Hype User Reviews: Star Trek XI

[Warhammer]

Bringing on a younger Khan would be just what the doctor ordered in the next Trek film IMO.

Some may disagree, but some also disagreed with use of Joker in the sequel to BB in TDK.

Using the Joker in TDK turned out pretty damn well fellas.

Trek must move forward, not retread. That is why the Klingons were only mentioned and not seen in the movie even though they were apart of a major plot point (Nero and his crew f***ed with the Klingons and were imprisoned by them sometime in the 25 year time span before somehow gaining back control of the Narada and escaping after destroying a whole Klingon fleet). Also, since Khan technically still existed in an alternate timeline as opposed to Joker being in two separate Batman film franchises, it makes it even more of a retread.

I hope the writers breathe more fresh life into the franchise with either lesser known villains/aliens or brand new ones. The original cast already got rebooted. Now let's move forward from there.

That's just me, but I really hope Khan isn't brought back...not because he is a classic, but because bringing him back is a retread. The revitalized franchise doesn't need a remake.

 

[BatJeff7786]

Honestly, Khan has become the biggest Star Trek villain known by fans. It wouldn't surprise me if they go that direction.

Screw that. They created a whole new universe. I want to see them come up with something new. Let's hope they don't go that direction.

 

[bullets]

They just created an alternate timeline .Probably see alot of the same characters I think or variations.

 

[Nivek]

Screw that. They created a whole new universe. I want to see them come up with something new. Let's hope they don't go that direction.

Give me one good reason they would not reboot Star Treks arguably best known villain?

 

[dude stannis]

Give me one good reason they would not reboot Star Treks arguably best known villain?

Because we've already seen that story. What's the point of showing it all over again? Can't a franchise move forward for once?

 

[Balthus Dire]

I just got back from seeing it, and I have to say I thought it was great. My only problem with it was...

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Spock meeting Future Spock. I thought it was a great way to leave Future Spock on the ice planet with the classic "live long and prosper" line, and his fate is ambiguous. Does he live? Does he die? Who knows! I thought it was very fitting. But then they had to bring him back to meet past Spock for seemingly no reason other than...well, he's meeting himself. So what? IMO it would've been much better to just leave him on the planet and have him do the VO at the end still.

Other than that it was great, and even that one complaint doesn't break the movie for me. I'm not a Trekkie and I'll definitely be seeing this again in theaters.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I just got back from seeing it, and I have to say I thought it was great. My only problem with it was...

Spoiler

Spock meeting Future Spock. I thought it was a great way to leave Future Spock on the ice planet with the classic "live long and prosper" line, and his fate is ambiguous. Does he live? Does he die? Who knows! I thought it was very fitting. But then they had to bring him back to meet past Spock for seemingly no reason other than...well, he's meeting himself. So what? IMO it would've been much better to just leave him on the planet and have him do the VO at the end still.

Other than that it was great, and even that one complaint doesn't break the movie for me. I'm not a Trekkie and I'll definitely be seeing this again in theaters.

This scene has a major purpose:

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This is a passing of the torch scene. From here on, the reigns to the Star Trek world are in the hands of the new crew, as seen by Nimoy handing Quinto the reigns to Spock personally. This made the scene important.

 

[Balthus Dire]

This scene has a major purpose:

Spoiler

This is a passing of the torch scene. From here on, the reigns to the Star Trek world are in the hands of the new crew, as seen by Nimoy handing Quinto the reigns to Spock personally. This made the scene important.

Errr...

Spoiler

maybe it's just me, but I don't feel like a "passing of the torch" scene is necessary to the story. You actually just supported what I was saying when I said it was in the movie for no other reason than just having them meet each other.

 

[Nirvana]

Just got back from seeing for the second time, this time in Imax. It was absolutely beautiful. I absolutely love this movie.

