The Dark Knight Rises How Would You Continue the Story from TDKR? (Spoilers)

Im reading a bit now. Im pretty sure im reading a porn version of Bruce & Selina lol.

EDIT: Got back to it. Im halfway through the fanfic and it's very well written but the writer seems to get off a little too much on Catwoman/Batman hahaha. Christ.
 
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then why are you posting in a thread that is bound to attract a bunch of fanfics?? Some people i swear...
 
RickFox, im gonna see if i have time to read that link soon. Seems like that one is involving Nightwing? Mine starts out with Blake as a version of Robin/Nightwing but like Nolans Catwoman...that name is never uttered. So he starts out this way in the first story and he officially gets the cape/cowl by the end. It's an extremely demonic looking Beyond cowl. Of course with the black & red cape which will already match Robins suit.

btw,it is also involving Gordon's daughter(possibly, Batgirl),Harleen Quinzel and other DC characters
 
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Im reading a bit now. Im pretty sure im reading a porn version of Bruce & Selina lol.

EDIT: Got back to it. Im halfway through the fanfic and it's very well written but the writer seems to get off a little too much on Catwoman/Batman hahaha. Christ.

yes, sort of

but then again,I believe it is necessary to address/ focus partially on the transition of their relationship from the aftermath of Bane's occupation to Florence cafe scene(it is gonna take at least several chapters to do the job) --- as well as for Selina Kyle's past/back ground(served as TDKR's supplement)---need to apprehend more about why Selina Kyle is the yin to Bruce's yang(Nolan brother)--

after watching TDKR,I heard some people claimed those two(as Nolan trilogy's characters) can't go through married life ,maybe the author is trying to prove that they can(and quite comprehensive so far)

ps: the author has unparalleled grasp of the Nolanverse characterizations of Bruce and Selina
 
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Yeah he's doing a good job at it. But for me i still dont think Selina and Bruce would get married and be happy with a child. It seems a little too nicey for Selina to stick with it. Even with her best intentions Selina can't stick with it for too long, she always ends up being selfish and only in it for herself.

I don't think Bruce would pop the question so fast either. They are yin and yang but it doesnt mean they stay together forever. Nobody is going to "get" Bruce like Selina, and vice versa. Especially now there will never be another woman who knows he was Batman and what he sacrificed and there will never be another man who knows she was Catwoman. But Selina's too much of a wanderer and Bruce is better off (years later) settling with some italian woman in the same way Michael Corleone tried to do in the first Godfather. OR should i say...perhaps coming back to Gotham so he can mentor Blake.
 
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Yeah he's doing a good job at it. But for me i still dont think Selina and Bruce would get married and be happy with a child. It seems a little too nicey for Selina to stick with it. Even with her best intentions Selina can't stick with it for too long, she always ends up being selfish and only in it for herself.

I don't think Bruce would pop the question so fast either. They are yin and yang but it doesnt mean they stay together forever. Nobody is going to "get" Bruce like Selina, and vice versa. Especially now there will never be another woman who knows he was Batman and what he sacrificed and there will never be another man who knows she was Catwoman. But Selina's too much of a wanderer and Bruce is better off (years later) settling with some italian woman in the same way Michael Corleone tried to do in the first Godfather.OR should i say...perhaps coming back to Gotham so he can mentor Blake.

may be she can-----as Selina from Warner TDKR Universe+her past/back ground stories that author has been providing through those chapters

will never be another man who knows she was Catwoman---J.Blake,Gordon,Fox,Alfred??

a wanderer---it all depends,as a character from DC comics, she is, as a character from TDKR Universe,I think she is not.(just like, in DC comic Universe, she commited those crimes perharps for enjoying the thrills and never want to stop,----in Warner TDKR,she commited those crimes for survive/living and she want to retire and leave her ciminal past behind wistfully.

or maybe you are right--the fiction is still "in-progress'.

perhaps coming back to Gotham so he can mentor Blake---he did go back to Gotham(but not alone) and he did start to training J.Blake
 
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I could see this version of Selina sticking with Bruce . While it may be a bit far fetched the ending of TDKR was pretty far fetched anyway, with the two of them running off together in the first place imo. They would probably travel alot and never stay in one place too long, but I could buy Nolan's version of Bruce and Selina having a kid.However , I do think their relationship would be filled with secrets and lies of omisson. I also think that it would take something big to force Bruce to come back and reclaim the mantle. Pressumably at 44 or 45 he'd still be young enough to do the job.
 
