Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

[-Arya-]

I would have wringed Jason's neck too....but alas.

 

[Gilpesh]

Hey. At least we're all miserable together. That's got to count for something.

 

[mrvlknight21]

I would have wringed Jason's neck too....but alas.

wrung?

 

[-Arya-]

wrung?

Not interchangeable?

Ok then, wrung.......

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I would have wringed Jason's neck too....but alas.

Lawl...you'll have to get in line (like on the Airplane movie). The only other Yawker that has claims to wringing his neck right now is me.

















But yeah, the guilt thing is pretty bad for him. He feels that something as great as we have should not be deemed condemnatory and doomed by God. And he can't reconcile his feelings for me and God. And it all makes sense to me now: the way he behaved at the gay club--that was the REAL Jason coming to the surface. But then the feelings of self-loathing would return, ergo, he didn't want to talk about/acknowledge what he did at the club after the fact.

There were times when he'd get up in the middle of the night and go to the bathroom. He wouldn't use it. He'd just stay in there for an hour....just weeping. Not like "Waaaaa" like girly...but more like, crying tears of anger...bitterness over what he was doing with me. Pounding his fist on the wall and s***.

I'd be listening at the door, and eventually I would just go back to bed with total WTF feelings...I didn't know what to do.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Sorry LS...I thought things were going better and all.

Damn, and I was sad to hear your thread would be ending because everything was going great, and then you do update again and it's this. I'm really sorry LS. Just looking back at what you told us guys went through in that short time is astounding, and I really hate it that he's torn like that. Coming from a religious background, I've seen how hateful people become over the sheer mention of homosexuality in some areas. I have my own religious views, but I have no reason to condemn you LS for what you feel is right. We're all human, and way too many people are quick to pass judgement a sif they are the vocie of God himself.
Off that topic, I hope he comes back LS. The thread had that short-lived air of happiness what with all the victory (I suppose that's what I'll phrase it), and it was nice to hear that everything may have been cleared up. Keep us posted man.

 

[The Survivalist]

Moderators Notes: 01/06/10 Thread merge containing "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom" and "I Got A Stalker For Christmas"

So...this experience actually took place a few weeks ago, but I'm posting about it now because a recent development has grown out of it--and it's actually positive. The details are a bit longwinded so bear with me...

Background: As many of you are aware, I am now officially a "single" bachelor again, so lately, I've been doing a lot of partying, traveling (both domestically and internationally), and social networking. Don't get me wrong: I am determined not to 'rebound' so I haven't been doing all of this in search of a new love interest. Rather, because I am such an extroverted person I draw power from being around people. You could say that loneliness is my personal Kryptonite. So here's what happened, and I'm editing some of it for content.

I had gone out to see a movie with some friends. All of us work out at the same gym on the regular. Inside the theater's lobby they have these self-serve stations where you can get condiments, butter your popcorn, dress hot dogs with toppings, etc. etc. My friends and I were getting our stuff and these two guys came by to put some extra butter on their popcorn. Both of these dudes were cut and obviously worked out at the gym. However, my gaydar was set off instantly when I saw them. They had the whole "Leather" look going on and in terms of gay class identification, they would fall under the "Bear" and "Daddy" category. One was younger, about 20-something, bald, with a lot of tats and piercings. The other one was probably somewhere in his late 50's with a goatee and glasses. Both were white.

The older "Daddy" was across the counter from me and he was staring at the dog tags I had around my neck (the top five or six buttons of my shirt were unbuttoned). He asked if I had served. I told him "No" and that they were a gift to me from the family of a dear friend of mine that died in the Gulf war years ago. He said they looked "hot" on me and I thanked him for the comps. He was clearly flirting but I thought it was harmless. So we went into the theater to watch the movie. The guy and his friend followed us into the same screening.

After the movie was over with we all came out to reconvene in the lobby (one of the guys in my group went to see a different movie all by himself). While we were waiting for him, I decided to go and use the restroom. The two guys that were eyeing me earlier decided to come into the restroom as well. The original "Daddy" guy that spoke to me at the condiment station was staring at me the whole time and I started to get a creepy feeling.

