a problem, if it hadn’t started retconning or undermining decisions made in TFA - like Boyega being the male lead, Rey having a spine and enough humanity to struggle with new powers and recognize Kylo as obvious scum, perspective that acknowledges that Kylo is obvious scum, Hux and the FO as at least functionally competent villains, and Poe as a supporting and matured character.

A lot of my lack of respect and general feeling of disgust at TLJ stems from how so many of its more neck-breaking twists on the TFA foundation are needlessly unsupported and not compensated for - all the stuff with the young characters could have been done with more ambition and intelligence, and at least wouldn’t have basically hollowed out the characters.

-Rey being drawn to Kylo doesn’t require making her dumb and borderline suicidal, or require putting her in an a suite relationship with Kylo; actual storytelling to explain why he seems sympathetic/useful could have been done while maintaining the spirited survivor aspect of her story.
- Promoting Kylo to male lead over Finn doesn’t require pretending that a Neo-Nazi school shooter is an inherently sympathetic concept, or giving Finn a boring and unambitious story.
- Poking fun at fascism’s stupidity can be done while retaining the fact they are a very real threat; Hux can still be deconstructed without requiring him to be made toothless and dumb to the extent the heroic faction has to be toothless and dumb in order to be threatened by him and the FO.
- Poe can be expanded and even used to deconstruct war film cliches without making him a moron or making his allied antagonist an idiot accidentally undermining her entire point for existing; nothing about writing his and Holdo’s conflict requires accidentally making her incompetent for the sake of dramatic surprise.

TLJ doesn’t just zig when TFA set up a zag, it simply does stupid things while doing it. It’s story requires an audience member to not value Rey’s survival skill too much, judge Kylo with any kind of real standards, be engaged with Finn from TFA, analyze the military plot on any level, or want something to bring them back storyline p-wise to the next film.
 
Saying over and over (and over and over and over) again that Kylo is a "neo-nazi school shooter" doesn't make it true (especially because we know he didn't set fire to the Jedi Temple. So wtf). And the implication of repeating that when Reylos exist and the Ben/Rey pairing is the most popular in the ST is disturbing to say the least. You really have a knack for making women feel ashamed for the content they consume.

I think you need to take a step back and evaluate what your words really mean. You're over-doing it with these essay posts about how sexist the ST is without realizing that you're judging those that ship two characters by repeatedly comparing one of them to a Nazi and those people are mostly women. It screams misogyny. Men fought against the Comics Code Authority because it was censorship and boys had to deal with society thinking that reading comics led to violence unless the stories were toned down and more acceptable. You're doing the same thing with your posts. By calling Kylo Ren a Neo Nazi school shooter, you're implying that women who ship him with Rey are abuse apologists and sexist. See the problem? Content creators shouldn't have to create "acceptable" male characters for women to fawn over. That's not how this works.

This is a long article, but it explains the problem of policing the content women consume, especially by those who claim to be left leaning and "woke."

 
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