Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

[Paradoxium]

You know you could always mind**** David into a confession

 

[B]

This fool has apparently lost his mind.

I would never have thought that someone I have known for so long would go to such great lengths to make my life a nightmare but...here I am. The last 24-48 hours have been even more hellish as David is determined to drive me crazy and harrass me. I honestly do not know what I've done to deserve this...

* David has been in the house. The one I'm staying in. We believe he came in sometime while we were both at work today. Nothing of significant value is missing accept that he took some framed photographs of me and him. These were stolen from the attic where I stored them after Jason started coming over/staying overnight. This is very disturbing because for David to have found them in the attic means he either watched me take them down (far-fetched) or spent a long time in the house looking for them.

* He also took with him--weird as f*** enough--all of my jock-straps...even the dirty ones in the hamper for Christ's sake.

I'm right with you, this guy has crossed a line. I'd be somewhat worried that someone, whom I (well you) ended with on not so happy terms, had let themselves into my house. If taking something (even dirty f**kin jock-straps) wasn't bad enough, I'd be filled with rage first & formost.. but at the same time I'd be kinda creeped out that he could let himself into my house at night & I could end up waking up with them watching me sleep..

As I said, keep a baseball bat within an arms reach of the bed. If an intruder is in your home you can beat the **** clean out of them.

* Over the last couple of days I've been getting a few strange cell phone...calls many of them from unrecognizable phone numbers or "Restricted" callers. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't answer calls from numbers I don't recognize. However, as the frequency and sporadic nature of the calls increased Jason became very concerned. Last night he said I should answer one of them the next time it came through. So I did so and at the other end of the damn line was some deep-voiced guy talking dirty about sucking d*** and getting ass--but it was not David's voice. I told dude that he had the wrong number and hung up. But he called right back asking for Caliph. I can't tell you the sick feeling I had in my stomach when he did that. I told him that he had the wrong number/wrong guy.

About 20 minutes later another call came another call. This time Jason took the phone out of my hand and answered it. It was another cat on the phone--different from the one I had just spoken to. Jason played it cool, saying that he was indeed "Caliph". The man proceeded to start talking about taking "me" up on my offer. Jason started to talk dirty back to the guy (which really shocked me off my ass). Through all the innuendo, Jason was able to get out of the guy where he had got my number. Apparently David had written my number, name and some erotic sexual offers at some mens restroom at a highway reststop--and possibly others. After he got the information he needed, Jason informed the man that he was actually a cop and was tracking his number and that if he ever called mine again he would have him arrested. The man hung up quickly.

Don't answer them, I never do.. no one would withhold their number if they knew you. The only people that withhold their number is companies trying to sell you **** & people who don't want you to know their number because they are up to no good.. So just ignore them or else if the calls persist, slap on your caller divert & slap all calls to 911.

Last night after this episode, we actually drove out to the rest stop that the perv had revealed. It was about 2 am by time we got there. Sure enough we found my information scribbled on the stall of the mens room and above the urinal. I obviously cannot type what was written here but needless to say it referred to my physical endowment and that I was interested in a good time. And not only was my full name written there, but even my cell phone and e-mail address. We were able to work with the management there to get the information removed/painted over. But still...WTF. Really??

I wanted to change my cell phone number immediately, but we've decided to keep it because we need to know David's next move and he's still communicating with me via text message...although the text messages have become extremely "kind" and "sunshiny" now, and the threats have ceased coming. His messages mostly consist of "How's the weather?" and "Remember when we used to..." type messages. He has made no further mention of Jason. Currently, we don't know where David is staying at now because he checked out from the hotel that I dropped him off at before Christmas. I called his mom and she was under the impression that he left on December 26th--which was his original plan. This means he is probably somewhere in this city loose and not even his family--nor I--know where he's stationed.

I am sooo ready to take legal action but I'm caught between a rock and a hard spot because of the legalities involved (David and I own a lot of things together) and because technically we don't have hard evidence that David is truly the one behind all of this. For example, a couple of days ago Jason got his hands on another cam tape from the building I stay in and from that vantage point it is clear that the tall "bum" that vandalized our cars was a fair complexioned African American man--not David. He was indeed a thug-type...and we're thinking that perhaps he was paid to do the deeds.

This ex of yours is displaying serial killer traits..

I'd phone him & arrange to meet him in broad daylight in a crowded place, get your key back & make it quite clear you don't want to hear from him again, or find your number wrote on a bog wall in some random place again otherwise you'll be contacting the police & directing them to you.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Going by LS' posts, LS is the first guy Jason has been with. This is all new to him, it's has to be fairly scary for him right now. He's probably not ashamed, just not ready to announce to the world that he's gay or bi, nothing wrong with that.Going by LS' posts, LS is the first guy Jason has been with. This is all new to him, it's has to be fairly scary for him right now. He's probably not ashamed, just not ready to announce to the world that he's gay or bi, nothing wrong with that.

