The Dark Knight Heath Ledger Joker figure

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Mr. Socko said:
The Killing Joke was also worthy of being made. If anyone thinks Joker never needs a backstory that's fine but TKJ is arguably the most influential Batman comic featuring the Joker ever printed. You cannot deny what it did to the character, he wouldn't even be as famous amoung the comic book community if it weren't for TKJ, which presents a possible origin for the character. And it's actually not my favorite Joker origin, but it was great nonetheless and certainly didn't hurt the character.
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Let me rephrase it, because I fear I have the "origin-of-Joker hater" label on me now.
I'd die of joy if they ever announced a TKJ type of story on film.
I'm just saying that after knowing Joker for many years (through comics, TAS etc), I didn't crave to see how he came to be. B89 gave us a standard origin, fine, it didn't leave me space to crave or not want his origin.

But in SW, I wanted to see more of the man who grabbed the Emperor like his little b**ch and threw him to the reactor. Even since I was 8 (that's when I finished seeing the OT).
 
Gianakin_ said:
Excuse me, have you ever seen the originals? I mean... really seen them. They're goofy and campy as hell. If nothing else, the overall plot of the Prequels is tons darker than the one from the OT.

And, by the response and expectations of the fans after the end of the OT, the Prequels were warranted.
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i agree, the originals had there moments, but not NEARLY as much as the prequels. the ewoks and some lines by han are the only "corny" things about the OT. the prequels though, make the OT look like shakespeare. thats how bad they are.


and yeah, the fans were curious and they may have wanted the prequels....but they were not what they expected. many fans are dissapointed, not because of super high expectations (although that probably is partly to blame), but because they are genuinly BAD movies. ROTS may have been a bit darker, but it still had elements of camp and lightheartedness that still kept it cartoony and silly. the prequels just didnt work. of course they have its fans, but noone really mentions them because ppl know they are bad. in a way, just as crappy as batman and robin, in terms of quality.
 
GoogleMe94 said:
as for ledgers "corny" joker lines, um, thats always been with the character. every batman villian (other then the Begins villians) has had silly, campy one liners, and joker as we all know is the KING of that. so its just natural, nothing odd.
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Um, no, not really
 
Googleme:
1.They are not genuinely bad, it's your opinion. I find them masterful.
2.My original point was that THE FANS WANTED THEM, SO THE PT WAS WARRANTED! Why are you trying to change the subject back to their quality?
3.The Originals are exactly as silly as the Prequels, dare I say a bit more. Take the OT DVDs from their pedestal (where they certainly deserve to be) and watch them again. EVERY character, even Vader, get silly.
 
Gianakin_ said:
Let me rephrase it, because I fear I have the "origin-of-Joker hater" label on me now.
I'd die of joy if they ever announced a TKJ type of story on film.
I'm just saying that after knowing Joker for many years (through comics, TAS etc), I didn't crave to see how he came to be. B89 gave us a standard origin, fine, it didn't leave me space to crave or not want his origin.

But in SW, I wanted to see more of the man who grabbed the Emperor like his little b**ch and threw him to the reactor. Even since I was 8 (that's when I finished seeing the OT).
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No prob, I see what you're saying:up:

I just dislike when people put down stuff in the comics to get across changes for the film. And not solely, but it is mostly for Nolan's changes.

-He decides not to give the Joker a backstory(even a good decision imo). So now people feel the need to put down origin stories in the comics and say how Joker should never have one, just to put Nolan's decision over. I personally think origin or no origin, both can work great depending on how it's done.

-Nolan gives the Joker a darker look complete with scarred smile and dirtier clothes, therefore people now need to put down the more colorful comic book look and label it as 'lame and corny'

- And not just Nolan, but the director's that came before him, Burton and Schumacher, decide to place Batman in a black rubber suit. So people now start saying how sucky the grey look is in the comics.

My point is, there's no reason to put down the classic works just to put over the new stuff. Even if you do prefer the changes in the film, I expect those to respect the comic book stuff if they're really Batman fans. And what makes a "real Batman fan" is something I hardly ever bring up, but one thing I do expect all Batman fans to do is at least respect the original stuff.
 
Mr. Socko said:
No prob, I see what you're saying:up:

I just dislike when people put down stuff in the comics to get across changes for the film. And not solely, but it is mostly for Nolan's changes.

-He decides not to give the Joker a backstory(even a good decision imo). So now people feel the need to put down origin stories in the comics and say how Joker should never have one, just to put Nolan's decision over. I personally think origin or no origin, both can work great depending on how it's done.

-Nolan gives the Joker a darker look complete with scarred smile and dirtier clothes, therefore people now need to put down the more colorful comic book look and label it as 'lame and corny'

- And not just Nolan, but the director's that came before him, Burton and Schumacher, decide to place Batman in a black rubber suit. So people now start saying how sucky the grey look is in the comics.

My point is, there's no reason to put down the classic works just to put over the new stuff. Even if you do prefer the changes in the film, I expect those to respect the comic book stuff if they're really Batman fans. And what makes a "real Batman fan" is something I hardly ever bring up, but one thing I do expect all Batman fans to do is at least respect the original stuff.
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I agree with this. I'm also glad my opinion is clearer to you.
 
