Ghostbusters 3 - Part 1

[Maximus One]

**** Bill Murray. I respect his talent and accomplishments and THAT'S IT. Besides that, **** him. He's just like that dick weed Chevy Chase. Always ****ting on the people who try and help them revive their careers. I love Bill Murray too but he's a ****ing tool and doesn't give a **** about any of his fans or nothing. I have no respect for that, only his talent

 

[Bruce Malone]

Because he doesn't want to take part in this obvious cash grab with a crappy script by his account, he's an a-hole?

Maybe he respects his fans enough to not take part in this film which he obviously thinks will be crap and which all signs point to it being?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Because he doesn't want to take part in this obvious cash grab with a crappy script

Oh you mean like Garfield? Garfield 2?

Say what you will, but let's not pretend Murray is some paragon of acting who's above doing a **** movie for a paycheck.

I highly doubt his fans influence his decisions at all.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Yes, i knew that would be brought up. From what i understand with actors there is a huge difference between voice work and on camera work and not just the effort involved.

With voice work it's not your face out there on screen its your voice a big distinction.

As well did none of you consider as i mentioned, that part of reason murray is not doing this is due to how much he doesn't want to mess with the legacy of the first two films? He didn't like the script, he thought it was silly for these 60 year old out of shape guys to still be running around.

He rather people remember them as ghostbusters from their prime not as old men. Maybe something harrison ford maybe should have considered?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I don't really care. Was just pointing out the hypocrisy of not wanting to be involved in a 'blatant cash grab' when one has previously done so.

 

[Bruce Malone]

There are cash grabs and there cash grabs. Selling out the legacy of well respected and beloved films is a different thing than being paid to voice an animated cat.

I don't think murray turned G3 down just to be a *****e, i really think if it was a well written and well put together idea he would have done it. Him not doing it is probably a warning sign that it's not something that should be continued with even.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

"selling out the legacy"

You're being a little overdramatic here.

Regardless, it looks like they're going ahead with 3 so lamenting it's existence isn't going to accomplish much.

 

[Rocketman]

This is not related to Indiana Jones at all. Ghostbusters is silly and not to be taken seriously. Yes, Indy can be comical fun... but there's a difference.

Also, Bill Murray obviously doesn't think about his fans. He doesn't want to do Ghostbusters 3 because he's in "Oscar mode" now. He's gotta get that Oscar before he dies, so he wants to do these indie, low-key movies that are pretentious drivel, like all these pointless Wes Anderson movies. He grabs at the chance to be in a serious movie with Robert Duvall (Get Low), only nobody cares. Just like nobody cares about him playing Franklin D. Roosevelt.

I blame Wes Anderson. He started it, and then this whole "Hipster Bill Murray" thing continued with Lost in Translation and Broken Flowers, and it's only gotten more sad.

Bill, you came from Saturday Night Live. The Bill Murray we want was in Meatballs, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, and Caddyshack. You have every right to do your other artsy crap (by all means), but these movies created you, they created the fans you have.

There is absolutely no excuse for him not to be in Ghostbusters 3. And I'll put money on this: I bet the script for this movie will end up being phenomenal. It's been in development hell for 25 years. Literally dozens of scripts (hell, maybe hundreds) have been churned and cranked out, only to be rejected and dismissed. In recent years it's gotten closer than it ever has, and has been constantly reworked to please Murray. Trust me, Bill is going to reject the script no matter what... but if it's been constantly re-tooled to please him (going so far as to just give him one scene where he is now a ghost), I bet the script is damn good. You watch.

But having said that, I personally could care less if Murray shows up in this movie or not. He's shown what an ass he is, and now we (most of us) see it.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

This is not related to Indiana Jones at all. Ghostbusters is silly and not to be taken seriously. Yes, Indy can be comical fun... but there's a difference.

Also, Bill Murray obviously doesn't think about his fans. He doesn't want to do Ghostbusters 3 because he's in "Oscar mode" now. He's gotta get that Oscar before he dies, so he wants to do these indie, low-key movies that are pretentious drivel, like all these pointless Wes Anderson movies. He grabs at the chance to be in a serious movie with Robert Duvall (Get Low), only nobody cares. Just like nobody cares about him playing Franklin D. Roosevelt.

I blame Wes Anderson. He started it, and then this whole "Hipster Bill Murray" thing continued with Lost in Translation and Broken Flowers, and it's only gotten more sad.

Bill, you came from Saturday Night Live. The Bill Murray we want was in Meatballs, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, and Caddyshack. You have every right to do your other artsy crap (by all means), but these movies created you, they created the fans you have.