The only way he would return would be because the Joker has resurfaced or something bad happened to Blake, which could be a result of Joker escaping. But i would think Joker could get to Bruce. Any other villain would be left up to Blake.
 
oh and what i meant when i said "there wont be another man who knows her past as Catwoman" i meant romantically speaking. Unless..you know...Alfred wants to get in on the action :D
 
The only way he would return would be because the Joker has resurfaced or something bad happened to Blake, which could be a result of Joker escaping. But i would think Joker could get to Bruce. Any other villain would be left up to Blake.

yes, in that fiction,Joker did resurface(and he is not alone),-----the final showdown between Joker/Quinzel and J.Blake&Barbara/Mr&Mrs Wayne had cost Selina dearly(nearly cripple, mentally)

and Joker "survive"(there are many forms of survival)
 
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When people bring up how Batman could have existed in a more low-key manner after the events of TDK (before the Dent Act)..you could string up a story with Riddler AND Penguin if one wants to go for it.

An all-out mob war could not have taken place. I think the city calmed down quite a bit after Joker was thrown into Arkham. And of course Batman would need to be extremely low-key (no vehicles, minimal interactions with Gordon: only messages) but you can work around the Dent Act in my opinion.

A more personal vendetta against Bruce/Bats or the police department. Where the citizens of Gotham & the news are in the dark. Something with Gordon at the forefront, in his prime as the Commish. Wayne Manor doesn't have to be finished but the majority of the Batcave will. Alfreds line in TDKR about "you haven't been down here for a long time.." could refer to this point when the cave was new & fixed and Bruce indeed used it.

Riddler can be "Edward Nashton" a private investigator and his role could be more "supporting". If Scarecrows role was small, Two-Face's rampage was small and so was Talia's once she was revealed...then Riddler could have had a small role as well. Like Nolans Catwoman, the name "riddler" would never be uttered but his riddles would put Bruce's mind to work as a detective. Question marks would be everywhere of course, and the color green would be a little more subtle. Yes, another villain who dresses in a suit (like Ras, Harvey, Crane, Falcone, Maroni).

Penguin would be the main villain. We would get flashbacks to his childhood + growing up into adulthood, the way his family treated him, his rise as a crimelord. Riddler on the other hand is just "there". Penguins flashbacks are quick, almost dream-like. Maybe they are actually in his nightmares. He's sympathetic at times, then down-right despicable at other points in the movie. Very much based on the latest "Penguin: Pain and Prejudice".

The plot points could be anything, as long as it's more personal towards Batman with less of the "city is in danger". By the end Riddler & Penguin would be taken care of somehow (of course). Bruce hangs it up for good when the Dent Act comes into play and makes reference to putting his money to good use to help the city with some project since he can't be Batman anymore, not even in a limited fashion as he'd been doing. This project of course is the energy project that we know failed, which led to him becoming a complete recluse.

Just an idea since i keep reading peoples thoughts about a possible story scenario. If you twist things around enough you can squeeze another batman movie/comic in there. Of course you can always replace Penguin with Black Mask which would make it more personal to Bruce. If you NEED Nygma to be the main baddie, Strange can be Bruce's psychiatrist for dealing with Rachels death. So it's open but i figured i would give my take on how to include Penguin & Riddler simultaneously.
 
This thread's been kinda quite for a while. Here's my idea for a fourth Batman film...though it would probably makes fans of TDKR and the Nolan trilogy a bit mad if it were made.

A few years after the events of TDKR, the city of Gotham is still struggling to recover from the damage left behind by LOS. Progress has been extremely slow and the issues which led to the disparity between rich and poor still remain. In alot of ways Gotham city is still a city divided.

The Dent Act has expired , and many of the criminals who were set free during the Blackgate prison break remain at large while the Underworld has a new leader , known as The Black Mask who's taken over what's left of the Falcone mob family. Its clear the city needs a Batman more then ever. There are rumors that Batman has returned and that he didn't die , but for now its considered a myth amoung those who live in the slums.

John Blake, on the other hand has given the city a new dark knight,. He's less flashy then Bruce's version and prefers to remain in the shadows and to remain a myth. However Blake has found that the role is much harder than he imagined it would be. He's used the contacts and informants that he had as a police officer but nobody can seem to get inside the Mask's organization. At the same time, mask is recruit the same type of orphans and youngsters that Blake want's to turn away from crime.The Black Mask, and with the use of assasins such as deadshot is brutal and has challenged the new Batman in every way.


