Gwen vs. MJ

[ZER0C00L]

kill the Dunst

 

[lordofthenerds]

Kill MJ.

 

[darkhold]

im gonna jump on the bandwagon, dunst dies. that was the first thing i thought when i saw the news.

 

[venomous]

^My thoughts exactly. See ya MJ! Na Na Na Na...Na Na Na Na...Hey Hey Hey..Goodbye!

 

[craigaat]

I voted Mary Jane. Not because I want her to, but because I think they've introduced Gwen so that Kirsten Dunst doesn't have to do any more movies after this one.

 

[mjbull23]

Cya MJ.

 

[Immortalfire]

Harry will already be unstable as Goblin. For whatever reason, he'll kill Gwen which will ultimately snap his mind.."Oh no..I killed someone". Because his persona just isn't one of evil. Then he's captured by Spidey. Or something like that..

 

[SLYspyder]

you bunch of treacherous bastards. MJ will NOT win the poll!

 

[Frenzy]

Harry = Green Goblin 2
Gwen Stacey = New love interest
Spidey tries to choose (again)...
Mary Jane Watson = R.I.P.

What bridge, oh sh...

 

[Pagrebo]

Dunst must die, but not MJ. Send MJ to Hollyweird, and bring her back in a later installment, with a different actress.

 

[Spider-Bite]

It doesn't have to be a bridge. She could die some other way you know. I think Spider-Man will be forced to watch helplessly, unable to help. This death better make people cry.

 

[Frenzy]

I know it could be anything I just think if one scene was ever repeated in a Spidey movie it should be the "Now choose Hero" bridge scene with GG2 and MJ and Gwen. What will he do. He went for both last time (MJ and the cable car) and saved both. Will his skill be enough this time?

I think whoever dies it will be from his actions trying to save them NOT from him being unable to help. That's far more tragic and true to the comics.

 

[Webhead38]

Most people don't remember or were not born yet to know that in the early 70's when Gwen was killed, there emerged two camps of opinion. Most were outraged at Gwen being killed because she had endeared herself to so many readers and fo rsome they wished MJ had been the one sacrificed. Ultimately she was killed off because writer Gerry Conway considered MJ to be more dynamic and didn't think the Gwen Stacy character held much promise for future development. Thus began the debate concerning MJ and Gwen that, thanks to Sam Raimi, has been essentially raised from the dead in present times.
Honestly, I completely believe MJ will be killed off. Why not? In many ways Raimi has given her the Gwen Stacy treatment and it seems likely that Harry would gravitate to her to seek out his ultimate revenge not only on Spidey but also Peter. Remember, he believes Spiderman killed his father and Peter essentially took MJ away from him. Now that he knows Peter and Spiderman are the same wouldn't he seek her death to satisfy that rage and do it as the Green Goblin in tribute to his dad?
From a business standpoint it makes sense too, because the studio can bring in a new female lead of major interest but pay her on a different salary from Dunst. Plus it satisfys all of us old readers who always wanted to see Peter live happily ever-after with Gwen. I think it's brilliant move on Raimi's part. I love the series so far and can't wait to see what surprises Raimi holds for three. Another instant classic in the making!!!

 

[Spider-X]

this is very very interesting...thanks for that Webhead38, i never thought about the outrage from the 70's...

this makes this situation even more possible.

i still hope Gwen dies though

but i would love to see a new actress play MJ...there are so many better choices out there...

also, with bringing Gwen into the picture, Sam might, somehow, make MJ's character more dynamic and true to comic form through conflict and competition...

i'm just worried about how it will effect the actual comics if MJ dies in the movies...i'm sure they'll end up killing her in the comics too (remember, spidey has organics in the comics and doc ock has red lights in the claws of his tenticles now) and i wouldn't be happy about that at all... and who knows what they'll do to Gwen's character in the comics after that

we'll just have to wait and see...

 

[Webhead38]

I think it's safe to say movies and comics run along two different lines of reality... and thankfully so. Personally I collected comics heavily from 1970 until about '84. Marvel started tinkering with all their heroes which ultimately tanked my devotion for the hobby. The new gimmick became less story and more make-overs (it appears their doing that yet again with Spidey). I've always found it interesting that Marvel has yet to learn the importance of continuity after screwing up that formula back in the 80's. How many times have they killed Aunt May? How many outfits has Spidey changed into before going back to the original? And let's not even get started on the clone stories!!! That essentially destroyed twenty years of carefully scripted character development. Through the years I always pick up a few issues here and there if a story looked good, but ultimately it was short-lived. Marvel writers are constantly changing the characters and their origins. So much so that there really is nothing left to follow. The biggest injustice was tampering with the Gwen Stacy story and bringing Norman Osbourn back to life. What a terrible idea that was and even a worse explanation when put to paper. Awful, unoriginal, and completely amatuerish. Is it really any surprise that these $200 million movies borrow heavily from scripts in the 70's? What are writers doing today? Another Spidey makeover...oh brother.

 

[Abaddon]

I'd rather neither die,but Dunst biting it is a tempting choice.

 

[Robin91939]

Why would any of you want MJ to die? She just CAN'T die. EVEN MORESO when the other choice is Stacey who DID die....and her only purpous IS to die.

-R

 

[Robin91939]

:: Double Post ::

-R

 

[Abaddon]

Why would any of you want MJ to die? She just CAN'T die. EVEN MORESO when the other choice is Stacey who DID die....and her only purpous IS to die.

-R

Gwens purpose was not to die.She spent years as Peters main squeeze and the love of his life.Thats why her death meant something.Gwen doesnt serve that purpose in the movies,so what would be the point in killing her?Just because she dies in the comics?Its ridiculous.

 

[Eros]

abaddon then i guess with your rational, venom should be spidermans long
lost borther. Or Peter parker should be a world famous celebrity. Somebody has to die and it ain't gonna be M.J. especially since Raimin invested 2 movies into her and she is more dynamic [ or can be] then gwen stacy. whos been dead before most of us were born. if M.J. died moveverse peter might just quit being spiderman again.

 

[Abaddon]

abaddon then i guess with your rational, venom should be spidermans long
lost borther. Or Peter parker should be a world famous celebrity. Somebody has to die and it ain't gonna be M.J. especially since Raimin invested 2 movies into her and she is more dynamic [ or can be] then gwen stacy. whos been dead before most of us were born. if M.J. died moveverse peter might just quit being spiderman again.

How do those comparisons in any way relate to my point?

 

[Eros]

you point abbadon was that just cause its a certian way in the comics it should not be in the movies,right? well superhero movies can and should change certain things, but gwen stacy dieing is to big of a history to change. i dun need an emotional attachment to feel sad when somebody dies, its human nature. Im sure gwens life and demise would fit nicely in this movie [if anyone here remebers her comic book life ].

 

[The Hurricane]

Gwen has to die but it would make it more interesting if M.J did. that way it isnt so easy for us to predict what is going to happen in these movies. I voted for aunt may

 

[hulkamania85]

Voted MJ. Dunst isn't all that great, and i wouldn't mind seeing Gwen as the new love interest.

 

[Immortalfire]

So the only logic i'm seeing here is "kill MJ because I don't like Dunst".

Brilliant