There is absolutely no excuse for him not to be in Ghostbusters 3. And I'll put money on this: I bet the script for this movie will end up being phenomenal. It's been in development hell for 25 years. Literally dozens of scripts (hell, maybe hundreds) have been churned and cranked out, only to be rejected and dismissed. In recent years it's gotten closer than it ever has, and has been constantly reworked to please Murray. Trust me, Bill is going to reject the script no matter what... but if it's been constantly re-tooled to please him (going so far as to just give him one scene where he is now a ghost), I bet the script is damn good. You watch.

But having said that, I personally could care less if Murray shows up in this movie or not. He's shown what an ass he is, and now we (most of us) see it.

Get out of my head.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I'm not even a big ghostbusters fan to be honest but i just got tired at all the sniping murray was taking for not participating. It's just that i get his reasoning for not wanting to be a part of it that's all and it doesn't involve wes anderson...

For some reason fans of franchises or films sometimes act like they "own" certain actors.

 

[Rocketman]

I'm not even a big ghostbusters fan to be honest but i just got tired at all the sniping murray was taking for not participating. It's just that i get his reasoning for not wanting to be a part of it that's all and it doesn't involve wes anderson...

For some reason fans of franchises or films sometimes act like they "own" certain actors.

You need to see The People vs. George Lucas. We don't own the actors, but we certainly own the franchises. Star Wars is completely out of Lucas' hands now, no matter how much he continues to ruin it every couple of years.

Let's be honest: "Hollywood (or insert popular name here) can do whatever they want, and they don't owe the fans a damn thing" isn't a good enough excuse for me anymore. If the fans were listened to most of the time, there wouldn't have been rumblings about a remake to Back to the Future a couple years ago, and it just goes on and on.

A potential Back to the Future remake
A potential Lethal Weapon remake
The RoboCop remake
Stars Wars Episodes I-III
Crystal Skull
Live Free or Die Hard
Batman and Robin
Spider-Man 3
X-Men 3: The Last Stand
Wolverine
Green Lantern

These are the things that prove how nobody really gives a **** about us. And I'm willing to bet that GB3 would not be in this category, simply because I think that the script might be fantastic.

There are rare exceptions to this, of course (Nolan comes to mind, and that new Dredd was pretty damn cool. Not to mention that Man of Steel has all the workings of something special); but at the end of the day, we're kind of alone.

 

[sueb1863]

I'm not concerned about Murray doing it or not, I just don't think the studio should bother with a GB3 if he isn't in it. And I agree that revisiting a character he did in 1984 probably isn't high on his list.

ETA: A remake of Back to the Future?? Blasphemy! Why remake a movie that was fine to begin with? Gad...

 

[Bruce Malone]

Yeah i know all about the lucas stuff but it's a different case with murray if anything he may be acting as the anti-lucas here.

From what i've been following of this project is that it really started getting traction when dan aykroyd started pushing for a 3rd film right around the time his career started faltering, coincidence?

Obviously the studio saw dollar signs in that but it wasn't natural. Murray gave his blessings to make the film he wasn't holding anyone back, it's just that the studio and dan really wanted him. However like i mentioned whatever they were showing him according to him pretty much sucked.

Just because something has been in development hell for so many years doesn't mean it'll come out good in the end. It's usually the opposite. Murray likely saw this whole situation as a poor script, an actor who doesn't get much work anymore pushing a project to get his career going again and a studio just looking to cash-in.

Out of that scenario i'm going with bill on it. I will be very surprised if the script for this comes out good in the end.

 

[Dr. Evil]

A Back to the Future remake isn't going to happen because the Two Bob's (Gale and Zemeckis) have said it won't happen.

 

[Soapy]

This is not related to Indiana Jones at all. Ghostbusters is silly and not to be taken seriously. Yes, Indy can be comical fun... but there's a difference.

Also, Bill Murray obviously doesn't think about his fans. He doesn't want to do Ghostbusters 3 because he's in "Oscar mode" now. He's gotta get that Oscar before he dies, so he wants to do these indie, low-key movies that are pretentious drivel, like all these pointless Wes Anderson movies. He grabs at the chance to be in a serious movie with Robert Duvall (Get Low), only nobody cares. Just like nobody cares about him playing Franklin D. Roosevelt.

I blame Wes Anderson. He started it, and then this whole "Hipster Bill Murray" thing continued with Lost in Translation and Broken Flowers, and it's only gotten more sad.

Bill, you came from Saturday Night Live. The Bill Murray we want was in Meatballs, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Groundhog Day, and Caddyshack. You have every right to do your other artsy crap (by all means), but these movies created you, they created the fans you have.