 

[Gracen1]

it was an awesome "popcorn" movie. a lot of michael bay type plot mishaps but still a lot of fun. urban's mccoy was the best thing about the movie. the movie was well casted. except for pegg. he over-acted scotty. nero was too one-dimensional as the villain. if it weren't for bana saving the role, it could've been embarrassing. i can't buy the excuse that revenge is the reason why nero just doesn't go back and fix what happened and make things right....but he wants to make spock pay, even though spock tried to help in the first place. no more ranting....i just hate when hollywood runs out of ideas and uses the old "alternate timeline" plot device to make things all better. I like how my OS characters came to be, every step of the way.

 

[roach]

Because they cant timetravel...it was an accident that Spock and Nero ended up in the past

 

[shawnlavoie]

exactly Roach. Ive seen SO many people complain about the "time travel" element of the film. people stating Nero should just go back in time and fix things... Apparently they didnt watch the fiilm. I've even also read people complain that red matter first destroys planets and then creates a black hole.

People can dislike the movie if they wish, it dosnt bother me. But when you give a reason that isnt what was even presented in the film, it dosnt seem fair to the film.

So for the record. A star exploded and in the resulting blast radius of said star it destroyed Romulus. Spock was on his way and arrrived minutes late and was about to be caught in the explosion of the supernova. The only way to save himself was to use the red matter.

[He planned to use this red matter initially to save romulus by creating a black hole to absord the explosion of the supernova. Spock arriving late (after the explosion) was not able to do this because the planet had just been destroyed.]

After the black hole is created Nero and spock are pulled into the black hole. They are sent into the past.

One can argue "where did Nero go for 25 years?" as it is not explained in the film. The seen was cut explaining that he was captured and in a klingon prison.

But to think the film is stupid because Nero dosnt travel to his own time when he captures spock and has the red matter is just rediculous.

At no point do we learn he can actually do this. The time travel element COULD just be a freak accident. And even if we argue that it could effectively travel you through time everytime you used the red matter, theres no way to know if it will send you into the future. what happens if it takes him further into the past?

This is what angers Nero. Not being able to "fix" anything. Being helpless and alone (aside from his crew) his planet is gone along with his wife. The bastard who PROMISED you that he would save your people, failed to do so.

You're filled with so much pain and loss of losing almost your entire race, you begin to want to focus that rage and blame someone. just like countless other people in real life, they focus that rage usually at the wrong person. This is what happens to Spock. He becomes the target of Nero's pain and rage.

Ive been on the brunt end getting yelled at by my girlfrined because she had a bad day at work. And of course since she is irritated and angry. before you know it shes ignoring me for a few hours. its human nature. (yes, I know Nero isnt human) But this is a common example i think we can all relate to. She wasnt mad at me. She was mad at some jerk at work. I just became the target of her frustration and we got into a fight over it.

Now imagine you lost your planet. Your wife. Everyone you have ever known, cared about. Your whole life. Culture, heritage... everything is gone. Youre mad and like my girlfriend, you're looking for someone to blame. How about that ****er that promised to help you?

To say this is a "weak" reason to hate someone dosnt make sense to me. Unless youve never taken anything out on the wrong person before, which I doubt.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think you need that last shot of Spock saying, "Thusters on full." It needs to be there.

 

[roach]

and since he was a federation ambassador they are getting some of Nero's anger too

 

[TheVileOne]

Its not just anger at Spock.

Nero hates the Federation. His motivation is for Romulus to never be a part of the Federation and to destroy the Federation itself.

The movie's failing is that it doesn't expand on Nero's motivation in his disdain for the Federation and wanting to annihlate it completely so Romulus will not be destroyed because of the Federation.

 

[shawnlavoie]

I think you might have a valid point here TheVileOne. While I am not a huge Star trek only seeing 3 of the 11 movies released. I have not even seen full seasons of any version of any StarTrek so correct me if im wrong...

What I took from the film is that Nero bemomes raciallly motivated against a race. Now keep in mind that in Star Treks time I believe most people have transended racial hate. But if we apply that thinking in terms of groups or organizations, I think it makes sense.

