How would you reboot Batman?

It would be very dark and the world would be like in Batman TAS. No Robin.
 
I'd like to see Dick Grayson's story (from Robin to Nightwing) presented on screen, as well as introducing Jason Todd and Tim Drake in some capacity on screen.
 
i'd include villains that have interesting stories but i dont know, don't have to be grounded in uber ****ing realism

and ohh yeah i'd make joker perma white, ha
 
I think that Batman Begins served as a great foundation for the film franshise, The Dark Knight followed it very well but now with the Dark Knight Rises i think they kind of ruineed that foundation by making an ending to to a trilogy.

I sincerelly think the world of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight wasn't that realistic or impossible to put Superman and other heroes, Year One was much more realistic and yet it was set in a superhero world, unlike most i prefer the idea of a continuin series of movies with Batman where the stores grow like the comics instead of making a 1-3 self containing movie cycle.

Unlike t«what Nolan sais these movies can last forever, look at the James Bond movies, and with Batman you also have a lot of story potencial and interesting villains.
 
Personally, I don't know how I would reboot Batman.

I think that Batman Begins served as a great foundation for the film franshise, The Dark Knight followed it very well but now with the Dark Knight Rises i think they kind of ruineed that foundation by making an ending to to a trilogy.

I sincerelly think the world of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight wasn't that realistic or impossible to put Superman and other heroes, Year One was much more realistic and yet it was set in a superhero world, unlike most i prefer the idea of a continuin series of movies with Batman where the stores grow like the comics instead of making a 1-3 self containing movie cycle.

Unlike t«what Nolan sais these movies can last forever, look at the James Bond movies, and with Batman you also have a lot of story potencial and interesting villains.

I think it would be a bit creatively dishonest to put Superman in this universe. I mean, if there was a guy who could melt things by looking at them, lift thousands of tons, and fly at relativistic speeds, someone would have mentioned it.
 
Personally, I don't know how I would reboot Batman.



I think it would be a bit creatively dishonest to put Superman in this universe. I mean, if there was a guy who could melt things by looking at them, lift thousands of tons, and fly at relativistic speeds, someone would have mentioned it.
Why not just introduce Superman after the first 2 Batman movies events? It worked for the Bruce Timm DC animated universe
 
Why not just introduce Superman after the first 2 Batman movies events? It worked for the Bruce Timm DC animated universe

Even so, I just think that having Superman exist offscreen would contradict the "grounded" tone of the films. BB & TDK give me the impression that they take place in a world much like our own. Superman's mere existence would shatter that familiarity because he could change the very world as we know it.
 
Wouldn't the same happen with a world where phones emit waves to spy the entire city do the same? When directors like Nolan talk about realism they're refering to making thing believable in todays context, that's what the tried to do with Spider-man, iron Man and even Superman: The Movie
 
If I rebooted Batman...I would scrap the live-action thing all together. It would be CGI, but not Pixar or Dreamworks style CGI. It would be more akin to the Arkham City style cinemas on a bigger budget. IE. Realistic, but also very stylized. This would allow a Batman much truer to the comics as well as keep the feel and look...and you wouldn't have to worrya bout actors aging since you can have a voice actor. (Preferably an established voice actor..you know who...someone who's done the voice before. ;)

That's how I would do it.
 
Wouldn't the same happen with a world where phones emit waves to spy the entire city do the same? When directors like Nolan talk about realism they're refering to making thing believable in todays context, that's what the tried to do with Spider-man, iron Man and even Superman: The Movie

I'm not sure if the phones would change the world, but Superman would. He has the capability to act on at least a global scale, nothing on Earth is out of his reach. If he can fly to Paris to save people, why for God's sake wouldn't he be able to save Gotham City from the latest villain to terrorize its citizens?
A world with Superman would be far more like that of Watchmen than traditional comic book universes.

If I rebooted Batman...I would scrap the live-action thing all together. It would be CGI, but not Pixar or Dreamworks style CGI. It would be more akin to the Arkham City style cinemas on a bigger budget. IE. Realistic, but also very stylized. This would allow a Batman much truer to the comics as well as keep the feel and look...and you wouldn't have to worrya bout actors aging since you can have a voice actor. (Preferably an established voice actor..you know who...someone who's done the voice before. ;)

That's how I would do it.

Hell no. What's the point of going CGI? I want to see superheroes in live-action on the big-screen, not animated.
 
I'm a comic book fan, when I go to see a Batman movie, I am there as a comic book fan. I really don't like how we have to separate all these characters for the sake of "realism" or tone. Knowing Superman and The Flash exist in the DC comic universe doesn't keep us from having great Gotham-centered Batman stories, so why would movies be different?
 
Even so, I just think that having Superman exist offscreen would contradict the "grounded" tone of the films. BB & TDK give me the impression that they take place in a world much like our own. Superman's mere existence would shatter that familiarity because he could change the very world as we know it.

