Glee Episode V: The Sylvester Strikes Back - - - - - Part 14

[Schlosser85]

I enjoyed Whoopi laying it down on Rachel. Rachel's being arrogant and naive.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I both want and don't want Rachel's arrogance to blow up in her face.

 

[SpideyFan866]

http://tvline.com/2014/04/08/shirley-maclaine-glee-season-5-blaine-cast/

Oh Shirley... you're too good for the show at this stage of the game.

If this means that Blaine is getting his NY Makeover, and retiring the hair gel and bow ties............. then I'm in.



Let's do this.

 

[Primal Slayer]

On a different note, Naya and Big Sean are dunzo. He apparently cheated on her.

 

[Prison Mike]

The Burt and Kurt scene was the best part of the episode.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Arent they always? I was really expecting Burt to say something about them just losing Finn so why would Kurt do what he did. They should really start incorporating Carole into these scenes, she and Kurt have not bonded like I thought they would back in S2.

 

[Schlosser85]

Kurt and Burt scenes are generally the best parts of whatever episode they're in.

And yea Kurt bonding with his stepmother could have been an interesting storyline, which of course Glee has completely ignored.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Kurt looks down an alley and from about 50 yards away in the dark he knows that it's a gay bashing, because everyone knows that someone getting beat up in an alley in New York City is a rarity unless the person is gay.........

They didn't give that important subject the treatment it deserved as I figured they wouldn't, it was just Murphy using his avatar Kurt as a hero again.

The Sam and Mercedes stuff was awful, her friends didn't want her to date him because he's white and not because he's a doofus without two brain cells to rub together?....at least this week. Still, Mercedes got two good numbers out of it.

I did like Sam's line about it being difficult for a straight white guy that Murphy put out there just so it could be eye rolled at, even if there is some truth to explore there.

On a different note, Naya and Big Sean are dunzo. He apparently cheated on her.

She was too good for him anyway.

 

[Schlosser85]

It's really sad how they trashed Sam's character from a sweet sincere guy into a complete doofus.

 

[Schlosser85]

- Rachel and Blaine were idiots for doing a duet, but their number was the only song this episode that wasn't a snooze fest.

- Samcedes has no chemistry and ate up way too much boring screen time.

- I expected the gay bashing subplot to be a bigger part of the episode. It felt like a halfhearted obligatory "let's toss in another social issue", and the line about the gay kid waking up (he was supposed to die originally, and Darren's throwaway line about him waking up was dubbed in later) took away any potential weight it could have had. Frankly the whole thing felt kind of perfunctory and disingenuous, and I didn't feel like Murphy actually cared about the subject.

Rachel was an idiot with Carmen.

 

[Schlosser85]

And how many times have we seen Rachel's head swell like a balloon, she and Kurt butt heads, and then a teary Hummelberry makeup hug?

 

[Schlosser85]

Where the hell does Blaine live? He supposedly moved in with Sam and Mercedes last episode, but any time we see their apartment Samcedes are the only people there. The only times we see Blaine he's at the loft or NYADA. Did the writers already forget he doesn't live with Kurt anymore LAST EPISODE?!

 

[flash13]

Samcedes are the only characters who have any chemistry left on that show as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It is kind of funny and sad that Santana is a supporting character in Mercedes storyline when Mercedes isnt even a full time character.

Oh look Rachels nightmare, when all the characters were in their prime

 

[Sawyer]

Tina was ever in her prime?

Excuse me while I

 

[SpideyFan866]

That just reminded me that Tina is, by far, the worst Glee character.




And always has been.

 

[Schlosser85]

Seeing Warbler Blaine makes me realize how much I miss Warbler Blaine. I feel like he's McKinley Blaine's big brother who's embarrassed by half the crap he does.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Tina was ever in her prime?

Excuse me while I

Considering she wasn't as much of a hot mess I would say she was since she just sat thew giving faces.

 

[Sawyer]

Considering she wasn't as much of a hot mess I would say she was since she just sat thew giving faces.

