BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Quasimod0]

I'll respectfully disagree In every way I might add, lol. I'll go into more depth as to why maybe a little later on, but givin' the context of each and every situation Superman was in, I thought he became more and more likeable. Really seeing the why of his story arc makes me smile.

Hey that's fine man. I really am glad you found him likeable and enjoyed the film.

To me, his actions were all very noble, but because I still have never really warmed up to the character, it all felt a bit empty.
I will say that I liked how he was trying to reason things out with Bruce without resorting to violence, at least for a little bit.

 

[Andreth]

The anecdote about Jonathan saving his farm but accidentally causing a flood at the Lang's, killing their horses and livestock. He was inconsolable until Martha helped him recover. That's where "Martha was my world" came in. She was his rock and he wouldn't have done it without her.

The line is repeated twice by Clark, in the Knightmare sequence and Doomsday fight. Snyder's planting clear seeds here.

The worst part is that

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Pa Kent mentions that he used to hear the sound of the dying horses in his head all the time. And that only Martha was the one hat made the sounds stop. And then he adds "She was my world"

The same line repeated over and over about Lois.

Like foreshadowing that he'd lose his mind without her.

Some people are saying it's lazy storyline, , bla bla bla, it serves no purpose. But all the signs are there.

Even the

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freaking engagement ring! this happens when they're married

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Superman tells batman in that "nightmare"
"She was my world and you took her away from me", In injustice Superman blames Batman for her death the most for not killing the joker when he had the chance.

 

[Tra-El]

Though the signs are there, but I'm trying hard to connect it in such a way that it would benefit anything that was set up in BvS when it came to his arc. What I like about Snyder is that he uses references from the comics, but he doesn't necessarily follow through on most of the things as far as storylines go. Injustice could be a thing, but it could not possibly be NOT that specific thing. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. He's good at changing things up just a tad to make it work into his story that makes sense.

 

[Andreth]

The only way I could remotely accept Injustice a little bit is if it's sort of like the videogame, where they're in another universe and crazy evil superman(obsessed with Lois and who wants to bring her back into his world) fights our dear superman, and Superman kicks his ass. Lois is still alive and happy.


OK, we better not talk about that anymore, I don't wanna get depressed or make other sad.

Henry looked hot i like him better as Clark Kent

 

[sf2]

Henry is the superman. Salute to him. Reeve superman is superficial. Cavill superman has flesh n blood... 2nd viewing make me really wanna cry when I see clearly what he did to save us.

 

[Tra-El]

Henry is my Superman. Period. Chris will forever be in everyone's hearts as Superman, but Henry has become my Superman. I was born in 1988 and grew up on Reeve after the fact...but Henry is cemented for me.

 

[Herolee10]

To Quote Henry's Superman....

"All this time I thought Zack Snyder was going to do good with BvS. But Superman was never real. It was just the dream of us fanboys hoping for something better"

 

[Tra-El]

To end my posting for the night, Superman was the most real he's EVER been. Night HYPE. Keep on geekin' on!

 

[sf2]

To end my posting for the night, Superman was the most real he's EVER been. Night HYPE. Keep on geekin' on!

I know u will love it. The best superman movie ever made, agree?
Btw. I'm hardcore reeve sup fan.

 

[Tra-El]

I know u will love it. The best superman movie ever made, agree?
Btw. I'm hardcore reeve sup fan.

I'm a diehard Superman fan and I look to ANY medium of Superman to get my Kal-EL fix. IMO, and it's just ME people, but I thought this was a loud and proud Superman story and one of the best showings of representations of the character you can get. I connected REALLY well to it when I was going to think otherwise. This was a revelation from somebody expecting the worst. I stand pat by it too. I couldn't be more thorough in my views.

 

[Herolee10]

Personally, I think one way people will feel a little bit more relaxed is if Snyder (assuming if his gritty ass is still attached to the film) releases an official shot of the JL together, with Superman in it, preferably smiling.

And just to clarify with everyone else, I'm not concerned at all about what goes on with Superman in BvS. I've already found closure with it awhile back (last week as a matter of fact).

My BIGGEST and REAL ISSUE has ALWAYS been on HOW Superman will be used in JL. That's the only thing that matters to me.

If Snyder can have Superman placed in a leadership/inspiring role in the group, without him being turned evil, and allow him and Lois to have a happy ending in that film at least, then I could care less on anything else.

But I've learned enough by now to exactly hope for the best from Snyder. If Snyder can at least use Superman in JL where people aren't divided about that, then I'll be impressed.

 

[sf2]

Just enjoy BvS n don't think of JL.

In synder we trust.

 

[Herolee10]

Just enjoy BvS n don't think of JL.

In synder we trust.

JL is pretty much the whole point for a shared universe..to see these characters come together and work to accomplish an single goal as one unit.

If Snyder can't get that right on Superman's end with the JL, then it defeats the purpose.

