Justice League Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - Part 1

[BlueLanternKal]

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[Herolee10]

So do you guys think that by the time JL comes out, it'll feel like we've already gotten somewhat of an unconventional trilogy featuring Superman? I'm curious to see on how it'll look and feel upon watching MOS, BvS, and JL together.

 

[TheRedWraith]

So do you guys think that by the time JL comes out, it'll feel like we've already gotten somewhat of an unconventional trilogy featuring Superman? I'm curious to see on how it'll look and feel upon watching MOS, BvS, and JL together.

Well, just going off of MoS and BvS:UE at this point, I would say it already feels like 2/3s of a trilogy, so I can't wait to get BvS (Ultimate Edition) and Justice League so I can watch them back to back at some point.

 

[Polux]

Well, going from just MoS and BvS at this point, I would say it already feels like 2/3s of a trilogy, so I can't wait to get BvS (Ultimate Edition) and Justice League so I can watch them back to back at some point.

Watching the Ultimate cut, it totally feels (to me) like 2/3 of a trilogy, since the UC is Superman's film through and through...

Just my humble opinion, of course...

Polux

 

[AnneFan]

Watching the Ultimate cut, it totally feels (to me) like 2/3 of a trilogy, since the UC is Superman's film through and through...

Just my humble opinion, of course...

Polux

I agree, totally. It feels more balanced between Superman and Batman. And Superman really drives the story. He's at the heart of it. So that helps things too. I hope JL has dream like sequences leading up to Clark returning, showing him in 'purgatory'. Giving him a presence even when he's not yet resurrected. I think that would work well.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I agree, totally. It feels more balanced between Superman and Batman. And Superman really drives the story. He's at the heart of it. So that helps things too. I hope JL has dream like sequences leading up to Clark returning, showing him in 'purgatory'. Giving him a presence even when he's not yet resurrected. I think that would work well.

It would let them bring back Kevin Costner again, as his scene in BvS was great and a real tearjerker. I think it would be nice to see Jor-el and Lara but I think that would undercut the message of him accepting earth as his world as well as him barely knowing them. I actually like an idea put forth by someone on this board before that he could be in an idyllic dream world that he has to leave behind, similar to "For the Man who has Everything".

 

[Verick808]

I'd like him to see all of his lost parents. A Christmas Carol style.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I'd like him to see all of his lost parents. A Christmas Carol style.

Well a way to show the Kryptonian parents could be have both sets alive with Clark living with and married to Lois on an earth where Earth and Krypton were allies who had forged a friendly alliance with some of the technology donated and shared having allowed Lois and Clark to have a son or daughter maybe they have two kids with Lois Pregnant with a third on the way, and they have a dog and Clark can be Superman with little stress as he is fully accepted and lauded while his job is made easier by governments having Kryptonian technology and crime becoming nearly non existent so all he would be doing is helping in natural disasters.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I agree, totally. It feels more balanced between Superman and Batman. And Superman really drives the story. He's at the heart of it. So that helps things too. I hope JL has dream like sequences leading up to Clark returning, showing him in 'purgatory'. Giving him a presence even when he's not yet resurrected. I think that would work well.

It would let them bring back Kevin Costner again, as his scene in BvS was great and a real tearjerker. I think it would be nice to see Jor-el and Lara but I think that would undercut the message of him accepting earth as his world as well as him barely knowing them. I actually like an idea put forth by someone on this board before that he could be in an idyllic dream world that he has to leave behind, similar to "For the Man who has Everything".

Yeah it would be great to get something like that. I am currently re-reading A World Without Superman and am near the end when Jonathan is fighting for his life and is trying to bring Clark back with him, something like that with Clark begging for Jonathan to come back with him could be really emotional stuff.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I like how JLU did it. He was on Krypton with his biological parents who had his adoptive parents' personalities and a wife that was an amalgam of Lois and Lana. His son was basically a younger version of himself. And he was a scientist investigating seismic activity in Krypton's core.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I like how JLU did it. He was on Krypton with his biological parents who had his adoptive parents' personalities and a wife that was an amalgam of Lois and Lana. His son was basically a younger version of himself. And he was a scientist investigating seismic activity in Krypton's core.