The only person I am more worried about right now is Jason. I know he's got to be like, "WTF did I get myself into"? He is already so quick to generalize all M2M relationships and I know he's thinking that every break-up is this nasty. But the truth is, this is a very unique situation I think...at least, I don't believe it's standard. We are just dealing with a very angry person who happens to be an influential person as well. But no one is invincible.

Also, Jason is not ashamed of being bi. And as I mentioned above, he's willing to do or say whatever it takes to have my back in this situation. We are working together on this.

That's the hole in the boat, in my opinion. If Jason hadn't lied to save his reputation, LS would be able tell the police the truth. His ex-boyfriend is the primary suspect, corroborated by several harassing text messages. He's clearly emotional; no body vandalizes and leaves a digital trail of text messages like that.

It's ironic as hell that David is acting with no thought to self-preservation, while Jason forms a hindrance by acting with only his self-preservation in mind.

Caliph, I think you need to annex yourself emotionally from both of these persons and decide for yourself what needs to be done.

EDIT: I can see how you might've come to this conclusion, but I think you've got Jason all wrong. He is handling this very professionally and dare I say it--methodically. He believes there is a way to get David to tip his hand without damage to Jason's reputation or mine. Again, remember, off line I'm not exactly "out" either...I don't run around with a rainbow colored muscle-tee saying "Free Me Now." Jason says that more time is essential to accomplish this. I don't think that Jason "lied" per se, as much as not telling the entire truth to protect himself. Think about it: if he did tell them his entire involvement with me it would preclude him from doing the investigation himself as others would claim he's too emotionally involved/biased to be objective. They'd take him off the case (although again he's working with the cops as my home is out of his jurisdiction).

The way it looks to others right now is a cop helping out one of his buddies. They just don't know that the cop is also around with the buddy when he gets off his shift.

Imagine if his next movie is stalking you HERE...your home away from home...

Does he knows about you and this place?

You mean The Hype? No. We've always had separate PCs, laptops and offices. That was a must for his legal profession.

 

[Marx]

Do not let your pride get the best of you LS. It is very noble that you're wanting to stay in your own place...but it might be wise to take Jason up on his offer. If David has been in the house while you're away, there is nothing to suggest that he won't come in while you're there. (Possibly when you're asleep...and you won't realize it until it's too late.)

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

You know you could always mind**** David into a confession

Naw, f*** that--David's apparently running around with a got-damn purple helmet on...I can't find him. Therefore, I'm using straight up TEKE on his ass the minute I see him.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

* He also took with him--weird as f*** enough--all of my jock-straps...even the dirty ones in the hamper for Christ's sake.

Heh, not surprised. Your stalker is doing everything my ex's did. Next would be the phone calls to your parent(s). Let us know if this happens.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Do not let your pride get the best of you LS. It is very noble that you're wanting to stay in your own place...but it might be wise to take Jason up on his offer.

No.

Although I can't change the locks, I changed the alarm code after we realized that he'd been in the house. If he trips it I will know he's in the house.

David is a coward, but he's not stupid. Jason is 6'5 and 240 lbs of muscle. He alone would break his ass in two, not to mention if I were to get into the mix too. I may only be 5'11 but David knows I have gotten into my share of fights/scraps over the years.

He won't try it.

 

[Twitch]

Is Jason a detective or a uniform? I'm just curious because Jason shows some real experience getting that restroom information

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I must be the only person who would behave like Jason in the situation. Man's not ready to attend any gay pride parades just yet. Let him get all the way out of the closet first before you close the door and tell the world.

Exactly. You got it.

Jason is not ashamed of anything. But all of this is new to him and he's trying to navigate through this as best he can. He is very stressed about this and he's been staying up till like 3 or even 4 in the morning before falling asleep in the living room watching TV downstairs just to keep an eye out.

But for all of it, he has maintained his dry sense of humor. For example, he said that after this is all over whenever I go out in public I must wear a paper bag over my head.

LS make sure you keep copies of all these text messages you've been getting in case you need them in the future

I have been. Is there a better way to do it beyond just on my phone though? Is there software that can enable me to print them out somehow?

Not to add to the paranoia of him stalking you through the net LS, but if David has any video site accounts that you know of then you might want to check those too. If he does indeed have your place bugged... well, you know what happens to people who are in videos on the net

S***.

I honestly didn't think about that.

Uh...we do have a video we made of us...like a "Boys Gone Wild" thing. We did it back in 1998 or 1999. Nothing too risque but I showed some stuff I shouldn't have. Nothing like Pamela Anderson type shizz but I need to go see if it's still here.

