Harvey Dent/Two-Face Thread

[Eddie Dean]

Maybe Albert Brooks could be a good Two-Face

 

[DeadlyWest]

Maybe Albert Brooks could be a good Two-Face

I'd actually peg him as my Maroni fancast, honestly. It's hard to say any specific names just because I don't know which ones call pull both Harvey and Two Face off. But if there are any? I hope it's them

 

[shauner111]

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

As others have said, I'd prefer a Harvey Dent that is a character throughout (presumably) this new series of films. I always thought if Dent were Rachel Dawes (although I understand the need for a love interest I guess) then his fall from grace and death in TDK would've been even more powerful.

It’s an unpopular opinion, but Rachel Dawes is a poor use of screen time that should have been rewritten as a character from the comics or just removed entirely. In my opinion, too much screen time was given to a character that doesn’t exist in the comics or in any other media. I also didn’t need a love triangle with Harvey, Bruce and Rachel. You could restructure that franchise a bit to maintain the emotional urgency that Rachel’s death brought. This can be achieved with other characters like Gilda Dent.

They could have set up Harvey instead of Finch and Selina instead of Rachel in Begins. Selina’s presence would have fit with the emphasis on Falcone. I enjoyed the Bruce/Selina dynamic in Gotham where they knew each other as kids, and they could have done something similar in Begins. Nolan had so many minor characters in his movies too that with a few rewrites could have provided opportunities for characters from the comics. That sort of fidelity to the source material is something I’m looking forward to in Reeves’ films.

Nolan’s films were unquestionably faithful to much of the comics, but it had too much focus on characters that only existed in the Nolanverse for my taste. I am excited for how ambitious this expansive new Reeves universe appears to be. They’re going all in, with enthusiasm and depth of appreciation of the vast source material. Reeves’ enthusiasm for the character as a fan is what is really exciting me and what will set it apart from Nolan’s films. Nolan appreciated aspects of Batman but didn’t fanboy out like Reeves appears to, and that’s what excites me.

 

[shauner111]

It's different medium and there will always be made up characters in the movies. This trilogy will be no different, with Bella Real, Savage, Colson. I'm sure there will be more originals in the sequels and all the spin offs will probably have more made up characters than ones from the source material. It's an adaptation but writers want to create just as much as they want to adapt.

 

[Boom]

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

Literally the only thing working against Abbott is he might be a bit young for a DA.

 

[Eddie Dean]

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

was he in star wars or spiderman i only watch those movies

 

[shauner111]

Literally the only thing working against Abbott is he might be a bit young for a DA.

He's the same age as Rob. By the time he'd play this character, he'd be 38 years old. Aaron Eckhart was 39 while shooting TDK. Dent is supposed to be the youngest DA in the history of Gotham. Pretty sure he's supposed to be like late 20's or early 30's when that happens so it's all good.

 

[Lautox]

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

I know him from James White

 

[DKDetective]

May I humbly suggest Jonathan Groff:

He's got that WASPy, All-American look, and can be good guy charming (Frozen), but he can definitely put on an edge and play malevolent. He was one of my favourite parts of the mixed bag that was The Matrix Ressurections.

 

[Eddie Dean]

 

[Boom]

Trevante Rhodes.

 

[Lautox]

What do you think of Joe Alwyn for dent role? He is the guy that replaced Rob in The Stars at Noon

 

[C Prometheus]

It's different medium and there will always be made up characters in the movies. This trilogy will be no different, with Bella Real, Savage, Colson. I'm sure there will be more originals in the sequels and all the spin offs will probably have more made up characters than ones from the source material. It's an adaptation but writers want to create just as much as they want to adapt.

Pete Savage is actually a name that goes back all the way to the Adam West show, though it's kind of obvious that this version is basically a relabeled version of Commissioner Loeb. Bella Real is a new original character, but I believe Colson is loosely based on another D.A. character that briefly popped up in BTAS with a slightly different name, much like what happened with Daggett in Rises.

