How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[GothicPowerMix1]

We will see the Film no matter what GWW. But it IS FOX

 

[Supreme Power]

yes the movie will feel "RUSH HOUR" and half

Yea actually I have had no previous problems with Ratner, and have liked most of his other movies. But "if" this does end up feeling rushed and a less quality movie as a result, that will be a giant fault with him for me resulting from his "short attention span".

Hopefully, and I'm still positive that he knew to come at this the right way.

 

[FieryBalrog]

I know it seems like history repeating.

But..

Would it be worth waiting and seeing the actual film do you think?

I'm still going to see it in the hopes of enjoying something. However this information reeks of the whole rush-job cash-in mentality behind the whole production. This isn't the first bit of bad news I'm sure you know. This is the latest indication in a string of bad omens and it doesn't take a psychic to know somethings up. Until now I've held in my doubts, and haven't really complained. But really this seems to confirm everything I had hoped wasn't true about the production.

Fox treats all of its superhero franchises like ****es. Why should this be any different?

(and yes, they treated X1 and X2 like ****es too. Slashing the budget and moving up the release date by 6 months? Thats about as big a pimp-slap to the face you can get.)

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

We will see the Film no matter what GWW. But it IS FOX

Good point.

*Starts writing Angry Letter*

"Dear Fox.

I HATE YOU AND I DONT WANT TO BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.

Signed GWW"

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

Good point.

*Starts writing Angry Letter*

"Dear Fox.

I HATE YOU AND I DONT WANT TO BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.

Signed GWW"

look at how much better Fantastic Four would have been had none of thos great Deleted Scenes has been well Deleted

 

[TheVileOne]

Thats just BS excuses.

There hasnt been a single good superhero movie at that length. Yes, even X1, which had big problems thanks to its length, which meant it could only focus on Wolverine and Rogue and screwed over the other characters. This movie had at least double the characters of X1, including new ones, and its about the same length? Terrible.

If the movie is great I'll be happy but I'm not very hopeful. It sounds like a rushed hack-job to meet the May 26th deadline.

Yeah pretty much. Tons of new characters are being introduced. More than even the first and second movies. And like they all keep proclaiming

BIGGER MOVIE THAN X-MEN 1 AND X-MEN! More drama! More emotion! More action packed!

 

[FieryBalrog]

Yea. And Fantastic Four had FIVE characters and a thread-bare plot. And a terrible, rushed scene in the bar with Ben and Alicia.

X3 has what, 15 important characters?

 

[TheVileOne]

Sorry, it makes me very nervous that this movie has a comparable time as Fox's other movies like Fantastic Four, X-men, Elektra, and Daredevil.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Hmm..

Well, im pretty sure Fantastic Four was doomed from the start.

I think they took the wrong tone with it, made the wrong casting decisions, wrong director, bad script, good budget however, decent production crew.

Look, im not saying that FOX gives Superhero films pedigree attention, but I am saying that FOX recognise how vocal the fans can be and that X-Men is an important franchise in their moneymaking arsenal.

I don't think we're getting a terrible film, I don't think we're getting a good film, I think we're getting a great film at 1h45 minutes.

However, I dont think we're getting a brilliant, spectacular, one-for-the-history books, unforgettable, please everyone type film. I don't think this will be the jewel in FOX's Superhero films crown.

But I think it will be signifigantly better than Fantastic Four and all the other Superhero franchises FOX owns. I think this film will be at least on Par with X1 in terms of story, and likely on par with a film like Troy in terms of scope, but NOT on par with X2 in terms of running time and careful scene deliberation.

As I said, even at a short running time, don't expect a **** film, expect a good film, but, depending on what you like, im sure it could have been better. But so could alot of films/things.

 

[Supreme Power]

However, I dont think we're getting a brilliant, spectacular, one-for-the-history books, unforgettable, please everyone type film. I don't think this will be the jewel in FOX's Superhero films crown.

But that's what I was hoping for.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

That's what everyone was hoping for.

And I could be wrong, but I'm trying to balance out everything I know, ignore the potential hyperbole, and be realistic.

With all that said. Im still expecting a ****ing fantastic movie, something that I enjoyed the hell out of. Like Spiderman 1 and 2, X1 and 2, Batman Begins, Returns, Sin City, V For Vendetta, Superman 1 and 2 and The Hulk (Yeah thought that last one was alright)

 

[TheVileOne]

Hmm..

Well, im pretty sure Fantastic Four was doomed from the start.

I think they took the wrong tone with it, made the wrong casting decisions, wrong director, bad script, good budget however, decent production crew.