 

[Hotwire]

Get you a couple of these.

http://www.nannycam.com/

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm right with you, this guy has crossed a line. I'd be somewhat worried that someone, whom I (well you) ended with on not so happy terms, had let themselves into my house. If taking something (even dirty f**kin jock-straps) wasn't bad enough, I'd be filled with rage first & formost.. but at the same time I'd be kinda creeped out that he could let himself into my house at night & I could end up waking up with them watching me sleep..

As co-owner of the house, David has the right to come and go as he pleases. Is he abusing that right? Yes. But he has the right nonetheless. And as far as the missing jock-straps, he could easily say any number of things if pressed about why they're missing--even "I didn't take them."

David doesn't have smelling fetishes as far as I know...so I doubt he's at home smelling my dirrrrrty drawls. Knowing him, he'll probably set them on fire or some s*** and mail them back to me in box full of dead roses.

He has a morbid side that's actually quite amusing...when he's your friend.

As I said, keep a baseball bat within an arms reach of the bed. If an intruder is in your home you can beat the **** clean out of them.

I've got more than a bat at my disposal, but your point is well taken.

I'd phone him & arrange to meet him in broad daylight in a crowded place, get your key back & make it quite clear you don't want to hear from him again, or find your number wrote on a bog wall in some random place again otherwise you'll be contacting the police & directing them to you.

My instincts tell me that that wouldn't go over too well...even in a public place. David is one of the most charming men I've ever met. He has a way of smiling at you and threatening at the exact same time so that passersby think we are actually having a good discussion. It'd be so creepy and it'd accomplish nothing because he'd deny everything and if my body language (or Jason's if I took him with me) changed to become hostile David would act like he's being victimized. If we come at him without concrete proof--which he knows I don't have--he will literally laugh in my face...trust me.

The thing I am REALLY trying to avoid here is a legal battle with this man. It would get very, very nasty and if he feels antagonized he will bring the battle to my doorstep in an ugly and unexpected way. There is so much on the line financially and I have to tread carefully. If I can just ride out this stupid wave of anger he's surfing right now perhaps he'll leave me alone.

The easiest way to solve this issue with Dave is--and I hate to say it--sex. If I called him right now and said let's meet at a hotel and f*** he'd feel vindicated...even empowered over Jason. Like some sort of f**king victory dance. It'd make a point to Jason because I think it's pretty clear that David has no intention of getting back in a relationship with me. He. Does not. Want me back.

At this point this is a power struggle for Dave...dude has serious power-tripping issues.

 

[Darthphere]

Wear a wire.

 

[StorminNorman]

This **** is crazy.

 

[Scarlet spidey]

Someday a movie will be made about your life.

 

[Tsunulia]

^^ Jut keep Micheal Bay away from it.

 

[B]

As co-owner of the house, David has the right to come and go as he pleases. Is he abusing that right? Yes. But he has the right nonetheless. And as far as the missing jock-straps, he could easily say any number of things if pressed about why they're missing--even "I didn't take them."

David doesn't have smelling fetishes as far as I know...so I doubt he's at home smelling my dirrrrrty drawls. Knowing him, he'll probably set them on fire or some s*** and mail them back to me in box full of dead roses.

He has a morbid side that's actually quite amusing...when he's your friend.

I saw you changed the alarm which is a good idea, I'd stick it on during the night. If someone is letting themselves into the house when they shouldn't technically be there then you should definatly know about it..especally at night when your guard is down.

Hes probably wearing the dirty ones.. ....

I've got more than a bat at my disposal, but your point is well taken.

Golf clubs are my personal favourites. t:

My instincts tell me that that wouldn't go over too well...even in a public place. David is one of the most handsome men I have ever laid eyes on--literally. He has a way of smiling at you and threatening at the exact same time so that passersby think we are actually having a good discussion. It'd be so creepy and it'd accomplish nothing because he'd deny everything and if my body language (or Jason's if I took him with me) changed to become hostile David would act like he's being victimized. If we come at him without concrete proof--which he knows I don't have--he will literally laugh in my face...trust me.

Have you considered perhaps setting up a few of those little discreet security cameras in your house/apartment(?) & or perhaps one overlooking your vehicle to try & catch him in the act? Or perhaps a known friend of his doing the dirty work for him..?

Some of them I believe are dirt cheap, can be well hidden & don't require any installation leads.

The thing I am REALLY trying to avoid here is a legal battle with this man. It would get very, very nasty and if he feels antagonized he will bring the battle to my doorstep in an ugly and unexpected way. There is so much on the line financially and I have to tread carefully. If I can just ride out this stupid wave of anger he's surfing right now perhaps he'll leave me alone.

