I feel like DC still doesn't know what they're doing

[Vader's Fist]

My advice would be to wrap up this universe with Justice League Part 2. Reboot and start over in another decade. The Marvel Cinematic Universe looks to be going smaller scale and less event-driven Post Avengers 4 anyway, so there'll probably be a bit less pressure to compete by then.

 

[ludovica]

^ I was going to ask about it, not sure if the case to open a new thread.

What would you guys do were you in charge? I do not mean complex plans, more like to (soft?) reboot or not to reboot? Most of all, bet on a new slate or take it one movie at a time?

I'd go with a time travel story with Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (Kord) hard rebooting the whole universe into a matter of fact version of DC's Earth before New52.
You would not need cameos or videos on monitor, just have the two acknowledge they operate on New Earth (I'd call it Earth One) and that godly superheroes exist.
Only easter eggs that the not comic book reading general public does care about.
Go from there one movie per year, no overarching story whatsoever.

Someone in the forum said every DC movie should be an epic, to truthfully translate DC characters, I mostly agree.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I would just drop the idea of a DCEU and let each movie stand on its own. Then you don't get the problem some people have of Eisa Gonzales as Catwoman in Gotham City Sirens is too young for Ben Affleck's Batman.
Wonder Woman was for all practical purposes a stand alone movie and that worked just fine. Cut the scene with Wayne Enterprises and it is still the same movie.

 

[Vader's Fist]

One thing I'd do if I was in charge, is to just let go of the Nolan style of gritty, grounded and realistic. It had it's time. Outside of Batman, it doesn't fit the rest of the DC universe whatsoever.

 

[mace1]

I don't agree with this.
All of dc characters are not overpowered.
Some are and some are not.
Just like marvel.

by Caligula



Now i would say dc overall has more overpowered superheroes while marvel has more overpowered gods and cosmic types.
There are many marvel characters that are overpowered and alot that are not.

I made a error.
Someone in a youtube comment section said marvel has more overpowered superheroes then dc.
One of the reasons is because they have more Multiverses.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse/Universe_Listing

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse
There are other reasons too but i am not going into details about that.

 

[Jochimus]

What would you guys do were you in charge?

Outside of handing Jenkins the ball on future WW movies, I'd greenlight a proper MOS2 (an adaptation of Action #775) and fast-track MOS3 (a Brainiac story) so fast the air would crackle.

 

[LaughterLives]

Fire everyone that thinks of Nolan or Donner for inspiration. Fire everyone that thinks Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns is a good Batman story.

Hire a couple of Writers from Pixar to write superhero movies, hire other writers who excel at specific genres like horror, Mystery, Crime, Drama, etc.
Find a Middle ground for each script and then hire directors accordingly.

Keep every hero as is, except for Affleck.

Hire The Duffer Bros. for MOS 2.

Keep Jenkins as a producer only.

Give Batman to Snyder if Tim Burton doesn't want back in.

Make Money

 

[Mandon Knight]

NOT massacring your director's tent pole feature film with your primary character line up in the edit whilst his back is turned dealing with a family tragedy, thus stabbing him in the back and changing music scorists halfway through production would be a start.

 

[Flint Marko]

That's.... certainly one way to look at it.

 

[Awest66]

Give Batman to Snyder if Tim Burton doesn't want back in.

Hell No.

Keep both of them as far away from the Batman franchise as possible

 

[ludovica]

Outside of handing Jenkins the ball on future WW movies, I'd greenlight a proper MOS2 (an adaptation of Action #775) and fast-track MOS3 (a Brainiac story) so fast the air would crackle.

I'd love this.

 

[ludovica]

NOT massacring your director's tent pole feature film with your primary character line up in the edit whilst his back is turned dealing with a family tragedy, thus stabbing him in the back and changing music scorists halfway through production would be a start.

We will never know for certain if it was for the best or the worst...
I suspect the best. We will partially see in a few weeks.

 

[hellblazer103]

Fire everyone that thinks of Nolan or Donner for inspiration. Fire everyone that thinks Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns is a good Batman story.


Give Batman to Snyder if Tim Burton doesn't want back in.

Uuuuuuuuh


You realize that


1.) Snyder is both of those things you first mentioned

2. ) Those ideas are pretty terrible

3. ) The idea of Burton coming back is toooootally random


Right ?

 

[The Joker]

Give Batman to Snyder if Tim Burton doesn't want back in.

Neither of them should be doing Batman. Burton is never going to do Batman again.