Which IMO would have the potential to make for a damn good movie - I can certainly see a match-up between the two of them coming out of it: after all the fighting to save Gotham from all the lunatics, this flying alien shows up and unintentionally threatens to undo it all just by being there --- and Batman will have none of it. Kind of the reverse of the DCAU's "World's Finest", where this time it's Batman saying "Get out of Gotham!" and willing to do what's necessary to show Superman to the door, Kryptonite-knuckles and all.
 
I'd set it in present day more or less and view it more of a loosely based continuation of Nolan's Batman.
Key elements for rebooted movie one...

Batman would be in roughly his 10th year as a costumed crime fighter and starts the movie with a "James Bond opening" featuring Killer Croc as an escaped fugitive.

Several familiar items are on display as easter eggs in the Batcave such as Jason Todd's Robin uniform, a giant Joker playing card, Ra's Al Ghul's sword,a Scarface ventriliquist dummy
and Mr.Freeze's gun. In addition a brief cameo of (unnamed)Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain training.

Dick Grayson is Nightwing currently operating in Bludhaven but visiting Gotham to compare notes with Batman about Black Mask's criminal actities spreading there as well.His orgin would be later detailed in a solo film prequel.

Barbara Gordon is Oracle and her orgin would be detailed in either a Batgirl or Birds of Prey prequel.

Bruce Wayne battles business rival Roman Sionis by day and Batman and Nightwing battle Black Mask and his criminal organization by night.

Hugo Strange is a profiler/criminal psychologist working at the Arkham Asylum who has been obsessed with Batman for years. He interviews all inmates who have been apprehended by the Batman. Jervis Tetch makes a cameo showing flashbacks of an encounter with Batman further adding to Strange's obsession.

After Sionis has Bruce Wayne framed for the murder of Vesper Fairchild and sent to the Arkham Asylum rather than Blackgate prison due to Black Mask blackmailing the Asylum's director in charge Jerimiah Arkham,Strange does a case study on Wayne and comes to the revelation that he must be Batman.

After leaving Bruce in solitary confinement,Strange then equips himself with lethal weapons, dons a homemade costume and attempts to "clean up" Gotham City using extreme violence as the new Batman since he feels that Bruce is "mentally inept to be the kind of guardian the citizens of Gotham need" .

Nightwing with help from Oracle (who hacks into Arkham's security system) breaks in to help Bruce escape and stop both Strange and Black Mask while also stopping an attempted breakout by several inmates.

After Strange has been captured by Batman,Dick is seen as Batman alongside Bruce Wayne,discrediting Strange's accusations that Bruce Wayne is Batman while driving him further insane.

Black Mask is sent to the Arkham Asylum by request of Jerimiah Arkham.
 
I would take Batman movies into a more comic booky direction. Make his character be able and allowed to interact with more unrealistic characters like Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze, and such. This Batman would be able to have a Robin sidekick, Batgirl would be able to eventually show up, and characters can become who they are in more comic book ways like Mr. Freeze becoming who he is through a cryogenic accident or Clayface by way of the accident from the cartoon. Ras would stay alive for centuries thanks to the pits. Joker becomes the Joker from the acid he falls into. I would, I guess, basically make it a live action version of the Batman Animated series.
In this Batman universe it would be plausible for him to team up with Superman or Wonder Woman, or another superhero.
In this movie Robin can go on to become Nightwing, Batgirl can become Oracle, and there could also be the Huntress or the Question.
I could even see DC using these movies to launch spin offs for the other characters, not right away but eventually.
Eventually this could lead to a Nightwing and the Teen Titans spinoff or a Batgirl spinoff or even a Question or Huntress spinoff.

In Nolan's Batman its done very "realistically." Bruce doesn't have comic book prep time, he doesn't seem to be as much of an expert in most things like in the comics. He refuses to know his limits physically, where in the comics Batman knows all his limits. In my idea Batman would show how he excels in almost everything. He is a detective, a scientist, a fighter, etc.
I could even see this Batman wearing gray spandex over his batman armor to make it seem like he is a superhero. In fact, just like in the comics I think they could play up the idea that people don't know if he is real, a monster, a superhero, or just a man. And most people think he is a superhero because of spandex and costume.
But he would still be a creature of the night and try to keep himself out of the spotlight and away from cameras.

I would sort of keep its down serious, but add in the idea that this is a new universe different from Nolan's because of the more unreal comic stuff that happens in it.
 
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The way I see it, we've already gone the "stylized" route with Burton's Batman, and the "realistic" route with Nolan's. Time for something totally different.

I say a gritty Batman Beyond type of trilogy. Neither totally realistic or stylized.
 
I think it would be a bit creatively dishonest to put Superman in this universe. I mean, if there was a guy who could melt things by looking at them, lift thousands of tons, and fly at relativistic speeds, someone would have mentioned it.
But the next franchise will be connected to a JL movie, so Superman will be a part of it. One way or the other.
 
I agree with the whole TAS route, neither totally realistic, nor totally stylized. The emphasis on the emotional reality, and not necessarily the scientific reality.