There is absolutely no excuse for him not to be in Ghostbusters 3. And I'll put money on this: I bet the script for this movie will end up being phenomenal. It's been in development hell for 25 years. Literally dozens of scripts (hell, maybe hundreds) have been churned and cranked out, only to be rejected and dismissed. In recent years it's gotten closer than it ever has, and has been constantly reworked to please Murray. Trust me, Bill is going to reject the script no matter what... but if it's been constantly re-tooled to please him (going so far as to just give him one scene where he is now a ghost), I bet the script is damn good. You watch.

But having said that, I personally could care less if Murray shows up in this movie or not. He's shown what an ass he is, and now we (most of us) see it.

Aaaand this post gets my eyeroll of the day:

Congratulations!

 

[sueb1863]

A Back to the Future remake isn't going to happen because the Two Bob's (Gale and Zemeckis) have said it won't happen.

Oh, good! Thanks for the info.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Aaaand this post gets my eyeroll of the day:

And this one gets mine. Thanks for making it easy.

 

[Rocketman]

Aaaand this post gets my eyeroll of the day:

Congratulations!

Hey, if reality makes you roll your eyes, by all means.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Aaaand this post gets my eyeroll of the day:

Congratulations!

Thank you.

You need to see The People vs. George Lucas. We don't own the actors, but we certainly own the franchises. Star Wars is completely out of Lucas' hands now, no matter how much he continues to ruin it every couple of years.

Let's be honest: "Hollywood (or insert popular name here) can do whatever they want, and they don't owe the fans a damn thing" isn't a good enough excuse for me anymore. If the fans were listened to most of the time, there wouldn't have been rumblings about a remake to Back to the Future a couple years ago, and it just goes on and on.

A potential Back to the Future remake
A potential Lethal Weapon remake
The RoboCop remake
Stars Wars Episodes I-III
Crystal Skull
Live Free or Die Hard
Batman and Robin
Spider-Man 3
X-Men 3: The Last Stand
Wolverine
Green Lantern

These are the things that prove how nobody really gives a **** about us. And I'm willing to bet that GB3 would not be in this category, simply because I think that the script might be fantastic.

There are rare exceptions to this, of course (Nolan comes to mind, and that new Dredd was pretty damn cool. Not to mention that Man of Steel has all the workings of something special); but at the end of the day, we're kind of alone.

Because in my own reality, I actually love and enjoy some of those films. But I guess I'm delusional and can't see the actual reality.

Dude, it's like whatever. There's no point complaining because it's not gonna help go away.

This is kind of like the textbook internet post to me.

Slam on George Lucas? Check.
Slam on Hollywood and how they're out of ideas? Check.
Complaining about something that won't make a difference? Check.
Mentioning how Nolan is one of, if not the only good thing in the industry right now. Checkity check check.

It's been a while since I've seen a straight up classic one here, but damn, this just reminds me why posts like this on the internet makes no damn difference in the end. These movies will still get made, and our cries of help won't be heard, and life will still go on. The studios and the people who make them don't revolve around the internet and the forums of people complaining about them.

 

[Rocketman]

Thank you.



Because in my own reality, I actually love and enjoy some of those films. But I guess I'm delusional and can't see the actual reality.

Dude, it's like whatever. There's no point complaining because it's not gonna help go away.

This is kind of like the textbook internet post to me.

Slam on George Lucas? Check.
Slam on Hollywood and how they're out of ideas? Check.
Complaining about something that won't make a difference? Check.
Mentioning how Nolan is one of, if not the only good thing in the industry right now. Checkity check check.

It's been a while since I've seen a straight up classic one here, but damn, this just reminds me why posts like this on the internet makes no damn difference in the end. These movies will still get made, and our cries of help won't be heard, and life will still go on. The studios and the people who make them don't revolve around the internet and the forums of people complaining about them.

... Maybe because it's all true?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Hmm... maybe others have a different opinion than yours? Oh, wait, on the internet, it makes things look like things are more true and a bigger deal than what they really are. The internet and people's opinions on movies represents a minority of the rest of the world. It just looks bigger because it's more collected.

1. I love George Lucas. I like how when some or a lot disagree with one person's opinion, constantly love to waste their breath *****ing about him. While we waste our breaths criticizing him, he makes a lot more money than most likely any of us will make in our lifetimes. He has changed the entire industry through today. More than what people give him credit for. And I respect him immensely for not budging on his opinions. He has accomplished more in one lifetime than any of us here. He is a true risk taker if I ever saw one. If you don't like what he does now, stop complaining about it. Just ignore it. Because those SW Blu Ray sales around the world are making him more money while breath is wasted here complaining about something that has no signs of slowing down and absorbing new generations of audiences. Just accept it and move on and watch your favorite films.

