Hard to beileve this use to fit....

[The Batman]

yeah, i gotta agree. explaining how he turned blue isnt freaking important. i dont remember in the comics hank having a five minute explaination when he came back to the x-men that he drank a potion and became blue....

 

[liamoversion2]

yeah, i gotta agree. explaining how he turned blue isnt freaking important. i dont remember in the comics hank having a five minute explaination when he came back to the x-men that he drank a potion and became blue....

I guess I would have overlooked it if the movie wasn't falling apart at the seams.

 

[BlazingBread]

How does the cameo affect his role in x3?

becomes

I know Hank wasnt always blue. But thats why i would have like some explanation in the movies, since the movies arnt intended to follow exaclty how the comics go. And i thought it would have been nice to know how the before and after took place.

 

[Cyke82]

X1:

Professor Xavier (regarding Scott, Storm and Jean): "They were SOME of my first students"...implying that he had others in the same class as them. Hank, perhaps?

Professor Xavier: "When they finish here, they can either go into the world as educated young men and women or stay here to teach others, become what the children affectionally call...X-men"

Students do leave the Xavier institute...Beast was one of them.

X3:

Professor Xavier: "You always have a home here, you're part of this place."

Beast: "This used to fit."

I'm pretty sure, based on the evidence the movies create, the writers INTENDED for people to believe Beast is a former X-man.

Agreed. I just assumed his time with the group was pre-X1, actually. Logan didn't know him, and Logan's been around through all three movies. Chances are when mutants like Cyclops, Jean, and Storm decided to stay around, Hank graduated and left to do his own things, such as grow fur and become part of a cabinet.

 

[liamoversion2]

I know Hank wasnt always blue. But thats why i would have like some explanation in the movies, since the movies arnt intended to follow exaclty how the comics go. And i thought it would have been nice to know how the before and after took place.

Yeah too true. Instead of just ignoring it. Shoddy workmanship.

 

[weatherwitch]

The problem here is that you've completely made up your own assumptions on here without any proof. There's no scene set up to assume that this Beast was an X-Men in human form. You can make your speculations all you want but it isn't any more fact than anyone else's theories. Simply, if it doesn't actually happen in the films, then you don't exactly know the writers' intentions.

And there is no proof that X2's Dr. Hank McCoy was anything more than a coincidental naming of character. Of all the flaws in all of the X-Men movies (#1 in particular) this is what people want to gripe on? C'mon.

Or, hell, "image inducer". I don't know about everyone on these boards but I don't need a plot spoon-fed to me. I can figure things out, make assumptions and piece together just fine. I'd hope the writers believe we're all capable of that, hence there is no need to babystep us through the films.

 

[Darthphere]

I know Hank wasnt always blue. But thats why i would have like some explanation in the movies, since the movies arnt intended to follow exaclty how the comics go. And i thought it would have been nice to know how the before and after took place.

What would it have changed if they did?

 

[SpHinX]

God, some people on this board look too much into things. It is obvious from X3 that the writers are implying that Hank use to be an X-Man back in the day. Forget the cameo in X2 that the general audience won't even take notice to unless it is pointed out to them. In my opinion, Singer laid out a crappy foundation in which Ratner had to build a house on. But that is just my useless opinion anyway

 

[X.M.D.]

Pyro had the similar problem and no one complained about it.
In X1 he looked like a 12 y.o. boy.
In X2, he looked like a 20 years old guy.

They changed COMPLETELY the look of the character.

 

[X-Maniac]

Yes, Kitty has now been played by three different actresses. Pyro has been played by two different actors. Yikes! How terrible!

Somehow, Beast changed between X2 and X3. And somehow we had a new president, a Dept of Mutant Affairs was set up and he was appointed to it. We didn't need to be spoon-fed the details of the information.

Most of the general public would not be aware of that X2 cameo. Those of us that are aware of it should be able to accept that he either experimented on himself, or was affected by Cerebro targeting mutants. This is the sort of detail that should go on the X3 website, or in the novelisation, or in magazine biogs.

 

[OldSkoolNWA]

Yes, Kitty has now been played by three different actresses. Pyro has been played by two different actors. Yikes! How terrible!

Somehow, Beast changed between X2 and X3. And somehow we had a new president, a Dept of Mutant Affairs was set up and he was appointed to it. We didn't need to be spoon-fed the details of the information.

Most of the general public would not be aware of that X2 cameo. Those of us that are aware of it should be able to accept that he either experimented on himself, or was affected by Cerebro targeting mutants. This is the sort of detail that should go on the X3 website, or in the novelisation, or in magazine biogs.

True.....but then that would be one less thing for people to whine about

 

[The_Sc0rpi0N]

the furball was bad ass in this film... i just wonder how singer's version would've been

 

[gambitarchangel]

And there is no proof that X2's Dr. Hank McCoy was anything more than a coincidental naming of character.

What the hell are you talking about? You actually think it's not the same character?? Good God....