You may as well keep him dead if Snyder can't use him properly for the JL. And I have no interest in getting invested in a superman that's just going to be mishandled in the next film.

 

[Consona]

In Snyder we trust.

*corrected the typo* t:

But hell yea! I love that Snyder does bold, unconventional, for a lot of people weird and debatable moves, with these characters and DC films in general. I hope he and DC will not shy away from these moves because of silly critics and that we will get some more of this style. I like the freshness it brings. Maybe a lot of people do not like it, I'm one who does. I loved Man of Steel and BvS too. Don't play it safe Snyder! But do what makes sense, story-wise, character-wise in this cinematic universe, of course, but do not play it safe! t:

 

[hopefuldreamer]

JL is pretty much the whole point for a shared universe..to see these characters come together and work to accomplish an single goal as one unit.

If Snyder can't get that right on Superman's end with the JL, then it defeats the purpose.

You may as well keep him dead if Snyder can't use him properly for the JL. And I have no interest in getting invested in a superman that's just going to be mishandled in the next film.

The trick? Don't get invested.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

*corrected the typo* t:

But hell yea! I love that Snyder does bold, unconventional, for a lot of people weird and debatable moves, with these characters and DC films in general. I hope he and DC will not shy away from these moves because of silly critics and that we will get some more of this style. I like the freshness it brings. Maybe a lot of people do not like it, I'm one who does. I loved Man of Steel and BvS too. Don't play it safe Snyder! But do what makes sense, story-wise, character-wise in this cinematic universe, of course, but do not play it safe! t:

So it's either play it safe or make dark depressing poorly put together Superhero movies that feature heroes that do things that make them hard to root for?

There is a middle ground between Marvel's predictable often obnoxious joke a minute ******** and DC poorly constructed movies with funeral tones.

 

[Marz69]

Its sad that Henry Cavill is more like Superman in interviews where he talks about playing Superman - than in the movies where he actually plays Superman.

This is the directing & storyline they keep putting him in. I haven't seen BvS, but from the comments it seems he doesn't have much to smile about. Cavill is perfect as clark/superman. The scene in MOS where he smiles about the "S" with Lois was perfect. But if he's told to be angry & sad, it's really difficult for his charisma to shine.

They're wasting him. And it's messed up that people think Cavill can't be charismatic because of how his character is written. If you switch cavill & reeve people would be complaining in reverse about reeve being to dark. I like MOS and was fine with a lost clark, but it's time for him to step into the light

 

[Marz69]

I think I just got spoiled. Holy bleep.

 

[sf2]

Btw I can't believe people complain about cavill being wooden. The range of emotions he presented was marvelous. The pain of physical n mental... wow.
And I found Ben isn't good as compare. Only 1 expression. Well.. batman... people concern more of his killing. Pure stupid.
And Jesse is gold... His expression ... the emotion... A truly maniac.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Cavill isn't wooden, he is being directed to have no personality. He has been betrayed by his director.

 

[bholliday]

Cavill is going to end up the way of Andrew Garfield:

Beyond perfect for the role, but stuck with a studio and director that just doesn't understand what to do with the character.

All the BS from fan screenings about him being the heart of the film. Crap. Absolute crap.

He has no arc and feels totally detached from the narrative. God I hated this.

 

[sf2]

And the smile he gives at the end is so sincere n innocent. It pains me greatly.

 

[sf2]

Cavill isn't wooden, he is being directed to have no personality. He has been betrayed by his director.

No personality? More to reeve sup. He is just the godlike superman.
N if u can't accept farm boy clark Kent is real n superman is just a fake... u might have issue with this movie.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Goddamnit.

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I'll expand on this is in a full review, but unfortunately, the movie played out as I feared it would. Henry does a great job, but sadly, he isn't given enough to do. I never really put much stock in the "lack of dialogue" complaints about MOS, because most of the scenes where his dialogue is sparse are ones where he's off on his own. But here, there are multiple scenes where he swoops in, says next to nothing, and then we need to get back to Batman's storyline. And I'm sure Henry's detractors will spew some crap that Snyder was trying to "hide" his performance because it was so bad or some other bullsh**, but give me a break. They didn't know how to write f***ing dialogue for him and it's obvious. It's like they're so afraid that Superman might say something that rubs fans the wrong way that they think the best solution is to just have him silently listen to everyone. I couldn't believe they didn't give him a single line in the Senate hearing or during the scene with Martha. His scenes with Lois (who was also underused) are among the best... wish we had gotten more of that. But then, we're talking about a movie where the best way they could show how Superman is a true hero is to f***ing kill him in the end. And yeah, I know he'll be back, but you know who doesn't know that? The kid I a few rows away from me who was crying at the end of the movie (that's not an exaggeration). Seriously, get Snyder the hell off this project and hire someone that wants to showcase Superman and flesh him out instead of just throw him into the mix whenever we need a break from Batman.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Cavill isn't wooden, he is being directed to have no personality. He has been betrayed by his director.

Yep.