How I Met Your Mother - Part 4

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I just read the best line on tumblr "they clearly wrote the finale after 2am" #HIMYMFinale
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How is it Friends in the finale? Almost every single fan of that show knew that it had to end with Ross and Rachel being together. Ted and Robin? Not exactly that much of a consensus among the fanbase to put it mildly...

Friends did pretty much go safe and give fans the ending they were looking for. HIMYM went in a completely different direction that once again, has divided the fans.

HIMYM is not Friends.
 
Seemingly the problem isn't that it ended with Ted and Robin, but how the final season got there no? Whoever suggested the finale set over 10-15 years makes the most sense. Especially considering how they hyped the mother.

Ted not being over Robin makes sense. The show being about him coming to terms with that makes sense. It just that you know, they completely shafted the mom in the process with the delivery of the final season.
 
It was completely stupid to flesh out the Mother as much as they did if the deah was going to be a minor aspect the finale. I don't think the show is ruined but the last episode was not a shining moment for the series in my opinion.
 
For me, the problem is not so much that he ended up with Robin in the end, because that was a theory that has been around for a very long time. But it was more the handling of it. The thing I loved most about this show was that they always seemed to handle the Ted/Mother search very well, and it really made her seem to be the best thing to ever happen to him. But the ending, with how they glossed over her death and completely switched the tone of it into being more about Robin being the one he really loved is what bothers me, especially since we don't really see anything that would imply that Robin was there for him or the kids in the 6 years after her death.

And I can't help but shake the feeling that Tracy gave Ted everything he wanted that Robin couldn't, but she did it in a way that was almost like she was a temporary donor or something. Like Ted got the kids and house he wanted from the mother, but now he's going to put Robin into that situation because he wanted that with her but felt he could never have it.
 
DarthSkywalker said:
Is being "Friends" a problem?
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Not to me, but the way he said it seemed to make it be a negative thing. He appeared to be quite angry with people who would say the show was nothing like Friends.
 
weezerspider said:
I mean it did negate the whole series. We find out that the whole point of it is Ted is in love with Robin. Well we learn all of that in episode 1. The rest of the series is completely useless now. Negating the whole point of the story isn't bad storytelling. It's awful storytelling.
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Ehhh.... "In love with" is a bit strong. Remember, that was coming from, what, a sixteen year old girl?

I think the only true mistake on the part of the writers was how they played that final moment between Ted and Robin. The blue french horn bit. I think it was a misstep to have a reunion between two much older adults, one now widowed and in his 50s, essentially mirror an attempt to woo a girl that he made in his 20s. That I didn't like so much, but the rest... I dunno. It kind of makes sense to me. These aren't the same 20/30 somethings that could never make it work, that were never on the same level. These are now adults in their late 40/early 50s. They're in a new stage of their lives. The way I look at it, it's not a "By Golly, she's right, I AM IN LOVE WITH HER! Robin!!! I think I love you, lets get married and you can be the stepmother to my kids and we can live happily ever after together!!!!" It's more of a "Hey, I don't know where this is going to go, but... I don't know, maybe it'd be fun to hang out with her again, just the two of us. Like old times." It showed so much of how all their lives were changing over the course of this finale, one of the big ones to me felt like it was a lack of Robin. They all went in mostly different directions over the years, and only kept in touch for the big stuff. It makes sense to me, that after all these years, after the loss of his wife and a fairly lengthy gap of time without her, he just kind of wants to reconnect and have Robin be a part of his life again. It's not a "I'm in love with you! I've always been in love with you!!!". It's not a "Haaaaave you met me? Alright, lets have sex now."

It's a "Hey, we haven't done anything just the two of us lately. I guess I'll see if I can get a laugh out of her with this thing (the blue french horn)." I don't see it as some massive betrayal towards the Mother at all, or Barney for what it's worth. There's nothing about Barney and Robin's marriage falling apart after three years that surprises me. It happens, and with those two characters in particular, it's not a huge shock that it happened. But it's not like Ted heard about the divorce and "Holy ****, they're breaking up for real, get me in there.... awww ****, I've got this wife and kid as a weight around my neck, dragging me to the bottom." He loved The Mother. He was in love with her. Eventually making an attempt to reunite with Robin doesn't negate that at all. I mean, did we just completely forget "How the Mother Met Me"? She was totally in love with Max, and spent the better part of eight years shutting herself off from romance. With the kind of man we know Ted Mosby to be, I don't for a second believe he would've behave any differently. It's not like he was twiddling his thumbs for six years thinking "How can I make this work for me? How can I end up with Robin?" He's not Barney. I think the story he's been telling the kids is a classic case of Ted's heart and Ted's brain never quite moving at the same speed. Ted's brain might have thought it would be fun to tell his kids about his late twenties/thirties and how he eventually met their mom, but I think his heart was acknowledging that after six years, he didn't want to be alone anymore. The Mother wouldn't have wanted him to be alone anymore. And instead of doing the whole dating scene that he suffered through and eventually became fed up with ALL over again, yes, his first thought is Robin. Sketchy? Maybe. Malicious? Not so much.