That would be interesting as well, could be a bit like Godfall.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I like how JLU did it. He was on Krypton with his biological parents who had his adoptive parents' personalities and a wife that was an amalgam of Lois and Lana. His son was basically a younger version of himself. And he was a scientist investigating seismic activity in Krypton's core.

In JLU he was a farmer like his adoptive parents and his father, Jor-El was the well respected scientist who had been studying tremblers/earthquakes they were visiting because Kal's son was much more interested in science than in farming.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

In JLU he was a farmer like his adoptive parents and his father, Jor-El was the well respected scientist who had been studying tremblers/earthquakes.

Right, my bad.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Right, my bad.

But yeah that scene on the roof when he has to let go of Van is another tearjerker involving superman.

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leaving a very satisfied feeling when he lays a smackdown on Mongul

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[BlueLanternKal]

But yeah that scene on the roof when he has to let go of Van is another tearjerker involving superman.

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You aren't kidding.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I think if they do a fantasy like what I described then when he is reunited at the end of the film with Lois and Martha we will feel it all the more in the moment.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I'd also like to eventually see Clark and Lois have a child and start a family outside of a dream sequence either through Kryptonian technology or adoption.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I guess. I proposed a long while back that Lois take command of the scout ship after Kelor goes looking for Supes and her. IMO busting out of the grave... I just don't like it. I'd prefer Supes' resurrection be a combination of the Scout Ship, Kelor's AI programming, and the Codex in his DNA.

Whether Martha and Lois are there in the Scout Ship in the arctic is I dunno. Lois sure, because there's a lot of precedent for Supes taking her to the FOS, but not his Earth Parents. You know what I mean? To Martha and John he's their human son who just happened to come from outer space. The FOS represents his Kryptonian heritage while Ma and Pa represents his humanity. Those ideas clash/coordinate better when they're coming from within the character.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I guess. I proposed a long while back that Lois take command of the scout ship after Kelor goes looking for Supes and her. IMO busting out of the grave... I just don't like it. I'd prefer Supes' resurrection be a combination of the Scout Ship, Kelor's AI programming, and the Codex in his DNA.

Whether Martha and Lois are there in the Scout Ship in the arctic is I dunno. Lois sure, because there's a lot of precedent for Supes taking her to the FOS, but not his Earth Parents. You know what I mean. To Martha and Jon he's their human son who just happened to come from outer space. The FOS represents his Kryptonian heritage while Ma and Pa represents his humanity. Those ideas clash/coordinate better when they're coming from within the character.

I don't mean they are present at his resurrection I mean he reunites with them at the end of the film after the final battle in the resolution.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I'd also like to eventually see Clark and Lois have a child and start a family outside of a dream sequence either through Kryptonian technology or adoption.

Yeah definitely. Jon S. Kent would be a cool character to bring into the DCEU, but that won't be for a while. And yeah, I want the kid to be a Human/Kryptonian hybrid like the comics. I think the long term plan for the DCEU is to end with Kingdom Come. If that's the case there are still lots of storytelling possibilities between now and then.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I don't mean they are present at his resurrection I mean he reunites with them at the end of the film after the final battle in the resolution.

Ok cool.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I don't think they really have an "end" in sight, I think just like Marvel they'll keep going as long as they keep making money.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

If they were to "end" Kingdom Come would be the adaptation to end it with. They can't go on forever even if it continues making $$ a decade+. Actors, writers, and directors will want to move on eventually and WB should give DC a break before rebooting.

 

[TheRedWraith]

They could easily just get successor characters to continue it, but yes eventually they would probably have to end it and Kingdom come would be as good a note as any to end it on.

 

[Black Narcissus]