And to the rest of you. The X2 cameo was for the fanboys nothing more, only they would have spot it. To the general public, X3 is really the first time they have ever seen Hank McCoy. And if you are a fan you shouldn't need an explaination anyway.

 

[wonderdallas]

Ok.

Beast shows up at the mansion = obviously knowing Xavier.

X saying "You are a part of this" = Hank has a history with the X-men

Storm says "I love what you've done to your hair." = an acknowledgment that he's changed. Plus the line about shedding on the furniture.

Happy to see Ororo = he's been around as long or longer than Storm

X assuming Hank is there about Erik = Hank was around before Erik became "Magneto".

Hank's comments to Logan = prior knowledge of Logan thru X.

"I can't believe this used to fit" = not that he's now furry, but that he's gotten alot older since he's last worn that suit.

It was clear to me and my buddies that Hank predates X1.

If Rogue can get a skunk stripe in a few seconds, Storm can cut her wig three times, Jean can get red extensions at the bottom of Alkali lake and the a new President can be elected, I can't imagine not understanding how Hank could get furry between X2 and X3.

Sure, I wish they had given more lines to the topic but that's my biggest complaint about every topic within X3.

 

[redlion2]

Wow, were people this upset when Storm had an accent in X-men 1 and mysteriously lost it in X2? Which btw, I'm glad she did.

 

[Matt]

the furball was bad ass in this film... i just wonder how singer's version would've been

Would've been not around or incapacitated while Wolverine fights all the villians.

 

[liamoversion2]

Storm says "I love what you've done to your hair." = an acknowledgment that he's changed. Plus the line about shedding on the furniture.

That proves absolutely nothing. It could also be argued that the comment about the hair had no depth and Storm was simply saying that she loved what he'd done with his hair. Terrible dialogue anyway.

And the line about shedding on the furniture... how does that prove anything? He said 'not everybody sheds on the furniture'.

 

[conan69]

In the movie verse being blue and furry is obviously part of his mutation or he wouldnt have changed when he got near Leech.

What do you need a explaination for? Does it really matter guys??

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

alright thinking about it, it doesn't add up...

simply because he reaction to seeing his hand when in the cell with leech was as if he hadn't seen it for a few decades, you couldn't put into words what it would be like for him to notice that again.

however if his transformation had only happened a few months prior then one wouldn't react that way, even rogue who is unable to touch people didn't overreact when she touched bobby for the first time, she didn't jump on him or kiss him, possibly because the mutation hadn't affected her for a long period of time, couple of years max.

if beast had only turned blue relatively recently, then his reaction to being around leech wouldn't had been anything near as euphoric as it was.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

on a flipside to this, judging by his size in teh second film, one can assume that he had the codename beast more about his mutant abilities rather than his actual aesthetic makeup, kinda like how cyclops actually doesn't have one eye.

so he was a human mutant with suped up tarzan abilities with the codename beast.

when he tried to cure himself he turned blue.

the non fitting comment may be referring to his beast like nature or simply the fact that he's gotten old and out of tip top shape.

there are reasons for and against this argument.

but at the end of the day it's bad practice to just throw characters in without seeing their previous envolvement. saying this, the point itself is minor in comparison to some of the other errors in the film.

 

[liamoversion2]

alright thinking about it, it doesn't add up...

simply because he reaction to seeing his hand when in the cell with leech was as if he hadn't seen it for a few decades, you couldn't put into words what it would be like for him to notice that again.

however if his transformation had only happened a few months prior then one wouldn't react that way, even rogue who is unable to touch people didn't overreact when she touched bobby for the first time, she didn't jump on him or kiss him, possibly because the mutation hadn't affected her for a long period of time, couple of years max.

if beast had only turned blue relatively recently, then his reaction to being around leech wouldn't had been anything near as euphoric as it was.

Well put.

 

[Darthphere]

alright thinking about it, it doesn't add up...

simply because he reaction to seeing his hand when in the cell with leech was as if he hadn't seen it for a few decades, you couldn't put into words what it would be like for him to notice that again.

however if his transformation had only happened a few months prior then one wouldn't react that way, even rogue who is unable to touch people didn't overreact when she touched bobby for the first time, she didn't jump on him or kiss him, possibly because the mutation hadn't affected her for a long period of time, couple of years max.

if beast had only turned blue relatively recently, then his reaction to being around leech wouldn't had been anything near as euphoric as it was.

I dont think so. Its a big change, like a burn victim or soemthing seeing an old picture of themself, they take it pretty hard a week or two after it happens. Ive had personal experience with this.

 

[liamoversion2]

I dont think so. Its a big change, like a burn victim or soemthing seeing an old picture of themself, they take it pretty hard a week or two after it happens. Ive had personal experience with this.

Bottom line, like so many other things in the movie, is that it wasn't addressed.

 

[Darthphere]

Bottom line, like so many other things in the movie, is that it wasn't addressed.

I agree with that. I just know from the comics that but in this movie we shouldnt have to assume he has a problem being blue and furry.

 

[Destiny Is Near]

well he was the original xmen team. so just an inside joke i guess