And then lets not forget the format of this series. This story of how he met their mother has really been more about growing up with these friends of his, and a TREMENDOUS amount of it has been about his relationship with Robin, whereas the Mother has factored in very little. I'm not necessarily saying it's right, but they've been laying down those breadcrumbs that maybe this story was more about him airing his feelings/reminiscing about his relationship with Robin than anything.

Listen, the execution.... alright, there were some issues there, but I don't take any offense to the intent behind it. I think they could've stuck the landing a little more if they had a bit more time. It was like we were seeing the edited down version of something better. There were story beats that should've been explored and moments that they could've let breathe a little more, and they would've been much better off for it, but their objective here... I'm at peace with it. I don't LOVE it. But it makes sense to me.

I don't know, for all I know this stream of consciousness bit of posting from me has been practically unintelligible, but that's how I feel at the moment. I'm gonna sleep on it.
 
Turns out the 'Final Slap' was the writers slapping us in the face....

Alright, I'm done.
 
LibidoLoca said:
Not to me, but the way he said it seemed to make it be a negative thing. He appeared to be quite angry with people who would say the show was nothing like Friends.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. :up:
 
DarthSkywalker said:
Seemingly the problem isn't that it ended with Ted and Robin, but how the final season got there no? Whoever suggested the finale set over 10-15 years makes the most sense. Especially considering how they hyped the mother.

Ted not being over Robin makes sense. The show being about him coming to terms with that makes sense. It just that you know, they completely shafted the mom in the process with the delivery of the final season.
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That I'll TOTALLY agree with. With this ending in mind, I can't conceive of how the writers could've seen this season-long concept as a good idea. This season should have played out in real time. Not at the wedding of two people who will divorce three years down the line, leading up to the moment two people, who will eventually marry and have children, meet. And, oh yeah, the girl getting married and the guy getting the girl will eventually re-ignite their spark after the other girl dies. Have a fun 24 episodes of this, guys.

Seeing those moments of Milioti with the whole gang just make you realize how much fun that six person ensemble could've been together. You could've had Barney and Robin get married at the beginning, along with Ted meeting the Mother, and have built from there. The trouble in Barney/Robin's marriage, etc.

Yeah... not crazy about this format for the final season.
 
Wasn't this ending planned along though? Assuming they filmed the scenes with the kids back when they were filming season one.
 
IGN's rating must be an April Fool's joke. :o
 
I'm still pondering it myself. Had they eliminated or greatly reduced the entire wedding for the season concept this ending might have worked. Or not feel like such an insult to virtually everyone from the characters to the audience.

Ted deserved a good wife and he got that. He lost her, then several years later he got Robin back. Whether it will be marriage or just friendship is open for debate.

Robin had it arguably the worst. She was cut off from her friends, from her love (had she not become an international correspondent, I think maybe she and Barney could have worked) and from that grounding she needed. We saw her in the end, with several dogs again just like the beginning of the series. For all her success professionally, personally she went backwards.

Marshall and Lily got out of it relatively unscathed. They had some real close calls over the years but their final ending, that was nice.

Barney, we only know he found true love with his daughter. We don't know a thing about the mother there. Is she a good person for Barney? Does he ever still meet up with the gang frequently? Outside of their Star Wars tradition.

And this brings me back to the final season. We were ramped up this story of the wedding, the "at long last" kind of thing where so many events took place. While it was important to see it, it was not important to use an entire season.

Ted meets Tracy there, we learn a lot of things about the cast but none of it was necessary to take place stretched out over so much time then dump "she's dead" on us.

I think that's the biggest stinger. Her death was treated so weakly, just part of a montage of events leading up to "now" in the series continuity. As others said it, there was no funeral, no real chance to mourn or even react to her death. She's alive. She's sick. She's been dead for six years.
 
That is one thing I was happy about: Robin GOT HER DOGS BACK! :highfive: I hated it when she sent them to her aunt's because of Ted. :(
 
I really doubt they were the same dogs... but she did get her dog pack back.
 
Well I wasn't expecting the same exact dogs, but I'm just glad she got a dog pack again. I missed that part of her character.
 
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