How would you incorporate the X-Men into the MCU?

[demitri_vampiro]

Maybe a Magneto from the Yugoslav civil war? most people roughly know events at Srebrenica surely and there arguably more relevant to the world today. That could even have the "Nazi hunter" aspect if they wanted it with Serbian war criminals evading the law also something the public know of.

It would be interesting to see Magneto transplanted out of the X-men, we have afterall already had the story with Charles told twice although I would love to see Fassbender in the MCU even if its with a rebooted version.

a civil war is different to a war where you have an obvious good and bad guy.
in the Yugoslav war, crimes were committed from all 3 sides.

maybe somewhere between WW2 and now, magneto was experimented on by mr. sinister which gives him prolonged life.

or maybe in a different reality there was another big war in the 70's.

 

[Raiden]

If Marvel wants to keep the X-Men universe from Fox as it currently stands, thanks to Dr. Strange's introduction of portals and parallel universes it is possible to unite the two cinematic universes into one cohesive unit. If Feige doesn't want to, then they can explain that after Phase 4, the events of the Infinity War triggered human race's mutant genes, and thus mutants were born and discovered every day. It's not that hard a concept to explore.

 

[TheVileOne]

It wouldn't be hard to say some mutants had been around for years, they just didn't talk about them or anything.

Keep in mind, Inhumans had already existed on Earth for years in the MCU. Also, various people with gifts and superpowers who were monitored by SHIELD.

 

[Steamteck]

I wouldn't. I always preferred the Xmen separate from the rest of the marvel universe.

 

[Orba]

It wouldn't be hard to say some mutants had been around for years, they just didn't talk about them or anything.

Keep in mind, Inhumans had already existed on Earth for years in the MCU. Also, various people with gifts and superpowers who were monitored by SHIELD.

Yup, and there are people with abilities in the MCU but source of many of them has never been explored. It could be revealed that people had been trying to keep the fact that for many there was a single source a secret. A combination of secret organisations who want to use Mutants for their own purposes or even the Mutant community itself working to avoid public exposure. It would certainly be possible that Nick Fury has helped the likes of Xavier with keeping things secret, its already been shown that there are things that he has kept out of SHIELD databases when he felt like it.

The numbers would need to be kept low to explain how the secret has been kept but then in the comic book every time they have made it so that there is a massive Mutant population they have then ended up with a massive cull (M Day/the sentinel attack on Genosia etc)

 

[Random490]

Yup, and there are people with abilities in the MCU but source of many of them has never been explored. It could be revealed that people had been trying to keep the fact that for many there was a single source a secret. A combination of secret organisations who want to use Mutants for their own purposes or even the Mutant community itself working to avoid public exposure. It would certainly be possible that Nick Fury has helped the likes of Xavier with keeping things secret, its already been shown that there are things that he has kept out of SHIELD databases when he felt like it.

The numbers would need to be kept low to explain how the secret has been kept but then in the comic book every time they have made it so that there is a massive Mutant population they have then ended up with a massive cull (M Day/the sentinel attack on Genosia etc)

Completely agree. It's easy to read an x-men comic and think there are so many mutants, but you have to consider in a population of 7.6 billion people even a high number like 25 million is only like 1 out of 300 people. I would keep the numbers low. Let's say 1 million people who are mutants, but say only 100,000 have an outward appearance that can give it away. And only 500 have powers that are considered a problem for society. So there are people who may see farther or are a little tougher that won't get detected in society or just weird eye color. Xavier's school is for those who need help controlling powers or a safe space for young people to grow up in a semi normal environment.

The panic comes when people learn that mutants didn't gain powers from an outside source. Every super powered individual so far has gained powers from something. Which is why every time a super human shows up the authorities assume it was caused by something. And the idea that just anyone can be born with powers is a terrifying prospect for people and if the first mutant they learn about is say Magneto who commits an act of terror is enough to get everyone going crazy. And that would be what the first film be about, the world learning of mutants.

Totally do-able.

 

[metaphysician]

My own "out there" Magneto update idea is Rwanda. Its a much better Holocaust analogy than the Balkan wars. You just have to be comfortable with a black Magneto, and willing to do some nuanced work with what this means for Magneto's exact ideology ( less about "the world will kill mutants" and more "the world will stand by and do nothing" ).