I would bring in two concepts. The marginalization of traditional organized crime, with Black Mask taking over basically all the gangs and becoming the new Falcone/Maroni/etc/all at once. And the idea that gene therapy has advanced enough to facilitate dramatic changes.

Of course, the goal would be to use the aspects of the Batman mythos that haven't been tapped yet: The Master Detective, the Fringe Psychology, The Inhuman enemies and the skilled costumed supporting cast.

To that end, the first film would be very much about introducing Robin in a way that is realistic and emotionally sound, that integrates into a mystery, features psychology and an inhuman enemy. Most likely he'll be a key witness in a case, perhaps with Killer Croc as another circus act involve in the murder, and Grayson can implicate Tony Zucco, who has corrupt cops on his side, so now Grayson is only safe with Batman. With a mastermind like Riddler to test Batman's psyche, you have a servicable superhero movie that doesn't evicerate the ideas of reality that Nolan brought in.

So after you do the whole detective thing, you can get further into the sciency-CSI stuff with Mr. Freeze and Man-Bat. Using Freeze as your developed emotional villain, you could even have Bruce and Co knowing Nora personally before the sickness and accident. From there you can do a combo with the Clayfaces (making for a great multi-whodunnit mystery) and, say, Ra's Al Ghul, returned via Lazarus pit. So instead of ending a second trilogy, you establish that it is supposed to go on. You James Bond it.

Whenever your Batman balks, you make a big to do about the 'new Batman' that you've recast. Re do big famous storylines. Batman: The Killing Joke. Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batman: The Long Halloween, Batman: No Man's Land. Just go. Rotate and drop supporting cast like Bond Girls. Some get to come back, like Dick Grayson. Others, not so much. "The New Robin" can be switched out everyone 1-2 movies. Sometimes it can be Catwoman, a Batgirl, Azrael, all part of the fun of seeing the new Batman movie.

That's what I'm thinking now.
 
I think Nolan misses out on some of the 'emotional reality' of Batman when he tries to make it more "realistic".
 
I would say Batman Beyond, but it would end up a CGI/green screen acid trip like Tron Legacy.
 
The way I see it, we've already gone the "stylized" route with Burton's Batman, and the "realistic" route with Nolan's. Time for something totally different.

I say a gritty Batman Beyond type of trilogy. Neither totally realistic or stylized.

Why Batman Beyond?

But the next franchise will be connected to a JL movie, so Superman will be a part of it. One way or the other.

I was talking about putting Superman in the Nolan Batman universe. If the reboot is designed to take place in the same universe as the Justice League film, that's fine.
 
Why Batman Beyond?

The fact that it takes place in the future and Bats has all of these futuristic tools (flying car, invisibility costume, wings, etc) takes it out of the "realistic" category. There would have to be some stylized aspects of course, that's just the nature of that series. Still, I wouldnt want it too stylized, a la Batman Forever or Batman and Robin. I would want street thugs to still have regular old guns and for there to still be a gritty aspect to Gotham. I never did like sci fi where everything is so futuristic that a city can be ultra clean and polished.

One of the problems with reboots is over exposure. James Bond doesnt fight the same bad guys over and over (at least not the modern 007). With reboot after reboot, we keep getting the same villains over and over, albeit with a different take. Still, eventually it gets old. Batman Beyond would be similar be different. A totally new take on Batman.

That and I'm just a fan of that series.
 
I'd do a second trilogy that builds off events of the Dark Knight trilogy. Since we don't know how that trilogy ends, it could be pseudo sequels, like Superman Returns was to Superman and Superman II.

The Film would be titled Batman: The Caped Crusader, which is, as people know, another name used for Batman, but in this case, it would actually refer to Robin, not Batman, and Robin would not be seen in the marketing campaign, I'd want him to be a surprise, like Two-Face was.

The main plot of the first film would be how Batman is adjusting to a world that is changing around him. Supercrime is emerging more and more, and he is wondering if he can continue, he trained to be a soldier, but these people are unpredictable. And in the midst of a gang war between Black Mask and The Penguin, Bruce sees another young boy have the same tragedy befall him as it did to himself. The emotional crux would be that of Dick Grayson and his progression of being a happy teenager to a depressed orphan to the laughing daredevil, Robin. Much like Harvey's progression to Two-Face.

Regarding Robin, I wouldn't just have him become Robin just because it will be fun. He would take it very seriously, and it would focus on why he chooses Robin, much like how Bruce chose a bat, and parallels would be drawn between them throughout the movie. It should highlight that Bruce chose Bats through his fear and anger, his fear of bats is a never-ending reminder that he, indirectly caused his parents death, it drives him, but Robin is a reminder of Richard's parents' unending love, it should inspire him.

He would also be shown to be an adept fighter (when Black Mask extortionists come to Grayson circus and are thrown out) he would also wear a hood in homage to Robin Hood, as ASBAR, B&R and AC have shown people find Robin more mature and easily acceptable with a hood.

Batman would have a costume similar to the DCnU suit. The design of Batman Begins suit but with the materials of the Dark Knight suit.

Please, feel free to trash.
 

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