2. Hollywood goes by money and what makes it. This has pretty much been the nature for most of Hollywood history. These are big studios that spend millions on movies and can't risk to lose it. They go with what the people spend money on and what they think will make money so they stay afloat. This is business basics. Because how dare businesses make money right? This is reality that you hopefully speak of.

3. Nolan is just one of them. He is in a fortunate position to be handed lots of money and makes those films work. This is great. There are filmmakers who are equally, if not more talented than him out there who aren't as fortunate, we just haven't seen or heard of them yet. And some of them are there.

Wes Anderson being one of them, whose movies you dismiss as "artsy crap" or "pretentious." Those movies I really enjoy and are good films. If Bill Murray doesn't want to do this in favor of films he enjoys making, let him. You may prefer the old school Murray but I love both. I like how he doesn't pigeonholed himself into his post SNL days and has broadened himself. If anything, he is smart for adapting to movies of the past ten years because his career is still going strong. Unlike Dan Akroyd.

You are basing your opinions on things that haven't even taken form yet or may not even be true. You don't know Bill Murray whose intentions are unclear to us but to him and you don't know if the script for GB3 is gonna be good. You're contradicting yourself in the subjectivity of people's possible views and movies with your own beliefs which you believe to be true.

 

[Thundarr]

I never really watched the Saturday Morning animated Ghostbusters series, but it seems to me the best way of doing Ghostbusters 3 without Bill Murrey would be to loosely base it on the cartoon about the new recruits. I vaguely recall there being a guy in a wheelchair, a girl, a guy in glasses, and I may be confusing my cartoons but I think there was a gorilla too (but I might be thinking of that other Ghostbusters show about the 2 guys and a gorilla in a jalopey chasing ghosts).

Anyway, bring back Ray, Egon, Winston, Louis, and their secretary. Peter is either dead or retired. Everyone else is feeling that they're just getting too old to hunt ghosts anymore. So they hire and train some new recruits. Then for the rest of the movie, the original cast is just there in a supportive role. Maybe for the final battle, they dust off their original model proton packs, strap them on, and lend a helping hand to the new recruits (who are using the newest updated models).

That's how I would write the script anyway. The beginning would be the guys still chasing ghosts, but because they're so old and out of shape it's much harder than it used to be. They finally clue in that ghostbusting is a young man's game, so they start a training program. Enter the new recruits. Hijinx ensue during their training, not unlike the Police Academy movies. They're taken on a few cases and seem to do pretty well. By the second act the original cast members are all doing management duties while the new recruits do all the ghostbusting. By the beginning of the third act, the big bad of the movie has been revealed. Ghostbusters new and old must join together to take him down. There's a climactic battle, the Ghostbusters win, and they're hailed as heroes like in the first two movies.

The new recruits should have one of each of the following:

A Jock: He's the team's badass, who tackles problems head on. He can also be the team's womanizer, chasing anything in a skirt.

A Computer Geek: This is the team's new Egon. He develops newer and more updated equipment for the team to use, such as slightly smaller and lighter proton packs.

A Goth Chick: Pretty much for the sex appeal. Plus, she's a firm believer in the supernatural. Where the geek is a technological wiz, she's a wealth of knowledge on spirits, demons, and the like.

The Psychic: He's able to track ghosts even without Egon's fancy equipment.

I might even make it that one of the new recruits is Oscar (Dana's son from Part 2). He'd be about 25 or so by now. The perfect age to start a new career as a Ghostbuster.

 

[ShredderX]

Hey, I say just do a live action movie based on " The Real Ghostbusters " cartoon, with Robert Downy Jr. as RGB Venkman, Patton Oswalt as RGB Stanz, Paul Rudd ( with his hair dyed platinum blond ) as RGB Spengler, and Will Smith as RGB Zeddemore, with cameos of Akroyd, Ramis, and Hudson.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

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Edit: actual reply starts at 0:07

 

[bullets]

I never really watched the Saturday Morning animated Ghostbusters series, but it seems to me the best way of doing Ghostbusters 3 without Bill Murrey would be to loosely base it on the cartoon about the new recruits. I vaguely recall there being a guy in a wheelchair, a girl, a guy in glasses, and I may be confusing my cartoons but I think there was a gorilla too (but I might be thinking of that other Ghostbusters show about the 2 guys and a gorilla in a jalopey chasing ghosts).
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I think it was called Xtreme Ghostbusters. That's come up a few times but I did enjoy that cartoon. The gorilla must of been part of something else though.