World How to make the spiderman web shooters.

[White_widow]

http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/22/mcweeny.php
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f47/t347614.html

This is what I'm making with the difference that it's able to stop something bigger, and able to be used in a smaller form. The danger comes from getting it near the mouth or pressure sending shrapnel. That's why I need to make the working shooters first. If we were to use devices that would blow up with pressure, then we'd have wounds and a strong polymer possibly stopping our breathing. I wouldn't recommend using any aerosol propellants until we have a container that fires water first.

You know what? You are honestly the first person who has questioned the ethics behind this project and I want to thank you for that. You might be the only one who sees the danger. I appreciate the devil's advocate. I believe that you will have a bright future as well.

Also welcome spidey44! Man three people joining in three days. Wow! Thanks for the complement Batsam. You are highly intelligent as well! and if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have researched that polyurethane. Thanks!

 

[~SpideyFan~]

http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/22/mcweeny.php
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f47/t347614.html

This is what I'm making with the difference that it's able to stop something bigger, and able to be used in a smaller form. The danger comes from getting it near the mouth or pressure sending shrapnel. That's why I need to make the working shooters first. If we were to use devices that would blow up with pressure, then we'd have wounds and a strong polymer possibly stopping our breathing. I wouldn't recommend using any aerosol propellants until we have a container that fires water first.

You know what? You are honestly the first person who has questioned the ethics behind this project and I want to thank you for that. You might be the only one who sees the danger. I appreciate the devil's advocate. I believe that you will have a bright future as well.

Also welcome spidey44! Man three people joining in three days. Wow! Thanks for the complement Batsam. You are highly intelligent as well! and if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have researched that polyurethane. Thanks!

A strong, sticky glue and yet isn't unhealthy, GENIUS!
Man, I can imagine how awesome it'll be, like:
Officer: "Hands up!"
Thief: "Yeah? I don't think so"
*Start runing*
Officer: "Eat sticky glue you madafaca!"
Theif: "What the--?!"
*PWND*

That's such of a genius thing man, wow! The idea is to hold the enemy tight enough that he will get stun in the place, right? Man, it's a shame if I got it wrong, AGAIN. But if I'm correct, then how will it be removed after it becomes solid?

And thanks for the complement, I really appreciate it coming from someone like you .

 

[spidey44]

what if you got some form of polymer powder mixed it with a solvent and hydrogen peroxide and yeast. just an idea.

 

[White_widow]

To Spideyfan: I appreciate it. That's what I'm going for. To make it so it doesn't solidify, add more acetone.

To Spidey44: That's kind of what we were doing. The only thing is, Unless in a higher concentration, the hydrogen peroxide wouldn't generate the pressure we need. Peter could have done it with a distillational flask set, but unless you have a chemistry set, I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[spidey44]

oh wow I feel so dumb. anyway it would probably mess your skin up if something we're to go wrong.

 

[White_widow]

Well guys, I've been trying to think of how to increase the adhesive power of the webbing. I didn't want to use cyanoacrylate because the compound we have is made mostly of hydroxide. I thought about it though and I've come to several ideas that you guys might like:

1.)Spider webs are actually covered by glue from the outside.
2.) The two crosslinks might actually make it chemical-proof
3.) It stays a liquid if smothered in acetone, which is a solvent for superglue too.
4.)If statement 2 is correct then we can use superglue with no problems.
5.)If statement 3 is true to the extent of stopping all chemical reactions, then CA can be mixed in without issues.
6.) If only statement one is correct, then we can modify our shooters to seperate the two until they come out. This would be interesting because within seconds the CA would harden making the outside of the extruded fiber very hard and tacky but not skin bonding. This would make the web even stronger than before and bond even stronger.


Spidey44: Don't say that, you're not. You're skin wouldn't be affected (but it would by acetone) as far as I know though. ^^

 

[spidey44]

that would be spectacular.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Welcome, Spidey44! I will give you a complete tour of my design, best I can! Unfourtionately, I can't post my drawings, for some reson it does not work for me.

