Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[Chewy]

There is no differencee between May weeks and June weeken in spite of what some marvel fan boys state . Kids are still in school until ed of June and warmer weather is beach time , boy I have heard it all . If we are going to us May week s as an excuse Thor had less competetion so it balnces out . though its a dasmn ridiculous argument to begin with

lol

I love when people who have no idea what they're talking about try to rebut points that have decades of historical data backing them up.

 

[Poni_Boy]

lol

I love when people who have no idea what they're talking about try to rebut points that have decades of historical data backing them up.

Stop stating fact!! It's embarrassing!!

 

[Avengers-Report]

Is GL gonna break $150 domestic?

 

[Chewy]

Is GL gonna break $150 domestic?

It's not looking likely. It's mimicking Fantastic Four 2 pretty closely and that opened 5M higher.

 

[craigdbfan]

There is no differencee between May weeks and June weeken in spite of what some marvel fan boys state . Kids are still in school until ed of June and warmer weather is beach time , boy I have heard it all . If we are going to us May week s as an excuse Thor had less competetion so it balnces out . though its a dasmn ridiculous argument to begin with

This has nothing to do with being a Marvel "fanboy" or not. It has everything to do with proven statistics over a long period of time.

Not only that but taking the consensus of the majority into consideration of this movie which is pretty negative for the most part. Financially it's off to a terrible start when you take into account the amount of money spent period.

 

[The Sage]

I agree with the reviewer who said this is the cheapest looking expensive film ever made. The helicopter/hotwheels track scene is a perfect example of spending alot of money on something that looks cheap, silly and stupid. It's the equivalent of the "bullet in the eye" scene from Superman Returns.

The flying scenes were totally uninspired. Fantatic Four was an equally bad film, but even the most ardent haters will admit the Torch flying looked pretty cool. Very uninspired.

I liked the flying scenes. And despite whatever misgivings I had with Superman Returns, the "bullet in the eye" scene was excellent.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This has nothing to do with being a Marvel "fanboy" or not. It has everything to do with proven statistics over a long period of time.

Not only that but taking the consensus of the majority into consideration of this movie which is pretty negative for the most part. Financially it's off to a terrible start when you take into account the amount of money spent period.

It is off to a terrible start and it isn't going to make it's money back. It isn't a very good film and it already has the stink of failure on it. It's over the movie is doomed.

 

[KalMart]

There will be a sequel with half its budget, and a a new director . I just don't think DC is willing to give up just yet on GL

Don't forget hand puppets instead of CG aliens.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Don't forget hand puppets instead of CG aliens.

Yes! And here I present to you a Green Lantern 2 SHH Forum EXCLUSIVE:

 

[Raiden]

Nobody except loony X-Men fans are calling First Class a huge success. It's a disappointment domestically. It's doing fine internationally but the numbers aren't groundbreaking or anything. It's no Pirates 4.

FC is not a huge, runaway success, but considering the bad stain that the previous two X-Men movies left us, to have FC be this great movie is a pleasant surprise, and it laid the groundwork for future sequels if they chose to make it. I prefer it over X3, which made decent money but was a crappy movie by itself.

And Thor did fine but it's not some mega 300mil+ grossers like Iron Man 1 and 2 or TDK or Spider-man 1,2 and 3. Those numbers have been overstated because it's really doing something near Superman Returns worldwide gross without those 3D tickets plumping up it's grosses.

Thor isn't grossing 300 mil domestically, but Thor (like Pirates 4) is doing extremely well oversea, and that's why its WW gross is 435 mil, which is quite exceptional esp. since Thor costs 150 mil to make, and was a relatively unknown superhero. Sure, Thor has 3D to thank, but GL has 3D too and look at their figure by comparison.

 

[KalMart]

Yes! And here I present to you a Green Lantern 2 SHH Forum EXCLUSIVE:

The cut scenes fro GL are out already?!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

FC is not a huge, runaway success, but considering the bad stain that the previous two X-Men movies left us, to have FC be this great movie is a pleasant surprise, and it laid the groundwork for future sequels if they chose to make it. I prefer it over X3, which made decent money but was a crappy movie by itself.



Thor isn't grossing 300 mil domestically, but Thor (like Pirates 4) is doing extremely well oversea, and that's why its WW gross is 435 mil, which is quite exceptional esp. since Thor costs 150 mil to make, and was a relatively unknown superhero. Sure, Thor has 3D to thank, but GL has 3D too and look at their figure by comparison.

I already said that Thor did fine but I'm not going to overstate it's numbers. Just like I'm not going to overstate them.

And I'm not talking about First Class as a film, I'm talking about it's boxoffice numbers. And they aren't good enough to assume that a sequel is signed sealed and delivered. It might get a sequel and it might not. Thats where that is right now.

To sum things up simply:

Thor is a success

GL is a huge failure if not outright bomb

X-Men: First Class is a disappointment

 

[Poni_Boy]

I already said that Thor did fine but I'm not going to overstate it's numbers. Just like I'm not going to overstate them.

And I'm not talking about First Class as a film, I'm talking about it's boxoffice numbers. And they aren't good enough to assume that a sequel is signed sealed and delivered. It might get a sequel and it might not. Thats where that is right now.