 

[LaughterLives]

Uuuuuuuuh


You realize that


1.) Snyder is both of those things you first mentioned

2. ) Those ideas are pretty terrible

3. ) The idea of Burton coming back is toooootally random


Right ?

I realize Snyder was influenced by Nolan but i think he can be easily convinced to drop that and that Affleck was a horrible idea from the beginning. Get him a great Costume designer who knows how to Batman not look like a cat and we got no problems. I just want Snyder for his visual instincts and nothing more.

You lack imagination doh so of course they seem that way to you.

Most ideas are random...Whats your point?....Or was it just to tell me that it was random?

 

[LaughterLives]

Neither of them should be doing Batman. Burton is never going to do Batman again.

Nolan should've never done Batman.

 

[Awest66]

Nolan should've never done Batman.

Well thank Heaven he did. Else we wouldn't have gotten the greatest superhero movie of all time (The Dark Knight)

 

[SilverBatarangs]

The last thing I want them to do is a reboot. I hate that.
They have a lot of great material to work with and they could easily move forward.
After JL, they should focus on the solo heroes; tell their stories within the DCEU.
They should all be able to stand as standalone films, but still be connected.

By 2023, JL2 should be releasing featuring Darkseid as the main villain.
After that, if they decided to do an Injustice and Flashpoint story-line
as it relates to having a soft reboot, then I'll be all for that. It all needs to be DCEU.

Not to say it's a competition, but if they do a hard reset, they'll never match Marvel.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The Dark Knight trilogy isn't perfect by any means and a lot of it's issues are ignored by a lot of fans because it wasn't Shumacher bad, but it was still solid. Wonder Woman has received a similar reception. The problem with the Dark Knight trilogy is it's influence. It's directly responsible for the reboot craze that the industry is still struggling with. Zack Snyder's fundamental misunderstanding of not only the source material, but why that trilogy of films was successful in the first place is why the DCEU is in the shape it's in now.

 

[Yowza]

OP has got a point. Whether know or not know what doing the direction to utilizing DC film properties seems meandering at best. Problems everywhere.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I just hope Snyder is done after JL. I still want the movie to be good and if it is, I’ll give him credit for it. But whatever it turns out to be, it won’t retroactively make BvS a good movie or MoS not polarizing (and I like MoS). They need some fresh talent. Snyder has a ceiling and he hit it long ago. Look how refreshing Wonder Woman was.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I don't know how much of an issue is this will be moving forward because I'm just one person, but I have a few of these characters tattooed on my body, I used to have a monthly pull list at my local comic shop that totalled up to around $150, my MoviePass has already paid for itself for the month so seeing Justice League will essentially be free... And I still don't know if I'm going to see it and I cannot be the only person who feels this way. If they can't sell this thing to a guy like me, what the **** are they doing?

 

[Babillygunn]

I realize Snyder was influenced by Nolan but i think he can be easily convinced to drop that and that Affleck was a horrible idea from the beginning. Get him a great Costume designer who knows how to Batman not look like a cat and we got no problems. I just want Snyder for his visual instincts and nothing more.

You lack imagination doh so of course they seem that way to you.

Most ideas are random...Whats your point?....Or was it just to tell me that it was random?

Ok. First off, TDK Trilogy was fantastic. I will agree that the tone shouldn't be used for all other superhero movies but Nolan is a master storyteller and to have had him do a superhero trilogy is quite a treat. Second, I thought people were over the Affleck bashing kick. Name the guy Mickey Coffee and everyone would've loved his take. Third, what do you have against Patty Jenkins??? She deserves to stay on as director. Fourth Snyder and Burton are two people who TOTALLY DONT GET THE BATMAN CHARACTER. Finally, I agree with you that The Dark Knight Returns is overrated and shouldn't be used as an influence on cinematic Batman.

 

[MbJ]

I don't think there's any world where Snyder comes back after this. If the Wallstreet Journal piece on the movie is to be believed, the entire reason Whedon was brought in (even before Snyder's exist) was that the studio thought while the early cut of Justice League was a step in the right direction, it still wasn't what they wanted.

It's in poor taste to talk about the family's tragedy, but I would not be surprised if years later, we find out Snyder was removed from the project even before that.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

One thing I'd do if I was in charge, is to just let go of the Nolan style of gritty, grounded and realistic. It had it's time. Outside of Batman, it doesn't fit the rest of the DC universe whatsoever.

I think the best way would have been to copy the Marvel method. Do a bunch of solos of main characters that build to a JL. After seeing what we got with BVS I'd have preferred a MOS 2 and Batman solo in 2016.

The MCU phase method has been done before as, but doesn't mean it's bad.