The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[ultimatefan]

I'm going to have to be the first one that says this idea sucks balls.

Don't go changing around stuff. The Joker should not have anything to do with Dent becoming Two Face and neither should Rachel.

This is the problem we had with the first Batman. Why change something when it already works. If It's not broken, don't fix it.

Batman Begins changed a lot of details from comics and it still worked and was true to the core elements. From the sound of it, Dent is still an attorney looking for Justice who gets scarred by a criminal, in court. That´s the most important. Even his origin had different approaches in comics. I mean, iniitially his only reason to be Two-Face was the scarring...

 

[ultimatefan]

Devin of Chud tries too hard to be so self-important. He can be funny, but he's the worst thing on that site. I really miss Nick..

His axe to grind attitude towards Begins made me give up on the site completely, and it looks like I haven´t missed much, given how little stuff seems to come from there. Nick left? One more reason.

 

[ultimatefan]

The "problem" we had with Begins and Batman were not even the same thing. Everything you just talked about didn't change the outcome of the film. It only added to it. Making the Joker the killer of Bruce Wayne parents changed the out come of the film. HE HAD TO DIE! It made the film more dramatic.

If the Joker is behind Dent getting scared, Two Face would wage no stop war against him. The Joker would do the same. THEY WOULD KILL EACH OTHER! Changing the outcome of the film.

Oh, your last statment is wrong by the way.

You know a lot about the outcome of the movie for someone who didn´t see it.

 

[Miranda Fox]

You know a lot about the outcome of the movie for someone who didn´t see it.

LOL!

 

[itsthebatman]

On another note, I'm so happy to be back here on the Batman boards, things are pretty chaotic over at Spider-Man 3, anyone seen what gamemiester has done?

What did he do?

 

[Two-Face]

This is great news, while Harvey trying to protect Rachel gets scard by The Joker? I hope it's Maroni that Dent's assistant gives like in TLH.

 

[The Only Woj]

Dude, you really have a complex about Rachel slapping people. You must have loved that scene in BB.

I love how Bale looks like he may punch her in the face after she tells him that his father would be ashamed

 

[bane]

my new Dent manip:

 

[Ceb-Man]

I really like the way this sounds. I looking to see Two-Face as I am The Joker in the new films.

 

[Leon the Professional]

Making the Joker the killer of Bruce Wayne parents changed the out come of the film. HE HAD TO DIE! It made the film more dramatic.

Joker did NOT have to die for it to be dramatic. Burton made a poor choice to have Joker be the killer of Bruce's parents, and he made another poor choice by having the Joker die instead of being put into Arkham.

Have you seen Minority Report? Tom Cruise's character finally finds the man who he believes kidnapped and killed his son years ago, maybe even sexually abused him, but he demonstrates the incredible willpower to arrest him instead of killing him. And that was a very dramatic scene.

(I'm not some big fan of Minority Report, it just came to mind.)

 

[jimmy]

This film is going to be glorious.

 

[itsthebatman]

Joker did NOT have to die for it to be dramatic. Burton made a poor choice to have Joker be the killer of Bruce's parents, and he made another poor choice by having the Joker die instead of being put into Arkham.

Have you seen Minority Report? Tom Cruise's character finally finds the man who he believes kidnapped and killed his son years ago, maybe even sexually abused him, but he demonstrates the incredible willpower to arrest him instead of killing him. And that was a very dramatic scene.

(I'm not some big fan of Minority Report, it just came to mind.)

Well, I think the main point is that Bats wouldn't kill, in any circimstances, even for personal vengeance, and B89 ignored that.

 

[The Only Woj]

Joker did NOT have to die for it to be dramatic. Burton made a poor choice to have Joker be the killer of Bruce's parents, and he made another poor choice by having the Joker die instead of being put into Arkham.

Have you seen Minority Report? Tom Cruise's character finally finds the man who he believes kidnapped and killed his son years ago, maybe even sexually abused him, but he demonstrates the incredible willpower to arrest him instead of killing him. And that was a very dramatic scene.

(I'm not some big fan of Minority Report, it just came to mind.)

Burton didn't have a ton of control. Seeing as the cathedral scene was largely Jon Peters', I wouldn't be surprised if it was his doing

 

[TheBat812]

it would be great if you made the change more subtle and organic.

 

[Mac_Hine]

That's pretty good there Bane. Good job.

 

[StorminNorman]

I was wondering that myself. Peppermint or Earl Grey. 'Make it so'.

You know that type of tea that everyone loves?

Yea, its not that.

 

[ghost_x]

tis good

 

[Nina7]

Devin of Chud tries too hard to be so self-important. He can be funny, but he's the worst thing on that site. I really miss Nick..

God, so much word to your post.

What? Nick's gone? Now there's absolutely no reason to go on that site.

 

[CConn]

Well, I think the main point is that Bats wouldn't kill, in any circimstances, even for personal vengeance, and B89 ignored that.

Batman didn't kill the Joker in B89. At least, not outright.

 

[Cristo]

And, guess what else? It's revealed in the Dark Knight that the Joker made Chill testify for the murder of Wayne's parents when he was really Chill in disguise all along! The ultimate joke is going to be on Bruce!

Isn't that cool?

 

[LadyVader]

my new Dent manip:

"It's curtains for you, Batman. Curtains!"

 

[Assassin]

i have to say...Nolan has a nack for casting...


Batman - Bale
Alfred - Caine
Ducard/Ra's - Neeson
Ra's decoy - Watanabe
Scarecrow - Murphy
Falcone - Wilkinson
Fox - Freeman
Gordon - Oldman

the only casting i didn't like Holmes and she's now replaced with the infinitely better Maggie Gyllenhaal and we also have Ledger as Joker and Eckhart as Dent.

the only thing that would be anymore perfect than who's already cast would be Jolie as Catwoman.....omg!

Thats a joke right? ****, tell me you're joking.

 

[Octoberist]

God, so much word to your post.

What? Nick's gone? Now there's absolutely no reason to go on that site.

Nick is not officially gone. He still does SOME articles here and there, but pretty much, the mantle has been pass down to Devin. If you noticed, it's mostly Devin now anyway.

Nick has his other site that he's working on now, along with producing "Meg" the movie.

 

[TripXyDE]

but still, it could be possible for them to have been childhood friends

 

[ghost_x]

I really wouldn't like to see Jolie as catwoman. I like to see actors who you wouldn't think of for the role, they always bring the most interesting performances. This is why I'm so excited to see what ledger's going to do