How New Line Cinema Destroyed the Friday the 13th Franchise

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    [YT]0vBNKbzftNs[/YT]
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    I'm so sick of those studio exec *****e bags. The director of Freddy vs Jason had never seen any F13th or Nightmare on Elm Str. before:doh:
     
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    You know there is a Misc. Films section for a reason.
     
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    My bad. How can I move it there? Never mind I'll copy it.
     
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    Just PM a mod to move it.
     
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    You're welcome. :up:

    On the thread, you didn't think it was the million sequels before New Line took over that destroyed the franchise?
     
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    lol Well yeah. I think after part 4 there are some pretty stupid things going on. But It was the 80's and early 90's. Even if the sequels lost their quality they are still fun to watch. They have a certain charm to them even Jason goes to hell.:woot:. 00's were all about style over substance and too much bad cgi effects. At least 80's and 90's effects were practical and more believable.
     
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    What are your thoughts on the remake? I think it gets too much hate since to me it seemed it respected the first 3 which were the best of the series.
     
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    Where can I send the gift-basket and 'thank you' card to New Line?
     
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    This. This is what I think about the whole series, in fact.
     
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    The most WTF moment in the whole series has to be in Jason goes to Hell with the heart eating scene :doh: and that Creighton Duke scene when he breaks one by one the fingers of that poor guy, so he could have the answers he wanted about Jason. But the black actor has a badass over the top delivery you just gotta love him :woot:

    What about Candyman? Another forgotten horror title. I am planning seeing it soon.

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    You're talking about these movies the same way some people talk about the original Star Wars or The Lord of the Rings movies. I don't even think the people who "wrote" this dreck over a drunken weekend remember any of the scenes. Silent dude wears hockey-mask and stabs horny teenagers. There's nothing deeper than that so there's no way the film series could be ruined, because it was void of any substance from the start.
     
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    Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street (the originals of both) were eons better and two of the few slasher movies I actually like.
     
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    I like Jason, but the F13 movies aren't really anything amazing. I like 2 and 3, and the one with the girl who had the superpowers. Freddy is my favorite.
     
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    I always thought Halloween had a more interesting story behind it than the F13 series. I prefer the Freddy movies over the two though. I've found the remakes for all three haven't been as much fun as the originals, especially the NOES one. In the original NOES series it was implied what Freddy did to the kids besides killing them which made it worse in a way, in the remake it's shoved in your face every few seconds.
     
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    1. Nightmare on Elm Street. I liked the first one, third one, and Freddy's Dead. Freddy's Dead is a black comedy, and I usually remove it from my assessment of the franchise because of the disparity in tone and aesthetic. However, I loved the reboot: Jackie Earle Haley made the character terrifying - a product that had been absent since the first film-and I enjoyed how the narrative challenged the viewer's assumptions about the character.
    2. Friday the 13th. Considering the first film was a blatant ripoff of Halloween, it took the series a few films to find its own identity. While Alice is my favorite protagonist of the series, Part II is probably my favorite film of the pre-reboot series, even though I rank 3, 4, and 6 equally (they're great movies to watch on a Friday night with friends.) One component that has been missing since part II (or to an extent, III) is the Crazy Ralph character. I had hoped that the reboot would have included him, but, Nispel & Co. opted not to. Speaking of the reboot, I loved every frame of it. It is time with 2 as my favorite Friday the 13th film. The cast was great (esp. Paladecki,) all of the icons/staples of the series were there, Mears was great as Jason, and there were some terrific ideas in the film (such as the network of tunnels underneath the camp site.)

    I remember leaving the theater energized and excited about a sequel, but, learned that with the news of the rights transfer, it will probably not happen. Knowing Paramount, they will probably reboot, which will be fine, but a disappointment to fan of the reboot such as myself.
     
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    I actually liked the remakes we were given with TCM, F13, NOES, and Halloween. They definitely aren't as good as the originals with the exception of TCM. But I didn't think they were that bad.
     
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    I like the remake it wasn't that bad... The whole keeping the girl locked up was just stupid as F#%k but other than that it's a fun flick.

    Zombie's Halloween has grown on my more and more I watch it. I hated it when I saw it in theaters. Now I have seen it alot more and love that rob used alot of the music keys and dialogue from JCs Halloween.

    Awkwardly enough I love the hospital scene in Zombies H2 I mean LOVE LOVE that scene, rest of the movie well.....


    And as far as FVJ I think it's perfect and I can(and do) watch it regularly.
     
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    Well obviously you have to be a fan to appreciate those movies. I agree they are not a Shakespearean material but I love 80's in general so I don't care too much how good the movies were scripted or the acting quality.

    I am curious though why do you put LOTR in the same league as the original ST and F13th. I thought it was perceived as a masterpiece by the critics and the moviegoers.
     
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    I also loved the remake and the fresh ideas it brought to the table. I just wish we got a more extended scene of Pamela's death and explore a bit more her past raising young Jason. Or how exactly Jason fell into the lake and how did he survive so long in the woods. I think they missed an opportunity there.

    Can someone explain to me what happened to Pamela's killer after she decapitated her? Did she manage to get in a safe place? Also did the movie portrayed Jason as impossible to die, because during the end he took a great damage in the head but then we see him in the lake grabbing the girl down.

    I prefer him to be just a deformed serial killer with no silly special powers. I hope that is not the case in the remake.

    Why do you think that was stupid? I found it to be an interesting take that made sense knowing Jason's affection for his mother.
     
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    In the opening scene they show Jason may have seen his mother get her head cut off. So it made no sense to me for him to do that. And it opened question to why her(I know the whole she looked like her was said) but for me it was silly and if it was taken out of the film and if Jared's character just found her body it would of been a way better movie.

    And the scene of him finding her body could of been an emotional scene.

    That's just me tho. For me Jason wasn't the type to keep a girl.

    But as that video shows and it's very well known Jason is a hard person to show because everyone who loves him may love him for another reason.
     
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    Well of course he saw his mother die and he knew she was dead. It is obvious that he kept the girl out of a sick desire to be close to his mother even if it is some random girl that looks like her. I think that shows how twisted his mind is and adds to the creepiness.

    But he didn't keep her because he fell in love with her or something that cheesy :woot:
     
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    I guess for me it just did not work. I can now we may keep her because he wanted a women in his life ala his mother.
     
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    I didn't put LOTR in the same league as F13. Quite the opposite. I think you misunderstood my point.
     
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    Silly me :doh:. Now I got it.
     

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