May I humbly suggest Jonathan Groff:

He's got that WASPy, All-American look, and can be good guy charming (Frozen), but he can definitely put on an edge and play malevolent. He was one of my favourite parts of the mixed bag that was The Matrix Ressurections.

I really like this fan-cast. It makes a ton of sense to me.

That said-

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

This is the best fan-cast out there for the part IMO. Not sure how likely it is though.

 

[Art Vandelay]

It baffles me that there’s only like 2 ppl here who know who Abbott is.

Going through his film resume, I'm not seeing much in the way of mainstream work.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Girls was the biggest show on TV

 

[shauner111]

Going through his film resume, I'm not seeing much in the way of mainstream work.

Perfect.

 

[antsman41]

Girls was the biggest show on TV

CHARLIE.

 

[godisawesome]

It’s an unpopular opinion, but Rachel Dawes is a poor use of screen time that should have been rewritten as a character from the comics or just removed entirely. In my opinion, too much screen time was given to a character that doesn’t exist in the comics or in any other media. I also didn’t need a love triangle with Harvey, Bruce and Rachel. You could restructure that franchise a bit to maintain the emotional urgency that Rachel’s death brought. This can be achieved with other characters like Gilda Dent.

They could have set up Harvey instead of Finch and Selina instead of Rachel in Begins. Selina’s presence would have fit with the emphasis on Falcone. I enjoyed the Bruce/Selina dynamic in Gotham where they knew each other as kids, and they could have done something similar in Begins. Nolan had so many minor characters in his movies too that with a few rewrites could have provided opportunities for characters from the comics. That sort of fidelity to the source material is something I’m looking forward to in Reeves’ films.

Nolan’s films were unquestionably faithful to much of the comics, but it had too much focus on characters that only existed in the Nolanverse for my taste. I am excited for how ambitious this expansive new Reeves universe appears to be. They’re going all in, with enthusiasm and depth of appreciation of the vast source material. Reeves’ enthusiasm for the character as a fan is what is really exciting me and what will set it apart from Nolan’s films. Nolan appreciated aspects of Batman but didn’t fanboy out like Reeves appears to, and that’s what excites me.

Dawes wound up being more an assortment of narrative functions than a real character, though Nolan and co. at least had a competent (if *only* competent) execution of her functions. I think she began as the “obligatory love interest played by a name female star” like Chase Meridian in Batman Forever, and the simply morphed into a handy tool for tragedy.

It’s not so much “fidelity to the comics” that I think makes Reeves’ material look better right now, as much as it seems to be more “explosive” use of assets - if a character isn’t a one-off or doesn’t have to be a one-off, Reeves is more likely to *both* apply a well-known asset *and* make sure that asset is deployed so that they can be exploited later.

Like, Nolan did a good job with most of his own-off characters; Gambol is a great example of that. And he had no problem sticking comic characters into some one-off roles too, like Zsasz and Maroni… but they remained largely one-off roles.

Penguin feels like he might be an example where Reeves needed a lieutenant of Falcone for Batman to interrogate, and realized that Penguin could both fill that role, and have a quiet, background arc of rising himself.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think Denzel Washington would be a legendary Two Face.

He is a master at playing both heroes and villains.

Please, Matt Reeves. Please make it happen.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Two-Face at the nursing home maybe

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Denzel for American Freeze (prefer a European actor like Schwarzenegger or Preminger) or Darkseid

 

[shauner111]

I think Denzel Washington would be a legendary Two Face.

He is a master at playing both heroes and villains.

Please, Matt Reeves. Please make it happen.

Way too old.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Denzel as Two-Face by Bermejo (this was from before TDK, and submitted for BOF iirc)



He would have been great but alas, he is too old. He could play Lucius, Mister Freeze, Deathstroke, Vandal Savage, Anti-Monitor, Trigon, Mongul, Despero, or Darkseid.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Here’s an interesting thought that I had. Let’s look at Two-Face as two different people. Who would you use as a grounding inspiration for Harvey and who would you use as an inspiration for Two-Face (bad Harvey)?

Also, would you give “bad Harvey” his own name previous to reinventing himself as Two-Face?