I understand, without knowing you personally I can imagine it would be very stressful if your somewhat privite about your sexual preferences in relation to your family/friend/co-workers etc as well as any financial dispute risks... but at the same time you shouldn't allow yourself to be living in fear of what this ex of yours might or might not do. You should take control of the situation & make a move to show him your not going to be intimidated.

 

[Darthphere]

I have been. Is there a better way to do it beyond just on my phone though? Is there software that can enable me to print them out somehow?

I assume you have a newer model phone so it should be possible to get a USB cable that would connect your phone to a comp and allow the transfer of contacts, pics and text messages.

As co-owner of the house, David has the right to come and go as he pleases. Is he abusing that right? Yes. But he has the right nonetheless. And as far as the missing jock-straps, he could easily say any number of things if pressed about why they're missing--even "I didn't take them."

Not necessarily. I need more info on this co-ownership agreement for me to give my full 2 cents.

 

[C. Lee]

He is more concerned about me actually being in physical danger because he thinks David is deranged. I don't think that David is though.

How many times have you heard that on the evening news?

Paper trail with the police is needed to put this guy away.

 

[enterthemadness]

If you only knew how much I wished this was true.






Let's hope not. I doubt he's in the attic. LOL

However I will admit this (and I never EVER thought I'd say it): I truly want to beat David's ass down right now. I mean, seriously. This fool is like some sort of stealth assasin or some s*** like that. The only other cat that wants to destroy his face more is Jason.

David are a Ninja? Wouldn't it be hilarious if David came out and was like: ' but I was just practicing my ninja/creep/stalker skillz lulz.'

Seriously though...this is not good. When you life is starting to sound like a soap...not good.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Have you given thought that he's set up cameras around the house? Either that or he's bluffing bigtime...

No, Jason checked for that and there are no cameras anywhere. And it's a good thing too because if there were, they'd pick up some interesting s***. [BLACKOUT]I've noticed that since this whole David mess has been going down, Jason has been really uh....coming out of his "shell" if you know what I mean. He's like a rabbit on f***ing catnip and while the activity is (not to mention a great reliever of stress for both of us) I'm more concerned about what is fueling this new appetite. He acts like he has something to prove to me now. Wouldn't most couples facing our situation have less sex out of paranoia? Personally, I'm so worried/depressed about what's going on that sex is the last thing on my mind. But Jason has this RAWR switch that he turns on at the most weird times...like right after we learn something more terrible about David's stalking activities. I mean, who wants to get busy after learning their name and number was scribbled on a rest stop stall? [/BLACKOUT]

I think this whole experience has made him feel very insecure and my actions at the hotel last week did not help matters. Everything about these two relationships is very fragile right now.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

How many times have you heard that on the evening news?

Paper trail with the police is needed to put this guy away.

If he tries to come after me he will get his ass handed to him. But I honestly don't think it will come to that. However, to your second point I am documenting everything that happens. We both are.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

A friend of mine just YIMed me saying that I've failed to put my LS Essay trademark "theme song" to this situation. For some reason I can't really think of anything that's more appropos than this:

[YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5pSCqfqStHs&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5pSCqfqStHs&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT]

Why must my life be so hard?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Is Jason a detective or a uniform? I'm just curious because Jason shows some real experience getting that restroom information

He wears a uniform. But I will admit that I was also very impressed with how he handled that guy on the phone. I even asked him if he enjoyed that because he was getting into character a bit too much (talking sexy and provocative like). He just looked at me like , rolled his eyes and went off to the kitchen to get himself a Bud-light. Came back and just turned on the TV and told me to get ready to take a ride up the express way. Like it wasn't s***.

Like I said...dude has ice water in his veins.

 

[Darthphere]

He wears a uniform. But I will admit that I was also very impressed with how he handled that guy on the phone. I even asked him if he enjoyed that because he was getting into character a bit too much (talking sexy and provocative like). He just looked at me like , rolled his eyes and went off to the kitchen to get himself a Bud-light. Came back and just turned on the TV and told me to get ready to take a ride up the express way. Like it wasn't s***.

Like I said...dude has ice water in his veins.

End this relationship now.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Good lord LS, I just read up on what's been going on and my God that's scary. I really believe David has crossed the line as well, like many others have mentioned by now.
How close to the bedroom, or wherever goes on, to your front door? I mean if David could get in while you were gone, (I'm assuming he still has a key), could he have snuck in that Christmas night when that was going on? You mentioned you thought he could have been watching through the window, but how high is your apartment?
Honestly, there probably isn't much more I can say that anyone else hasn't told you by now. It sounds like you could be in some real danger LS, so I hope things work out and get better. Also, I wasn't aware anyone actually responded to that **** on the truck stop walls.