Mr. Socko said:
No prob, I see what you're saying:up:

I just dislike when people put down stuff in the comics to get across changes for the film. And not solely, but it is mostly for Nolan's changes.

-He decides not to give the Joker a backstory(even a good decision imo). So now people feel the need to put down origin stories in the comics and say how Joker should never have one, just to put Nolan's decision over. I personally think origin or no origin, both can work great depending on how it's done.

-Nolan gives the Joker a darker look complete with scarred smile and dirtier clothes, therefore people now need to put down the more colorful comic book look and label it as 'lame and corny'

- And not just Nolan, but the director's that came before him, Burton and Schumacher, decide to place Batman in a black rubber suit. So people now start saying how sucky the grey look is in the comics.

My point is, there's no reason to put down the classic works just to put over the new stuff. Even if you do prefer the changes in the film, I expect those to respect the comic book stuff if they're really Batman fans. And what makes a "real Batman fan" is something I hardly ever bring up, but one thing I do expect all Batman fans to do is at least respect the original stuff.
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I too hate the mindset of putting down something else to try and elevate what you are supporting. I love The Joker of the comics. I love that Joker...and I'm also loving this take on The Joker for "The Dark Knight". We don't have to "pick a side". We're allowed to recognise both interpretations of The Joker as different, but both compelling in their own way.
 
Keyser Soze said:
I too hate the mindset of putting down something else to try and elevate what you are supporting. I love The Joker of the comics. I love that Joker...and I'm also loving this take on The Joker for "The Dark Knight". We don't have to "pick a side". We're allowed to recognise both interpretations of The Joker as different, but both compelling in their own way.
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This is how I feel, I love seeing different versions and interpretations of characters, it keeps it interesting and dosent get boring.
 
whoa, that is a gross mask. that smile looks spray painted on lol.
 
that thing looks like an old lady. is it me or does he have a grill on lol..

edit.. nevermind its just the teeth from the mask i belive, it really looked like a grill tho haha
 
why get the mask when you can just as easily paint yourself? its for lazy ppl, lol
 
GoogleMe94 said:
why get the mask when you can just as easily paint yourself? its for lazy ppl, lol
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True that. It may take a little more time and effort, but actually putting paint on looks so much better.
 
regwec said:
Nolan's Joker is an off-the-rack "bad guy" who does bad things because he's bad. He may as well be wearing a purple coat and sloppy facepaint for licensing reasons, and to make the action figure more attractive to children. He espouses painfully hackneyed clown references like "why so serious?" and "let's put a smile on that face" which recall Arnold's endless "cold" puns in Batman and Robin. He is more of a plagarism than an adaptation of The Joker from the comics, because the character has been written as a man who merely wears the "Joker identity" for effect.

The most interesting things about him are his socks.
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I could respect your opinion if you based that on Heath's performance in the film. Not a 2 minute trailer of which some of the material may not even make it to the film.

No need to build hatred against something that you know little about at this point in the game.
 
BobDylan said:
here is the first picture of the dark knight Joker Figure.
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be still my beating heart :wow:

These figures are mine
 
Joker said:
Actually, it is the fact that he becomes permanently disfigured that drives Joker over the edge to become a sick, twisted, murderous clown. All of his various origin stories show him as a different person prior to becoming a permawhite clown.

Even those that show him as a criminal. So, his behaviour stems from his disfiguring. It affects his psyche. Just like with Two Face.
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I disagree the perma-white skins is one of the reason he became who he is. Wasn't he having some kind of nervous breakdown with the money problem, being a failed comedian, the death of his wife & unborn baby, etc.? While he might have gone insane from the chemical bath, but I think the other problem before done that more than the perma-white skins. But for all we know, it might not be why he went insane in the first place. In fact, his origin in TKJ might not be true. After all, he said "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice.".

And Two-Face didn't became who he was just because he was scarred. He was starting to have a little bit of the evil personality before he was scarred. It wasn't until he was scarred, that his evil personality is free & he became Two-Face. It just like normal people who are scarred. Many never lose their sanity, but the reason it happend to Two-Face is from Dent's evil personality being finally free as I said. Of course that just IMHO.
 
Nightwing1977 said:
I disagree the perma-white skins is one of the reason he became who he is. Wasn't he having some kind of nervous breakdown with the money problem, being a failed comedian, the death of his wife & unborn baby, etc.? While he might have gone insane from the chemical bath, but I think the other problem before done that more than the perma-white skins. But for all we know, it might not be why he went insane in the first place. In fact, his origin in TKJ might not be true. After all, he said "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice.".

And Two-Face didn't became who he was just because he was scarred. He was starting to have a little bit of the evil personality before he was scarred. It wasn't until he was scarred, that his evil personality is free & he became Two-Face. It just like normal people who are scarred. Many never lose their sanity, but the reason it happend to Two-Face is from Dent's evil personality being finally free as I said. Of course that just IMHO.
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we can argue this till the cows come home. we can all have our opions and theories and ideas, but all it really breaks down to is the joker is one of the greatest villains of all time, and his origin is a mystery even to him, thats the way bob kane wanted it.
 
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