I will take apart a battery powered glue gun and put the nozzle on the front. A gluestick will go in the middle, and a "gluestick pusher" (just something on the end to fit to the gluestick) will go on the end. The "gluestick pusher" will connect to a spring, which will be fastened to the front. The "trigger will be a curved down stick, which will be holding the "gluestick pusher" on the end. When you push the lever down, it will lift up the other side and release the "gluestick pusher" sending it flying forward squirting the glue through the nozzle.
I would recommend you wait until I try it, before you do it.

 

[spidey44]

cool. For my idea I was thinking either a hole in going through the center of the glue stick, melting the tip and co2 would force the melted part through a nozzle. or just have it be like a spring pushing on the glue stick and some sort of valve to release it.

 

[T-Pott]

To Symbiote-Man: I like where you're going with the impact webbing and all, but what if instead of a glue gun, one were to go more along the lines of a paintball gun? You could make circular clips that could contain several "web balls". They could contain the web fluid, only stored in the same way paintballs are. They could be fired in the same manner as a normal gun, and when they reach the target they burst on impact, causing the fluid to expand. I'm for your idea and all, I just think it would take time for the glue gun to heat, and would injure someone if they were impacted.

 

[T-Pott]

I think if I ever end up making a webshooter, mine would be located on the forearm, like what was mentioned a few days ago on this thread. It wouldn't look as awkward, and wouldn't require "leg warmer" gloves. Look at the design for the new Spiderman costume; the red portion of the glove that angles outward could be pulled back via velcro to reveal the shooter, while the glove itself is still attached to the costume. This would allow for quick reload without removing the glove, and wouldn't limit the wrist mobility as much. It could also be slightly angled, so the wrist wouldn't need to be cocked back, and still allow the strand of web to be within an inch of the hand.

 

[~SpideyFan~]

To White Widow: Great news! He happily agreed to give you his e-mail
Send me a private message if you're still interested.

And I don't think that spider webs are actually covered by glue, I'm pretty sure it's making some king of glue itself. Just found this article about a research in Molecular Biology, I didn't check it out yet, I'll check it tomorrow, don't have enough time.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Spidey Fan:
I'm not "covering" it with glue, the glue IS the web. Just making sure!

 

[~SpideyFan~]

1.)Spider webs are actually covered by glue from the outside.

Symbiote-Man: I didn't mean to you, but for white_widow.
And do you also use White_widow's formula?

 

[Symbiote-Man]

T-pot:
Welcome! I am building this to make the smallest effective webshooter. I'm not sure if a paintball gun would be small enough. But if you can do it, I really do want to know how to build it!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Spidey 44:
Can you explain why you want a hole in the gluestick? I'm doing the spring idea you mentioned.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Spidey Fan:
No, I don't, but White widow has been a lot of help!

 

[spidey44]

well, I'll try my best to explain it. the melted end closes the hole up and then the propellant shoots through the center and forces the melted part out.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Nice!

 

[spidey44]

another idea was to have the pellets of hot glue and mix baking soda and vinegar or something to created co2 to pressurize the cartridge.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

I have made an important discovery! If hot glue could solidify into half-inch strands, they might have the same properties as the fictional web! I'm sticking with my old design, but I still will work on something close to that. So? What do you think?

 

[White_widow]

You're "sticking" with your old design? Pun. I like that. Your glue stick properties can also vary due to which you buy. Thought you should know, but that's cool! Did you use a low melt? Also, which properties are you referring to? cool stuff!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Correct, low melt! The properties are: stretchy, sticky, white-ish, when solidified it is stronger than expected, AND it can be made into a net if you do the thing you mentioned.

I'm am going to put some serous thought into hot glue!

 

[T-Pott]

Ok I must have missed something, how exactly do you plan to make a net with the fluid? I've been thinking about a spinneret that could do this, but I just don't see how that would work. Can you please fill me in?

 

[White_widow]

The net is a simple spinnerette design that I have on another page. I spent a cross-country drive from winter break trying to figure it out. There is a tube that flies spreadshot from the center. On the outside, there was a turbine that spins and the fluid will spin and harden, wrapping the inside strands. I found a comic image that supports it. It is on another page, but seeing as though there are near twenty pages now, I'll repost it.