Unlike some men, I have a habit of always washing my hands even before taking a piss (because theaters are nasty and an obvious haven for germs and H1N1, etc.,). So while I was washing my hands at the sink, the guy came up to me again and started washing his hands too. Since we were both in front of the mirrors I couldn't help but look at him and vise versa now. His friend went into one of the stalls. Older Dude was definitely casing me because he licked his lips and complimented me again by saying that I had pretty skin. Then he asked if I was dating any of the guys that were with me. Creepy as f***. I ignored him and I simply said "Thanks" and to have a nice day. As I reached for the paper towel dispenser, he said, "Oh...you're one of those stuck-up pretty boy b***ches huh? I turned to him and said "Excuse me? F*** off dude."

So as Wonder Woman would say, here's where "the wisdom of Athena"--AKA my street smarts--left me. I went to the urinal to pee with my back to this guy. A stupid move. His friend came up next to me as if he was going to take a leak in the urinal next to mine. But instead, he looked over down at my penis and said to his friend that it was "as big as my attitude problem." Now keep in mind, I am mid-piss. Before I could even turn around, the daddy guy came up behind me and bashed my face into the tile wall in front of me. Obviously blood went gushing from my nose and my lip which got split from the impact. [blackout]And to think I always believed my nose was wide before this happened. [/blackout]

One of my friends came into the restroom at that moment (to do whatever) and his entrance blocked the exit of the two cats that tag-teamed me. His name is Jason. As soon as he saw my face, and the older guy's bloodied fist" he instantly knew what was going on and got in the mix. Jason is a cop, and even though he wasn't on duty, the boy has serrrious moves. He subdued the older gentlemen, while I tried to beat the crap out of the younger one. I was a bit delirious (sp?) so I seemed to ignore Jason's shouting to "stop". But truth is, my head was pounding and I couldn't hear him.

By then other guys had come into the restroom and there was a lot of commotion. A young teenage kid (probably 13 or 14) was obviously full of glee to see grown-ass men fist-fighting so he was screaming "fight! fight!" which caused a bit of a stampede. Two of the mall security guys came rushing in and they in term radioed in for official city cops. The whole time, Jason kept the guys subdued because he told them he was a cop. And my other friends had also come into the restroom and they were helping me hold it down. Once the cops came, Jason was able to fill them in on what happened. Jason wasn't in their precinct, but thankfully for me they knew him from being on the beat. It was all good. He worked it out to where I didn't get arrested (even though technically I should've been for retaliating).

The whole wrap-up took a long while to get statements, et al from all involved. The cops ended up taking the two jokers in.

Now, of all the guys that were in my group that night, I'd say that Jason was the one I knew least well. I have actually known who he was for a long time being that he was a cop and I was a firefighter. We often crossed paths in our professions. But aside from that and seeing him at the gym we weren't really all that close. But due to this situation, something very interesting has happened. This post is too long so I will post the follow-up shortly on what happened this past weekend.

You should go to the nearest Federal courthouse and have these vermin prosecuted for hate crimes! Nobody has the right to treat either an adult or a kid the way you were treated.

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm very sorry to hear this Caliph....especially that his religious beliefs and (in my never too humble opinion) man-made rules inserted into the "word of God" for the political purposes of power-hungry men thousands of years ago that have no application in today's world at all have driven him away from you.

There's my $.02 said and done.

Best of luck to you two in the future, or with whoever you find yourself.

 

[mrvlknight21]

You should go to the nearest Federal courthouse and have these vermin prosecuted for hate crimes! Nobody has the right to treat either an adult or a kid the way you were treated.

LOL. Strong first post and a lot of reading to do to catch up.....t:

 

[Matt.S99]

Caliph

I'm hoping you guys get back together.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

You should go to the nearest Federal courthouse and have these vermin prosecuted for hate crimes! Nobody has the right to treat either an adult or a kid the way you were treated.

Wow...you used your first post here at the Hype to contibute to my thread? That's awesome. Thanks for your comments--and rest assured the vermin were indeed prosecuted and jailed.

Lawl @ "Vermin".

Welcome to the Hype buddy.


Thanks to everyone for the kind words. Actually, things have been getting a little more interesting in the last 24 hours. I'll keep this brief, but Jason and I had a uh...slip-up (if you know what I mean) last night after he got off work. Up till now, I've been 100% celibate (sp?) since our decision to take a break--even sleeping in separate rooms until I get my new place. But last night our inhibitions were lowered; we both had been drinking and...well you know what happened. It wasn't planned or anything...it just kinda happened. A lot can be said for make-up love but now he says he's screwed up even worse emotionally (I told him that the power of sex will do that to ya).