That said, still don't want mutants retro-inserted into the MCU. I don't have enough faith to believe they'd do the necessary level of mutant hatred amputation it would take to have even a "starting from scratch" version fit well. The X-mythos is just too addicted to Mutant Hatred as the go-to narrative drug of choice. They can be their own parallel Earth, where having the general public be self-destructively hateful doesn't require tainting the MCU.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I like X-Men as a period piece. So, either keep it separate from the MCU (running parallel in a concurrent timeline perhaps accessible by Dr Strange) or rework the timeline by other means. Say Thanos or Wanda uses their powers to cause catastrophic changes to the timeline.

Leave Magneto and Xavier's origins in the holocaust era. Leave early X-Men teams in the late 1900s (Uncanny = 1980s, Giant Size =1990s, various other teams = 2000s).

Fox made X-Men a period piece. Id like to see Marvel/Disney take a crack at this.

 

[Dasher10]

Merge universes in an event film.

 

[rockman1216]

My own "out there" Magneto update idea is Rwanda. Its a much better Holocaust analogy than the Balkan wars. You just have to be comfortable with a black Magneto, and willing to do some nuanced work with what this means for Magneto's exact ideology ( less about "the world will kill mutants" and more "the world will stand by and do nothing" ).

That said, still don't want mutants retro-inserted into the MCU. I don't have enough faith to believe they'd do the necessary level of mutant hatred amputation it would take to have even a "starting from scratch" version fit well. The X-mythos is just too addicted to Mutant Hatred as the go-to narrative drug of choice. They can be their own parallel Earth, where having the general public be self-destructively hateful doesn't require tainting the MCU.

You don't need a Black Magneto for him to be in Rwanda white people can be there to.

I think Marvel can fit the mutatnts in the MCU just fine

As the hole mutant hatred already exists in the form of Inhumans in the MCU.

I think the mutant hatred works in a shared universe even more so because Magneto will really have something to fear and it will make him think outside the box because at this point yeah the humans can challenge him, and I think it would be cool to see the whole mutant hatred thing get resolved and have an actual resolution ie. mutants start joining the Avengers, and SHIELD so we are not just stuck on mutants are hated and that thing just continues you have to resolve it at some point and move on from there.

 

[rockman1216]

I like X-Men as a period piece. So, either keep it separate from the MCU (running parallel in a concurrent timeline perhaps accessible by Dr Strange) or rework the timeline by other means. Say Thanos or Wanda uses their powers to cause catastrophic changes to the timeline.

Leave Magneto and Xavier's origins in the holocaust era. Leave early X-Men teams in the late 1900s (Uncanny = 1980s, Giant Size =1990s, various other teams = 2000s).

Fox made X-Men a period piece. Id like to see Marvel/Disney take a crack at this.

Honestly I'd prefer if they just made the X-Men modern day no more period pieces.

You could have period piece spin-offs but the X-Men? no thanks.

 

[rockman1216]

My idea would simply be

The X-Men are street level maybe have disbanded but a mutant threat arises that causes fear(Magneto and some Genoshian mutants) that were created after the events of Infinity War and Avengers 4 maybe some Infinity Gem energy disperses in the air awakening more X-Genes thus Magneto has an army of mutants.

You can even do the Holocaust origin as well just have it be that him and Charles Xavier lived on the Savage Island in the early 2000s that can reverse peoples aging processes and during this time Magneto becomes crazier and wants to kill all humans and the fallout happens

Charles makes the X-Men and Magneto is making the brotherhood of mutants, but keep in on the Savage Islands for a while as he's trying to figure out a way to activate deactivated mutant genes. Reason he wants to amass an army of mutants to take over humanity. Have the events of Avengers 4 have something to do with mutant genes being unlocked whether it be use of the Infinity Gems on a widescale or whatever just have it unlock X-Genes similar to Pietro and Wanda Magneto's Children who he left while his wife was still pregnant to live on the Savage Lands a place to protect mutants.


Have Magneto cause terror and start spreading mutant supremacy the X-Men are forced out of hiding and out of retirement and Xavier's school is open, and have the Avengers appear in the first movie because I think the movie should be AVENGERS VS X-Men.

With SHIELD and the Avengers learning about Magneto, his mutant army, and the X-Men.

Due to Magneto spreading mutant supremacy and terror, mutants are hated similar to how people hate Muslims because of a few terrorists #notall

The X-Men are tasked with repairing relations between humanity and mutants sincce Colossus, Xavier, Negasonic, and the New Mutants can't do it by themselves.