Eh, well... at least Jenna's got something good going for her outside this damn show.

 

[Primal Slayer]

now I would give him a vaper rub down

 

[Sawyer]

I searched for "Web Therapy" on Tumblr and literally 95% of what came up were gifs on Darren Criss' appearance on that show. And friggin' Meryl Streep got, like, one.

I'm not sure whether I admire his fanbase or despise it with every fiber of my being.

 

[Schlosser85]

I actually liked Sam better this episode. He felt like he went a little back toward being the awkwardly charming guy he was introduced as instead of a male Brittany.

 

[Schlosser85]

This episode was weird. It had a weird pace and everything felt half-baked and rushed. One second Mercedes is all DENIED and the next she's all over Sam. Rachel's plot with Carmen Tibideaux and NYADA felt really rushed and like something we should have built up to for a couple episodes or at least more scenes in this one, and the whole gay-bashing thing felt like Murphy just shoehorning a "social issue" in because of his continuing obsession with having Glee touch on every social issue in the world.

 

[Primal Slayer]

New pointless interview from the devils advocate himself.

Ryan Murphy not only has a firm grasp of exactly how Glee will end, he also knows which two characters will be in the “powerful and moving” final scene.

That was but one of the revealing takeaways from an intimate, Glee-centric Q&A the show’s exec producer conducted with a few select outlets (TVLine included) on Monday. In addition to previewing this season’s five remaining Big Apple-set episodes (including this week’s highly enjoyable outing, “Tested”), Murphy opened up about the big idea he and co-creators Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan are cooking up for Season 6′s 24-episode farewell, which cast members will be invited to participate, and whether we have seen the last of McKinley High.

Murphy also spoke candidly about the “painful” internal conversations surrounding Rachel’s romantic future — a topic that’s touched on in tonight’s episode.

TVLINE | Can you talk about the decision to end the high school part of the show?
I’ve spoken about it before, but the big plan of what the series was going to be and how it was going to end was radically changed when Cory [Monteith] passed away. Finn was going to sort of take over the glee club and Rachel was going to be off having her New York adventures. When Cory passed away, part of the story as we had imagined it didn’t make sense anymore, really. It felt sad, to be quite honest. We collectively – Brad, Ian and myself — made a decision that the freshest thing to do was a complete, clean start. We accelerated all those New York stories, and I think that was the right choice. I think that gave the show a burst of new energy. It feels like a new show to me in that it’s much more young-adult than it’s ever been.

TVLINE | What happens to the new kids we met at McKinley [like Marley, Kitty, Unique, etc.]?
At some point before the show is concluded, we will definitely catch up with those characters again. We really loved all of those actors, and they did a great service to the show. So I think at some point, before we’re done, we’ll see many of them again and find out where they are and check in with them and see how being a part of that glee club legacy affected their lives, as we do with our original characters.

TVLINE | How do these remaining Season 5 episodes lead into the final season? And do you know who will be a part of Season 6?
Brad and Ian have done such a good job of working on these stories, particularly the New York stories in the past six episodes, from 14 through 20. What we’re sort of zooming in on is what’s going to happen with Rachel’s Funny Girl debut. Is it going to be a huge success? Is it going to be a flop? And if it is any of those things, where will it turn her? Will it make her want to stay and do more New York shows? Will she want to do something else? That’s the main thrust of this New York run. … Because we have fewer characters now, we have more time to tell [other couples'] stories. For example, you’ve seen a lot more of the Kurt and Blaine relationship, and we’re heading towards what’s going to happen to them. They pretty much have had trouble every episode. We’re also going to be dealing with the Sam and Mercedes relationship. All of these things are building to a head in [the finale]. I would say “explosion” is too harsh of a word, but something big happens, and the final season is the aftermath of that.

TVLINE | Are these New York episodes a preview of what the final season will look like?
They’re really not. The final season is its own story in its own location. The final season is not New York-centric at all. It really is a lovely, fitting season that dwells on the original people on the show and what happens to them and how they give back. That really is the last season. We’ll revisit some of the new kids that came and went, there’s a return of the [Sue] and [Will] in a big way. It’s a really interesting, very sweet, satisfying ending to the story.