So what im saying is a Federation guy screwed me over and now i hate all federation people, especially Spock. Change "federation" to any other race and I think you can see motivation for his anger. You could argue that it dosnt make any sense. I would agree with you, but only in the sense that if one "federation" guy pissed you off it dosnt justify hating the entire race.
It still dosnt stop it from happenning everyday on a global scale.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

Because we've already seen that story. What's the point of showing it all over again? Can't a franchise move forward for once?

But it won't be the same story. This is a different timeline. anything can happen now.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

i just hate when hollywood runs out of ideas and uses the old "alternate timeline" plot device to make things all better. I like how my OS characters came to be, every step of the way.

Besides back to the future....and Terminator...who else has used this plot?

 

[Mister H.]

It was a good movie. I had expected something "amazing" or to be "blown away" after seeing all of these reviews, and it definitely didn't work that well for me.

But, it was a fun, very well-made popcorn movie.

 

[SoulManX]

First Contact also changed the future or past since Starfleet had Blog technology way in advance

Kinda like what Spock told Scotty he invented

 

[Hamill-Joker]

First Contact also changed the future or past since Starfleet had Blog technology way in advance

Kinda like what Spock told Scotty he invented

That Scotty thing was totally a nod to The Voyage Home, where Scotty invents transparent aluminum in the past.

 

[co2]

It was a good movie. I had expected something "amazing" or to be "blown away" after seeing all of these reviews, and it definitely didn't work that well for me.

But, it was a fun, very well-made popcorn movie.

That't the way I felt. I really enjoyed it but I think I let the reviews and word of mouth convince me I was going to see something epic, and it wasn't that. That may be my fault.
It was a more commercially friendly Star Trek, a little less cerebral than Star Trek of the past, but definitely a good popcorn action movie. I would say it is among the only three Star Trek movies I really like, behind Wrath of Khan and First Contact. To be in a top three in a franchise that has had 11 moves, that's pretty good!

 

[scifiwolf]

Well, I finally saw this last night in IMAX, and loved it. I don't think there could have been a better way to go about accomplishing the goals this movie set out to accomplish. I am not going to say everything everybody has already said so well in their reviews. Acting, effects, action, story, dialog, character arcs, references, fun, humor, drama, science, pacing - it was all there in perfect balance. I'm going to have to give it about a 9.75/10.

 

[roach]

it was an awesome "popcorn" movie. a lot of michael bay type plot mishaps but still a lot of fun. urban's mccoy was the best thing about the movie. the movie was well casted. except for pegg. he over-acted scotty. nero was too one-dimensional as the villain. if it weren't for bana saving the role, it could've been embarrassing. i can't buy the excuse that revenge is the reason why nero just doesn't go back and fix what happened and make things right....but he wants to make spock pay, even though spock tried to help in the first place. no more ranting....i just hate when hollywood runs out of ideas and uses the old "alternate timeline" plot device to make things all better. I like how my OS characters came to be, every step of the way.

well to be fair Paramount had run Star Trek into the ground. I think as a trekker I like the alternate reality more than if JJ just came in and said this is how everything goes. Its more respectful of the source material

 

[Captain Kirk]

t:WOW!! I absolutely loved this movie. It was better than I ever hoped it would be, and set up the film series in a fresh new direction. From the opening scene with the U.S.S. Kelvin battle I was stunned by the new look of Trek. Very reminicent of Star Wars with it's usable future, and all looked very real! Chris Pine played an excellent Jim Kirk, and definitely brought the essence of who Kirk is to the screen. Karl Urban as "Bones" was excellent, as was Quinto's Spock!


Another thing which stood out for me greatly was Michael Giachino's score. It was excellent, and for me it was the best Trek film score since James Horner's work in The Wrath of Khan! The new Enterprise looked great, and reminded me very much of the ship in Star Trek I-VI. Excellent movie! 10/10