Oh and have the X-Men be disbanded in different places, and have Colossus and Beast be the only members of the X-Men left while Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel, Wolverine, and Storm doing there own things.

Like Storm looking for T'Challa to marry him or something

or Wolverine looking for answers about his past(please let's forget X-Men Origins Wolverine happened)

And Colossus is helping Deadpool to get him to be a superhero yes the Deadpool events will remain in MCU canon.

 

[psylockolussus]

Just have a mutant verse where mutants exist and the MCU people don't. I want this mutant verse to have nothing to do with Foxverse. Then have them cross over in a film where they discover another reality that is the MCU.

 

[zachthegeek]

When I was thinking about this the other day, would they try to retcon in Magneto as Wanda and Pietro’d dad, like in the comics? Or maybe he could’ve acted like an adoptive father in the past, but abandoned him when they didn’t manifest powers, adding to their motivation to get abilities from Strucker. Or maybe he even dropped them off at Strucker’s doorstep himself. Who knows.

Maybe they’ve always been mutants? The idea that the mind stone somehow gave QS powers completely unrelated to the mind has always felt like a plot hole. Maybe they discovered their powers because they were trying so hard, believing the staff would give them powers, and they assumed the staff was the reason when the powers manifested?

But the question then was, how would they show that? In an X-Men movie, Wanda’s character is irrelevant; in an Avengers movie, Magneto is irrelevant. That gave me the idea - what if mutants were introduced in an Avengers vs. Magneto movie? That could be the event that made people fear mutants, and separate them in their minds from the other superhumans. As I thought about it, I saw a lot of benefits - mutants are the focus of an entire movie in a less sudden way, introducing them briefly before later giving them a full X-Men movie; they’re more tied in to the general universe; the first X-Men movie wouldn’t have to establish why people hate mutants; and we wouldn’t have to have Magneto as a major villain in an X-Men movie for the 7th time.

Even if they don’t connect the twins to Magneto in any way (much of me hopes they don’t - their backstory has already been told without Magneto) I still like the idea. What do you think?

 

[rockman1216]

When I was thinking about this the other day, would they try to retcon in Magneto as Wanda and Pietro’d dad, like in the comics? Or maybe he could’ve acted like an adoptive father in the past, but abandoned him when they didn’t manifest powers, adding to their motivation to get abilities from Strucker. Or maybe he even dropped them off at Strucker’s doorstep himself. Who knows.

Maybe they’ve always been mutants? The idea that the mind stone somehow gave QS powers completely unrelated to the mind has always felt like a plot hole. Maybe they discovered their powers because they were trying so hard, believing the staff would give them powers, and they assumed the staff was the reason when the powers manifested?

But the question then was, how would they show that? In an X-Men movie, Wanda’s character is irrelevant; in an Avengers movie, Magneto is irrelevant. That gave me the idea - what if mutants were introduced in an Avengers vs. Magneto movie? That could be the event that made people fear mutants, and separate them in their minds from the other superhumans. As I thought about it, I saw a lot of benefits - mutants are the focus of an entire movie in a less sudden way, introducing them briefly before later giving them a full X-Men movie; they’re more tied in to the general universe; the first X-Men movie wouldn’t have to establish why people hate mutants; and we wouldn’t have to have Magneto as a major villain in an X-Men movie for the 7th time.

Even if they don’t connect the twins to Magneto in any way (much of me hopes they don’t - their backstory has already been told without Magneto) I still like the idea. What do you think?

The Magneto idea is pretty easy just have him leave for the Savage Lands to start a mutant colony while Magda was pregnant but have him not know about the children.

Magda would then find a new man Pietro and Wanda's adopted father and never tell them about Magneto.

 

[Chance Jackson]

TBH I think the Balkan wars are perfect with all the mass atrocities and reciprocation of mass atrocities it is the perfect landscape to create a hatred for all mankind

If Marvel wants to keep the X-Men universe from Fox as it currently stands, thanks to Dr. Strange's introduction of portals and parallel universes it is possible to unite the two cinematic universes into one cohesive unit. If Feige doesn't want to, then they can explain that after Phase 4, the events of the Infinity War triggered human race's mutant genes, and thus mutants were born and discovered every day. It's not that hard a concept to explore.