To sum things up simply:

Thor is a success

GL is a huge failure if not outright bomb

X-Men: First Class is a disappointment

Wrong. Opening weekend: $55,101,604 on 3,641 screens (Fox estimate $50 mil). Current gross: $123,396,394 (Dom) $287,989,236 (WW). Production Budget: $160 million

And that wasn't with the use of any 3D revenue, you arguably you can say X-Men: First Class had more asses in seats than Thor or Green Lantern.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm not wrong at all. You are reading the numbers with fanboy glasses on while I am not. My love for the film will not in anyway change the boxoffice numbers.

A sequel is possible even with these disappointing numbers but the numbers are disappointing as is the two 50% drops the movie has exprienced.

 

[dark_b]

i dont understand fans who belive that studios realese real budget numbers. why would a studio realese the real budget to the whole public? i just dont get it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

i dont understand fans who belive that studios realese real budget numbers. why would a studio realese the real budget to the whole public? i just dont get it.

They only believe the studio numbers when they make the movies that they like aren't underperforming. He's acting like I'm calling the movie a bomb or something.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'm not wrong at all. You are reading the numbers with fanboy glasses on while I am not. My love for the film will not in anyway change the boxoffice numbers.

A sequel is possible even with these disappointing numbers but the numbers are disappointing as is the two 50% drops the movie has exprienced.

The only films that didn't have significant BO drops from one weekend to the next were Bridesmaids, Fast Five, Pirates of teh Caribbean and Hangover II.

A 50% BO drop in this summer movie season isn't just acceptable it's EXPECTED. That's why GL was tracking at a 60% BO drop even before the opening weekend hit.

No, X-Men: First Class was not a box office disappointment. Fox did not put all their eggs into it's basket (money, merchandising, tie-ins); it was a swan song and a gamble to save the dying X-Men franchise. Surprisingly it paid off well critically and financially.

And I am by no means an X-Men movie fanboy, I just respect the facts more than disappointed people's bias opinions

 

[dark_b]

They only believe the studio numbers when they make the movies that they like aren't underperforming. He's acting like I'm calling the movie a bomb or something.

what i noticed in the last 2 years is that sometieme fans are defending bad BO with toys . they say that with toys and merchandising they will make the money. yes this is true. but when you are in a box office thread talking about the box office then i dont understand why even bring up the toys.

if the movie is performing bad in theaters then of course bomb means that its bombing in the theater.

i mean lets just ignore for a second all the rights and DVDs and toys for Tron. Tron didnt make enough money in the theater. which means that people didnt care for it enough. is this true or not?

Green Lanter is underperfoming. this is a fact. if they will make money back with rights ,dvds and toys then this is good for WB. respect . but right now people are not paying money TO WATCH A MOVIE IN THE THEATER. was the movie made for theater viewing or for toys and DVDs?.

 

[Tony Stark]

As publically traded company, I'm sure there is some requirement on what they report, but like anything else in life there are loopholes, so what you see on BOM is obviously not the whole budget.

Now any corporation is only reuqired to publish their overall profit/loss and not nessisarily for an individual film. However Studios want to get investors excited, so they will release as much information as possible.

 

[Tony Stark]

The only films that didn't have significant BO drops from one weekend to the next were Bridesmaids, Fast Five, Pirates of teh Caribbean and Hangover II.

A 50% BO drop in this summer movie season isn't just acceptable it's EXPECTED. That's why GL was tracking at a 60% BO drop even before the opening weekend hit.

No, X-Men: First Class was not a box office disappointment. Fox did not put all their eggs into it's basket (money, merchandising, tie-ins); it was a swan song and a gamble to save the dying X-Men franchise. Surprisingly it paid off well critically and financially.

And I am by no means an X-Men movie fanboy, I just respect the facts more than disappointed people's bias opinions

I agree with the above, execpt you should replace Thor with Pirates of the Carribean. Pirates had a 55% drop while Thor only had a 47% drop.

 

[Poni_Boy]

what i noticed in the last 2 years is that sometieme fans are defending bad BO with toys . they say that with toys and merchandising they will make the money. yes this is true. but when you are in a box office thread talking about the box office then i dont understand why even bring up the toys.

if the movie is performing bad in theaters then of course bomb means that its bombing in the theater.

i mean lets just ignore for a second all the rights and DVDs and toys for Tron. Tron didnt make enough money in the theater. which means that people didnt care for it enough. is this true or not?

Green Lanter is underperfoming. this is a fact. if they will make money back with rights ,dvds and toys then this is good for WB. respect . but right now people are not paying money TO WATCH A MOVIE IN THE THEATER. was the movie made for theater viewing or for toys and DVDs?.

Green Lantern, specifically, for toys

No I understand and agree with you. Merchandising, home release and all that other jazz has nothing to do with theatrical success, just overall commercial success.

And the people who quote toy sales/home release sales seem to forget that those come with their own independent costs as well for production and marketing; that's a whole other budget the studio needs to win back

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

First Class didn't just drop 56% in it's second weekend though, it dropped 51% this past weekend too. Those are not amazing legs or even good legs in the slightest. I loved the film but it's frontloaded as hell and it's obvious that the word of mouth isn't as good as some believed.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

But hasn't X-men always been frontloaded...?

The word of mouth that this was actually... a *gasp* good X-men movie, no doubt pushed the opening weekend.

However as usual... nobody sticks around for seconds.

 

[mr jinx]

Regardless of the final numbers, I will be angry in 5 years if there is no GL sequel or follow up after getting Fantastic Four 2, Ghost Rider 2, a Daredevil Reboot and Elektra, and a Superman Reboot all on the heels of box office disappointments.

 

[KalMart]

I'd actually applaud studios if they just stopped pouring more money into sequels for movies that didn't deserve them.