Bruce and Selina , in the meanwhile live in Italy under new names and new identies enjoying the domestic life as a married couple. They now have a daughter Helena and have left their prior lives behind. However, Bruce still moniters the slow progress that has been occurring in Gotham. While Bruce is troubled by the new developments , he's the happiest he's ever been , and he's not willing to give that up.

At the same time Selina , is shaken by the re-emergence of the Falcone family and its new head Black Mask. There is still alot about Selina's past that Bruce doesn't know about but he doesn't press the issue. However Selina's past apears to come back to haunt her once she begins to recieve strange emails and messages. She clearly has an idea of what they're alluding to but she doesn't tell Bruce , and they argue anytime he presses the issue.

Gordon has retired as Commisoner and settled down with an old friend detective Sarah Essen. He still keeps in touch with Blake and gives him advice from time to time but he's out of the game. Essen on the other hand is desperate to take down the Black Mask organization and to try to keep Gotham together.

Things go from bad to worse once Blakes Batman is led into a trap by one of Blake's teenage informants who working for Black Mask. Caught off guard , Blake is killed while Lucius monitors his vital signs. Lucius tries to get in touch with Alfred who he believes lives in France. Sarah Essen is also taken out in an odvious mod stlye hit.

A few days later Selina is killed and Bruce mysteriously recieves part of Blakes Batman cowl. Bruce is devistated and angry. He takes Helena to Alfred who brings him up to speed on the information he learned from Fox. Bruce now has no choice . He leaves Helena with Alfred who tries to talk Bruce out of it , pointing out that he has a daughter to live for. Bruce argues that theyll come for Helena if he doesn't go back . Bruce must return to Gotham and don the cowl again in order to stop Black Mask and discover who killed Selina.

He returns to gotham with one identity, Batman. At the same time he's found a Gordon close to the edge with grief. The two men need each other and decide to work together again to take out the common enemy which destroyed both of their lives. In the end they take out the Black Mask and his syndicate but soon discover that he had nothing to do with the killings of Blake, Selina, and Sarah.

As it turns out the Joker was behind the messages and the killings of Blake, Selina and Sarah and did it as a means of bringing Bruce and Gordon back into the game. Joker explains knowing Bruce's identity was only a means to an end in order to get him back out and that he couldn't except the "pretender" and the idea that Gordon and Bruce would just "give up" . Joker also hates Black Mask and see's him as a Johnny come lately and see's an added advantage of bringing Batman back in order to crush him .

Anyway that's what I would do though , the fans would never go for a new actor playing the Joker , but to me that's how i'd do it.

Expanding on my version of a Nolanverse Batman 4, I'd have Roman Sionos's, Black Mask's true identity alter ego be Gotham's new young golden boy having taken the space left empty by the late Bruce Wayne . Unlike Bruce, however he uses his families wealth to rebuild Gotham in the wake of LOS occupation. In sense he is a twised combination of Blake and Wayne. He has Blakes youthful optimism and apparent passion to rebuild Gotham to the public while , he has another identity as Black Mask who uses fear and violence in order to become the boss of all crime bosses.

At the same time Sarah Essen and the GCPD has tried in vein to discover the true identity of the Black Mask but witnesses are either too afraid or who keep disappearing. The man who may hold the answers is a former, feared ,foot soilder for the Falcone crime film, Tony Zucco, who not only knows about Selina's connection to the Falcone family but is also suspected in the murder of John Blake's father over the gambling debt.

In addition to Black Mask's wave of Crime, Zucco's association with him makes the Blake's take down of the organization even more personal. Behind the scenes the Joker uses Blakes emotions and Zucco as bait in order to lure Blake to his death , in a plan that has shades of A Death In the Family.

As far as a cast goes

Batman/Bruce Wayne: Christan Bale
Batman/ John Blake: Joseph Gordon Levitt
Black Mask/ Roman Sionos : Ryan Gosling
Joker : Johnny Depp
Selina Kyle: Anne Hathaway
James Gordon: Gary Oldman
Sarah Essen : Toni Collette
Tony Zucco: Ray Winstone
Alfred Pennyworth : Michael Caine
 

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