Ghost Rider 2 - reboot with Dan Ketch?

[DoomRulz]

I cant see them doing Dan Ketch just yet, if we do get a sequel, i think they will want Cage back, he was the main draw of the first movie IMO.

At this point, I doubt there's even going to be a 2nd film

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I'd say bring back Cage and Sam Elliot but Eva, Fonda, and Mark Steven Johnston should not come back. And this should be rated R. Bring angels, demons, and archangels in this. Bring monsters. Anything that'll guarantee a better, worth-while showdown with the Rider than what we got in the first movie.

 

[DoomRulz]

I'd say bring back Cage and Sam Elliot but Eva, Fonda, and Mark Steven Johnston should not come back. And this should be rated R. Bring angels, demons, and archangels in this. Bring monsters. Anything that'll guarantee a better, worth-while showdown with the Rider than what we got in the first movie.

I say get rid of Nic Cage...he's too old to be Johnny Blaze and he isn't hard enuff either.

 

[Jick]

I say get rid of Nic Cage...he's too old to be Johnny Blaze and he isn't hard enuff either.

he may be old...but I think he's cool for that character.
Downey Jr and Norton are also a little old for that characters, but it doesn't mean it won't work.
I'd like to have Cage back. but just him. M.S. Johnson should stay miles away from this. his script and direction sucked.

 

[DoomRulz]

he may be old...but I think he's cool for that character.
Downey Jr and Norton are also a little old for that characters, but it doesn't mean it won't work.
I'd like to have Cage back. but just him. M.S. Johnson should stay miles away from this. his script and direction sucked.

Norton's skinney and DJR has the look. Nic Cage doesn't even have that.

 

[Jick]

Norton's skinney and DJR has the look. Nic Cage doesn't even have that.

I said keep him because I liked his interpretation.
but I don't know how the Blaze from the comic is, so I can't argue.

 

[DoomRulz]

I said keep him because I liked his interpretation.
but I don't know how the Blaze from the comic is, so I can't argue.

Well he's blonde, blue-eyed, and 20s-something years old. Use that.

 

[OctaviusINC]

Wow. I was thinking about a Ketch GR reboot yesterday morning and *BOOM* here's a thread for it lol.

But yeah I agree. As long as it's darker, more violent, no stupid one liners, no cage, and NO MSJ

 

[Jick]

Well he's blonde, blue-eyed, and 20s-something years old. Use that.

blonde?
blue-eyed?
20 years?

dang!
Cage at least resemble Blaze's personality?

 

[DoomRulz]

blonde?
blue-eyed?
20 years?

dang!
Cage at least resemble Blaze's personality?

Um, somewhat. He at least got the interactions between him and Lucifer right. Johnny certainly wasn't a joker that's for sure. Had he actually been interrogated by the police (which he was on several occasions) he wouldn't have been a smart-ass (that scene was still funny).

 

[The Man of Steel]

Keep Johnny Blaze, and continue on with Nic Cage

 

[tyler-durden]

Keep Blaze, Nic would return, but make the story darker and get a better director and way better villains, they crapped on Blackheart he could have been so badass, this whole movie could have been badass, it was decent.

 

[Jick]

Vengeance and Scarecrow would be kickazz

 

[tyler-durden]

I would like to see Vengeance, as long as they go all out, no B.S.

 

[X-Maniac]

It was a terrible movie. Horror for all the wrong reasons. Hellish for all the wrong reasons. I really don't think there is much chance of a sequel. They will dumb it down so kids can see it, it will never be proper dark horror. It's a comicbook whose combination of Western, horror and superhero didn't work on screen because it's three different genres. Blade managed to combine horror and superhero and just about got away with it, but notice that the TV series tanked.

Ghost Rider could have been better if handled by a horror/thriller director.

I hope they don't inflict another movie on us.

 

[tyler-durden]

what if they got a different director and became darker? what about then?

 

[X-Maniac]

what if they got a different director and became darker? what about then?

I'm not sure about Cage - he seemed old and a bit wooden - so I think it needs more than a change of director and a change of tone.

They need to forget making this a family movie or a kiddie movie. It needs to be edgy, mysterious...

I think this is a case for forgetting the feel of the comicbooks - the combo of Western, superhero and horror is too much to try to bring to a movie as they're three different genres. Pick one genre and go with it. I'd argue that horror is the main genre.

Ghost Rider can still have a sexy leatherbiker image, it can still have great visuals/FX, but it needs to focus on a more demonic, darker story told in a moodier, darker style.

But, after the first movie didn't create a positive buzz, a second movie is going to struggle to get people to see past the first effort.

 

[DoomRulz]

But, after the first movie didn't create a positive buzz, a second movie is going to struggle to get people to see past the first effort.

If AvP did it, I can guarantee you Ghost Rider can and will.

 

[Spade]

If they can make a profit, Fox will make a movie. Sony, however, could be different with its properties.

 

[tyler-durden]

I'm not sure about Cage - he seemed old and a bit wooden - so I think it needs more than a change of director and a change of tone.

They need to forget making this a family movie or a kiddie movie. It needs to be edgy, mysterious...

I think this is a case for forgetting the feel of the comicbooks - the combo of Western, superhero and horror is too much to try to bring to a movie as they're three different genres. Pick one genre and go with it. I'd argue that horror is the main genre.

Ghost Rider can still have a sexy leatherbiker image, it can still have great visuals/FX, but it needs to focus on a more demonic, darker story told in a moodier, darker style.

But, after the first movie didn't create a positive buzz, a second movie is going to struggle to get people to see past the first effort.

I see where your comin from and completely agree but I believe that Nic Cage can do a better job, he just needs to think younger, But I think he could pull off a better Johnny Blaze.

 

[protocida]

GHOST RIDER 2:

The life of Johnny Blaze changed. Now, he is Ghost Rider, a cursed avenger spirit that rides during the night on a hell-fired motorcycle.

Running from the rage of Mephistopoles and trying to protect the innocents, Ghost Rider becomes a target to all the underworld creatures searching for Mephistopoles reward.

Scarecrow, Darkness, Noble Kane.

The Ghost rider must fight all them to keep riding.

 

[DoomRulz]

Only trouble, none of those characters have anything to do with Johnny Blaze

 

[protocida]

Reserarch better.

 

[xisaacx]

A young ghost rider, nicholas cage was to damn old.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Ghost Rider should go for TV run. A Supernatural Superhero series.

Leave the movie spot for more sure-hit superheroes and the sequels.