TVLINE | Is the plan still for the final season to have 22 or 24 episodes?
This year we did 20 episodes, and the reason we did 20 was because we had a three-week delay because of Cory’s passing. There was no way to physically produce those episodes and get them on the air in the month of May. That’s why the order was sort of truncated. So now, what we’re left with is basically 24 episodes. And I can’t speak for other people, but for me, doing a straight run-through of 24 episodes just doesn’t seem to be viable. It doesn’t feel right, so we’re looking at how do we take those 24 ± do we divide them? The main thrust of them will be a final farewell to all of our characters that we’ve known since Season 1.

TVLINE | Do you have an idea for a new final scene of the series?
Yes, we do have a final idea that we’re working on that I think is very powerful and moving. It’s about Rachel and Mr. Schue, and it returns them to their origins, their roots, how they felt about each other when they were much younger and everything was idyllic. I think the ending has to be a reflection and a celebration of how far all those characters have come.

TVLINE | Will there be a time jump between seasons? And which cast members will be back for the final season?
We are going to do a time jump. And my feeling about the last season of Glee is very clear, and that is that we have, or we will be, reaching out to all the regulars on the show — the original group of glee club members and teachers, and anyone who wants to come back. Anyone who wants to be a part of the show, we welcome them. I know people are saying, “Well, why isn’t Heather [Morris] on the show now?” and things like that. The answer for some of these things is, Heather is a new mother. She has a young baby. She came and did four episodes and really loved it. I think she would be willing to come back and do a couple more, but right now, Heather wants to focus on being a mom. The fun thing about the ending of the show is that there’s room for everybody to come back and be a part of it, and I hope they all want to. I think they do. When we just had our big 100th episode celebration, I spoke to many of them, and everybody in the cast seems to look back on the show with such fondness and nostalgia. I think everybody wants to come back and end that story correctly, so that’s our answer. Anybody who wants to be a part of that ending, we’d love to have you.

TVLINE | Are we going to see McKinley again?
You might see it again in some very nostalgic way, yes, but I don’t want to talk about the location [of Season 6] just yet.

TVLINE | In this week’s episode, there’s a nice scene where Rachel tells Mercedes that she isn’t quite ready for a new romance. When is it OK for Rachel to start dating again?
We talk about this in the writers’ room all the time. That’s a really hard, very painful, very difficult thing for the show. I’ve said it before, and it was even in Cory’s eulogy, but that was the ending of the show for me, these two star-crossed lovers having a happy ending and both getting their dreams. So the fact that that can’t be is a big pain in all of our hearts. We have to pause and think, “What are we going to do with Rachel?” This year what we decided to do was to remove the equation of anybody coming in and taking Finn’s place, because I don’t really think that’s possible. And I think that worked out quite well. I really liked dwelling on Rachel’s career again. She’s going to be a star. But as for the future, it’s a lot of discussion, and it’s something that we’ll consult with Lea about. To be quite honest, we just haven’t been able to crack it, because I feel like it’s such a sensitive topic and the fans have such an idea about it. I think half of them feel like, yes, Rachel should go on, and I think half of them probably feel like no, she shouldn’t. We’ll follow Lea’s lead, as we have so many times this year. She’s always been so great and so sensitive and been so wise about how to handle that stuff. So we have to make that decision in the next couple of weeks or months: Is Rachel going to have another romance or does the second half [of Rachel's life], romantically, happen when Glee is over? That’s something we’re debating. It’s hard.

http://tvline.com/2014/04/15/glee-season-6-spoilers-returning-cast/

I honestly can't see that being the case with the numbers they're pulling in. I just can't conceive of the guys at FOX looking at the ratings and saying "Sure, lets sign on for 24 weeks of that."

 

[Schlosser85]

lol, I don't think Murphy has a "firm grasp" on anything to do with this show anymore.