When we woke up this morning he told me that he's gonna go to his pastor and confess his sins on Sunday. He says he desires guidance on whether God still loves him. Depending on what guidance he gets from his pastor, will determine whether he comes back to me and our relationship.

Is it fair/right that he should put the future of OUR relationship in the hands/words of his pastor???

 

[Gilpesh]

And this is why people mock religion. It makes normal people think they are killing Jesus for living their lives.

 

[ComicChick]

*celibate

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Thanks CC...*goes to edit*

 

[Marx]

Wow...you used your first post here at the Hype to contibute to my thread? That's awesome. Thanks for your comments--and rest assured the vermin were indeed prosecuted and jailed.

Lawl @ "Vermin".

Welcome to the Hype buddy.


Thanks to everyone for the kind words. Actually, things have been getting a little more interesting in the last 24 hours. I'll keep this brief, but Jason and I had a uh...slip-up (if you know what I mean) last night after he got off work. Up till now, I've been 100% celibate (sp?) since our decision to take a break--even sleeping in separate rooms until I get my new place. But last night our inhibitions were lowered; we both had been drinking and...well you know what happened. It wasn't planned or anything...it just kinda happened. A lot can be said for make-up love but now he says he's screwed up even worse emotionally (I told him that the power of sex will do that to ya).

When we woke up this morning he told me that he's gonna go to his pastor and confess his sins on Sunday. He says he desires guidance on whether God still loves him. Depending on what guidance he gets from his pastor, will determine whether he comes back to me and our relationship.

Is it fair/right that he should put the future of OUR relationship in the hands/words of his pastor???

In my opinion, the future of your relationship should be between you two. (Then again, I'm not an overly religious person.) Depending on the type of church and the feelings of the church, he could very well be bible-thumped in confession. It seems clear that his religion is incredibly important to him.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

In my opinion, the future of your relationship should be between you two. (Then again, I'm not an overly religious person.) Depending on the type of church and the feelings of the church, he could very well be bible-thumped in confession. It seems clear that his religion is incredibly important to him.

He's Catholic. Don't they believe that bisexuals and gays are the Anti-Christ? If so, he is gonna come back shut down and dejected.

 

[Marx]

He's Catholic. Don't they believe that bisexuals and gays are the Anti-Christ? If so, he is gonna come back shut down and dejected.

I'm not too familiar with the Catholicism...but I'm sure he'll be beaten down because 'homosexuality is against god's will'.

 

[Hound55]

I'm not too familiar with the Catholicism...but I'm sure he'll be beaten down because 'homosexuality is against god's will'.

Me neither... but I'm pretty sure they aren't wild about it...

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

What was the religion that had the Gay Pastor that was way up in the ranks? Was it the Evangelical? Maybe he should switch to them?

 

[Marx]

How long has he been a member of this church?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

How long has he been a member of this church?

He told me he was baptized there. So I guess all his life? His family rarely attends services there though. And Jason himself is not exactly a serious churchgoer either (beyond Easter and Christmas) so I'm not sure why he feels this sudden need to "go get saved" by his pastor of all people.

He sure as well wasn't trying to get saved last night.

 

[Marx]

He told me he was baptized there. So I guess all his life? His family rarely attends services there though. And Jason himself is not exactly a serious churchgoer either (beyond Easter and Christmas) so I'm not sure why he feels this sudden need to "go get saved" by his pastor of all people.

He sure as well wasn't trying to get saved last night.

I'm sorry man...

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Oh it's cool. I'm not angry at Jase in the least for wanting to go to Church. I understand his struggle because I've been where he is (albeit without the help of another man religiously). I want him to have inner peace obviously.

But if the pastor tells him, "Gays are dirt in Satan's Navel" it's not exactly gonna help me assist Jason to strike the proper balance between being himself and a Christian.

 

[Marx]

Oh it's cool. I'm not angry at Jase in the least for wanting to go to Church. I understand his struggle because I've been where he is (albeit without the help of another man religiously). I want him to have inner peace obviously.

But if the pastor tells him, "Gays are dirt in Satan's Navel" it's not exactly gonna help me assist Jason to strike the proper balance between being himself and a Christian.

I know you don't have a problem with it. Afterall, I know you have struggled with the exact same thing. I just don't think that Jason is going to get the answers he deserves from a pastor that is likely going to beat him down. You know?

 

[Hound55]

Easiest way I see it is to have a rational conversation with him about the whole thing and see what comes of it.

*Stays as PC as possible*