How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[LEX]

I thought Batman Begins was a really good film. Enjoyed it a lot.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I thought Batman Begins was a really good film. Enjoyed it a lot.

Nice avvy. She just recently started playing on my poker site.

 

[FieryBalrog]

I can't believe how many people are condemning the creators based on absolutely nothing. To all those complaining, do you think you actually know better than the people who wrote the script or directed the movie and were actually THERE through the entire process? You're on the outside and you know nothing about the actual story events, pacing, etc. I commend the people who have a "wait and see" attitude and I'm utterly confused by the people who think a longer running time automatically makes the movie better...

Based on absolutely nothing? I've seen what Fox has done before. I've seen what Kinberg and Penn have written before. I've seen what Ratner has directed. And I know about the super-rushed production schedule.

It doesnt take Einstein to figure it out, sorry. None of this crap about "You think you know better than the GODS OF HOLLYWOOD!!!?". Yes, actually. I think I do. I highly doubt that powerful juju will emerge from this mess of a production.

You know what, it's basically the same length as X1 and many complained about X1 getting too bogged down with character development/being too slow moving and not having enough action. Kinberg said himself that Ratner deliberately edited X3 to creat a real sense of impending war and intensity and they literally dive straight into the film/action, which I think makes sense.
I trust they know what they're doing and am no longer concerned about the running time!

uh, no, my main concern with X1 is that there was absolutely no time for character development for anyone not named Wolverine or Rogue. This film has 2.5 times the number of characters, including plenty of NEW ones.

This sequel appears to be getting the Jurassic Park 3 treatment, hardcore.

 

[FieryBalrog]

This has to be the worst planning and organisation of any trilogy ever!

Amen.

 

[LEX]

Nice avvy. She just recently started playing on my poker site.

Kelly Hu? You're kidding.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Kelly Hu? You're kidding.

Nope not kidding. Saw her on the site the other day making small talk,getting to know the site in the chat lobby.

 

[FieryBalrog]

As long as it's 103 BEFORE credits, then I'm fine.

Films at Cannes are listed with credits included. Thats standard practice, no reason to believe it'll be special for X3.

We're looking at a 95-97 minute movie.

 

[LEX]

Nope not kidding. Saw her on the site the other day making small talk,getting to know the site in the chat lobby.

That must've felt nice. Chatting with celebrities.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well I didn't chat with her. She was getting flooded with messages as it is...haha. I have chatted with a couple other of the celebs that play on there and they were very cool and nice.

 

[Pickle-El]

Well I didn't chat with her. She was getting flooded with messages as it is...haha. I have chatted with a couple other of the celebs that play on there and they were very cool and nice.

Speaking of celeb sightings...

I saw Bryan Singer last Friday outside the WB Burbank studios.

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=11789&page=1&pp=15

 

[ShakiraRocks]

It's funny, I remember there being a whole "nuther" set of problems we were destroying last summer; namely the fact that the director jumped ship twice, and when they went into production, there still wasn't a finished script...

Let's all put our cards on the table for a second and be honest: When was the last time a movie w/no finished script and multiple director swaps was haled as the "Movie Event of the Year"?

...and then there's the matter of the 103 minutes of "Epicness" to take in??

I'll admit, I've given this project PLENTY of grace. I gave it grace when i read early interviews, I gave it grace when i saw the teaser, then more grace when i watched the trailer and checked out the cool website...but 103 minutes? ...i'm not God. I don't have unlimited amounts of grace to give... we'll see may 26.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, classic.

I agree w/ you a bit

 

[FieryBalrog]

Surely, but I wasn't suggesting these events to be treated saparately.

If they do what you listed above (and I do believe they will), 103 minutes are just a blink.

Yes, they can easily incorporate it to the story, but the development will left a lot to be desired.

Tension, emotion, and the way to prepare the public to it is not a magical device, in which you can squeeze whatever you want in such a little time. Pas possible.

My assumption: some of the new characters will be decorative, almost quotes; some parts of both the cure and Dark Phoenix will be like a videoclip.

This is bad. It shouldn't be a hurried action flick. It should be the epic conclusion of three good movies.

Voila, the truth.

*Dressed in Cheerleader uniform*

"Give me an F! Give me an O! Give me an X! What does that spell?

"BUSINESS!"

Anyway, I'm not going to pander to either side, sayin "It should be at least 2 hours", or saying "I want a fast paced movie, X2 was too long anyway".

There is a very real part of me that wishes the running time hadn't been announced, that expected the running time to be closer to X2. X2 did not seem long to me, i was far too enthralled.

But there is also a very real part of me, that for better or worse, trusts the X3 production. I trust that Brett and the other Film-Makers know what they're doing and that studio politics hasn't affected this movie.

No, i'm not going to listen to any other poster that shouts "But the Studio has ****ed this up! The film-makers aren't in control!" or "The film-makers are **** anyway! Look at the crap they've produced in the past"

Personally, i have faith that the guys behind this film are making the right decisions, for the good of the film. I've sinced abandoned hope that this film will be everything I always wanted it to be, but I believe 100% that it will be a damn good film that I enjoy immensely, and the running time does not bother me so much anymore.

I dont trust the production. There hasn't been any reason to. I know their track record. I know the history of this production. At this point trusting the people in charge (Fox) would be like trusting flying monkeys to spring forth from my butt.