I think the biggest problem with the later is the discrimination angle can't be justified in a world where the population hero worships the avengers. I think the xmen should remain in their own universe crossing over only for big events

 

[Big Bang]

When I was thinking about this the other day, would they try to retcon in Magneto as Wanda and Pietro’d dad, like in the comics?

They already retconned that retcon. They aren't related to Magneto anymore.

 

[metaphysician]

You don't need a Black Magneto for him to be in Rwanda white people can be there to.

That would defeat the point of even using Rwanda, which is to use the Rwandan Genocide. The Rwandan Genocide was *not* about killing white folk. It was about Hutus killing Tutsis.

 

[Yowza]

I agree with those wanting to keep it separate. The characters work better on their own.

If must go this route: I liked the Terrigan Mist infiltrating earth idea activating dormant inhumans better than mutants cause that gives a basis for how the gene is present in the first place rather than some evolutionary thing that happens all at once in a world already full of superheros.

If still have to go this route... To put them into the MCU, the whole premise of the X-team would have to be back to basics and reinvented in key areas (mutant gene dormant alien DNA triggered by event somehow as opposed to just random sudden evolutionary advance in human DNA as 1 example)to make exploring them feel fresh and perhaps a slower paced movie focusing on characterization to make the characters appear more well rounded to not make people feel superhero fatigue by this point with too much meshing together with superheroes already all over the place winning battles all the time...

Original core team from the 60's; characters still teenagers and hidden from the world until the events of movie unfold... At least that explains why they have no jobs and are all just hanging around the mansion all the time. The concept of them suddenly becoming a superhero team could perhaps be re-examined as well as is a sudden leap for sure.

Edit: The more I think about this the less interesting it becomes. Approach above would be more interesting in a TV style format... I think Fox is exploring other angles already. It would just be alternate realities colliding getting a battle royale type movie similar to Godzilla vs. Kong or Freddie vs. Jason now have MCU vs. X-Men coordinated by Dr. Strange and Grandmaster from Thor Ragnarok! A B-Level movie that gives the fans what they want once all regular films on these characters has become exhausted.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yup, and there are people with abilities in the MCU but source of many of them has never been explored. It could be revealed that people had been trying to keep the fact that for many there was a single source a secret. A combination of secret organisations who want to use Mutants for their own purposes or even the Mutant community itself working to avoid public exposure. It would certainly be possible that Nick Fury has helped the likes of Xavier with keeping things secret, its already been shown that there are things that he has kept out of SHIELD databases when he felt like it.

The numbers would need to be kept low to explain how the secret has been kept but then in the comic book every time they have made it so that there is a massive Mutant population they have then ended up with a massive cull (M Day/the sentinel attack on Genosia etc)

Yup and then there could be something that triggers creation or emergence of mutants. Basically same thing with the Inhumans on Agents of SHIELD but on a more expansive level.

The point is, it wouldn't be hard to bring mutants into the MCU at all. It would be simple and easy to do.

 

[ludovica]

Treat the X-Men as a black ops team until now gone undetected.

Like rockman said above, introduce Magneto in an Avengers movie, also throw in Beast.
Introduce Storm in a Fearless Defenders movie.
Sneak Hulk vs Wolverine somewhere, maybe Deadpool 3.

Then, full on Uncanny X-Men: Homecoming.
I'd go with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Wolverine, Iceman, Nightcrawler and Colossus, facing the Brotherhood sans Magneto, led by a terrorist Mystique accompanied by Rogue, with Sinister pulling the strings.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Make a film adaptation as close to the comics as possible or even the '90s animated series

 

[Stark Bauer]

Ditch parallel universes and all that baloney - just set the stage for them and it will naturally fall into place- the same way it has with every new marvel character in the MCU. Or just introduce them in Phase 4 and make Phase 4 about X Men and Fantastic Four and then bring them all together Avengers Guardians Defenders FF and X Teams at the end for a massive secret wars fight

 

[psylockolussus]

X-Men and the mutants are bigger than any of the properties introduced in the MCU. That's like smashing Jl/Avengers into 1 world and pretending like they've been in 1 universe all this time.

 

[ludovica]

X-Men and the mutants are bigger than any of the properties introduced in the MCU. That's like smashing Jl/Avengers into 1 world and pretending like they've been in 1 universe all this time.

In the comics they were originally introduced in a world where mutants where a new public occurence otherwise until then under the radar, why couldn't it be the same in the MCU?