Look, im not saying that FOX gives Superhero films pedigree attention, but I am saying that FOX recognise how vocal the fans can be and that X-Men is an important franchise in their moneymaking arsenal.

I don't think we're getting a terrible film, I don't think we're getting a good film, I think we're getting a great film at 1h45 minutes.

However, I dont think we're getting a brilliant, spectacular, one-for-the-history books, unforgettable, please everyone type film. I don't think this will be the jewel in FOX's Superhero films crown.

Why not? This is what everyone around the production has promised. This is what a ton of people on the forums have proclaimed after seeing the trailers.

But I think it will be signifigantly better than Fantastic Four and all the other Superhero franchises FOX owns. I think this film will be at least on Par with X1 in terms of story, and likely on par with a film like Troy in terms of scope, but NOT on par with X2 in terms of running time and careful scene deliberation.

I say it won't be on par with X2 at all in any form. Except maybe ACTION SCENES and 'SPLOSIONS.

 

[FieryBalrog]

I wasn't expecting a classic film, I dont really expect that of any superhero blockbuster, and thats not what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a great film, and with all the other information, PLUS the running time, I dont think I'll get that either.

I wouldnt even care if they weren't incorporating one of my favorite fictional storylines into the movie, the Phoenix arc. I just wish Singer could have done his version with X3-X4 back to back or something. That sounds like he had an artistic vision for the movies. This sounds like Fox cramming in mutants so they can generate action figure revenue. It sounds like it'll be a soulless movie, run-of-the-mill Hollywood crap like Aeon Flux or Stealth. As I said, ****ing out the franchise.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

I wasn't expecting a classic film, I dont really expect that of any superhero blockbuster, and thats not what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a great film, and with all the other information, PLUS the running time, I dont think I'll get that either.

Well, SOMEONE thinks you'll get a great film. (me).

 

[freshandclean]

I don't think we're getting a terrible film, I don't think we're getting a good film, I think we're getting a great film at 1h45 minutes.

Why is it that you can think we're getting a great film before even seeing it but advise everyone else not to judge until they see it? I'm not being antagonistic, but doesn't it work both ways? You can't criticize someone for being critical about the film without seeing it then turn around and say your sure it'll be great.

What makes someone thinking that 1hr 43min isn't enough time for an epic film less valid then someone thinking it'll be great because *insert reasoning*?

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Why is it that you can think we're getting a great film before even seeing it but advise everyone else not to judge until they see it? I'm not being antagonistic, but doesn't it work both ways? You can't criticize someone for being critical about the film without seeing it then turn around and say your sure it'll be great.

What makes someone thinking that 1hr 43min isn't enough time for an epic film less valid then someone thinking it'll be great because *insert reasoning*?

Oh, im sorry, i should have cleared that up. The rules I set don't apply to me. im above the law.

 

[freshandclean]

Oh, im sorry, i should have cleared that up. The rules I set don't apply to me. im above the law.

Aren't we all.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Aren't we all.

...

No, apparently just me. Don't know how I got so lucky, but im not complaining.

Yeah, anyway, you're right. It's not my place to tell anyone else what they can or can't believe or expect about the film. Absolutely not my place at all and I apoligize for it.

But, if pessimism and negativity ever get you down. There still is a contingent of people that believe the film will be decent, whatever little comfort that may be for you. Whether we seem naive or just faithful, take some comfort in the fact that they're are some people that believe this film could be good, rather than a letdown.

 

[FieryBalrog]

That contingent existed for Catwoman also.

 

[freshandclean]

Oh. Don't get me wrong. From what I've seen it actually does look like it'll be great. I'm actually surprised a studio like FOX would actually go there with the Phoenix thing. After X2 (despite foreshadowing) I didn't actually think they'd have the balls.

But I've been very optimistic about the film and just assumed that it would be at least 2 hours so this news just grounded me. It's a case of "too good to be true" if you will. Everything post-Singer drama was going great. Trailer was fantastic, etc. Out of all the things that could go wrong but didn't, a shorter runtime was not what I was expecting. It was like a splash of cold water. Don't give into the hype just yet.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I'm really sick and tired about the *****ing concerning the runtime.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

That contingent existed for Catwoman also.

Surely you don't X3 to be a disaster on the level of Catwoman? That's about as bad as it can get.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

I'm really sick and tired about the *****ing concerning the runtime.

Hey Nell

(Nell, aren't you meant to be MIA?)

 

[zer00]

sigh I knew it

 

[freshandclean]

I'm really sick and tired about the *****ing concerning the runtime.

Well I'm a little sick and tired of the *****ing about the *****ing concerning the runtime, especially when an entire thread is devoted to "will the Marvel sign zoom into the 'R'." Please.