 

[X-Maniac]

I don't think the film will 'suck'.... Concern over the running time is not the same as saying the movie will be crap. I think concerns raised over the running time are valid... but we've had our answers, there's nothing we can do but wait until the movie.

My main worry has been the organisation of this movie and this trilogy - that's down to Fox, not anyone or anything else. I'm also a bit worried that critics will say it requires assumed knowledge of the characters. The critics will forget it's X-THREE and thus follows on from X1 and X2; they will judge it on its own merits, especially because of the two-year gap since X2. Good marketing is needed here to remind people of the characters - I think the character profiles on the site need to be part of every publicity pack sent out to the press, so they can remind people of who these people are.

 

[TNC9852002]

Yeah...This movie is carrying over alot of things that some of the general audience could be confused over...Surely, I can assume that the majority of the general public DOES know OF X-Men, as a comic film and possibly as a movie, but I'm not sure how many out of that majority have actually even watched all of the previous films or even know of the characters...Yes, even up til this point there will be plenty of people that haven't seen the films, but know of them.

I mean, I'm watching the tv spots over again, and I'm wondering how someone who doesn't know anything about X-Men could ever take in whatever they're watching and actually understand what the movie is about and get excited by it. I was watching the tv spots while trying to shut down the part of my brain that contains all of my X-Men knowledge, and all it looks like to me is some weird action movie with Halle Berry in it.

Yeah, you're right X-Maniac,..they can't just jump into this movie with ALL of the promotion and advertising not touching base on the original movie(s). Sure, the repeats of X-Men and X2 on FX helps a little...

With all that said, I'm wondering, will FOX show X1 and/or X2 again before X3 is released. I have a feeling that they might show one or the other sometime during the 2nd week of May...

-TNC

 

[The Kid]

SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!!11

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Tight is the word. It will be so tight as a rigor mortis and it will get into the glorious pantheon of editing butchery, like FF or Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

With all the new characters, with two storylines going together, all the dramatic aspects of Jean coming back to life, a huge battle of mutants, etc. 103 min. is just crap.

I bet they'll drop a "Director's cut" in DVD not long afterwards, and fill their pockets with as much showings as they can with that ridiculous running time.

no, it would just be moving along at a faster pace instead of dragging.

to be fair there were plenty of dragging moments in x-2, i could have skimmed about 25 minutes off that film and it woudl have still shown the same thing.


this is just like a comic book example. back in the old days they used to fit a story arc into one title and there were great titles. Now they are trying to fit the same types of stories into six book arcs and you can clearly see the the story suffer for being elongated. sure the extra space is good but when it becomes far too much space, it becomes a hinderance.

in my experience, it's best to keep it as long as it has to be and cut out all unnecessary stuff and keep what's absolutely essential in telling the story they wish to. if exploration and character development isn't truelly necessary (like collusus in the second film) then just leave it out and get on with it.

 

[silver_arrow]

Kinberg:... He wanted this war to feel like it was escalating and accelerating right into the final battle.

It's a short story effect, all events leading to a single climax. One can't tell though whether or not this will come out better in a movie, so I guess the best thing we can do is just to watch it come May

 

[kentshakespeare]

Easy : get rid of the ****ing Ewoks. Sorry, you lobbed up a meatball and I had to take a swing.

agreed. and that luke/darth/emperor scene went on forever, to no great effect. ROTJ is hardly an example of a classic, unassailable film.

 

[kentshakespeare]

Return Of The King is 200 minutes. Dude Where's My car is 85. Which is the better film?

In other words your example sucks.

the point was that running time is absolutely no indicator of a film's worth.

besides, return of the king is a crap example. it was far too long. it was by far the flabbiest of the trilogy and could have benefited from losing about 35-40 minutes, epscially towards the end. god, all those interminable denouements...british cinema audiences are usually very quiet, but every time it seemed like the film had reached a conclusion, but then didn't, and just went on and on, there were audible groans. it was self-indulgent and tedious and bloated and embarassing.

having said that, dude, where's my car? was indeed awful.

 

[X-Maniac]

It's a short story effect, all events leading to a single climax.

So were both previous X-movies. That's what made them work - separate events gradually intertwining into the climax.

 

[Nibune]

"Well, I’m happy to see that there’s finally something more controversial than the fate of Cyclops. Honestly, I understand your concern about the running time of the film. I always knew it would be shorter than X2, and I assumed it would be closer to X1 in length. I’m not entirely sure of the final FINAL running time, but it will indeed be around the announced time" -Kinberg

how is posting that it will be 103 minutes "officially" correct again?

 

[Angelus7181]

Please Fox... Tell Us It's 2 Hours Long, Please!!!

 

[Milkman95]

Again, it's disappointing, hopefully I'm wrong, but it reminds me of FF's running time and how some of the best parts of the story were edited out in favor of a faster paced film..........

 

[eXperiment]

That does suck doesn't it. X-men is way better then F4. In my opinion.

 

[Maze]

agreed. and that luke/darth/emperor scene went on forever, to no great effect. ROTJ is hardly an example of a classic, unassailable film.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/return_of_the_jedi/

seing how it scored with critics and audience there are not a lot of people who agree with you ( including me )

The ewoks are arguable as they were here visibly here to sell toys and could have easily been remplaced by Wookies for example , that luke/darth/emperor scene is hardly less arguable on the other hand , seeing as it clicked with critics, and people..you didn't like it , we're talking personnal taste.

Anyways, That one like it or not Rotj is considered a classic .

Ps: i'm awaiting to know , how you would do Rotj