Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Iain de Caestecker is Leo Fitz

[ThePowerCosmic]

I could honestly see Fitz turning into a villain eventually.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

maybe he'll dress like a lion and join Zodiac

 

[Heretic]

If Simmons and Triplett end up as a couple, then I think our sweet, innocent Fitz is going to take a turn.

 

[queenkale]

it's not the one thing that happened... it's everything that happened. Fitz is the one that hide under the table when Garrett first came out as the Big bad and had the fight with May and Phil. He's the one that couldn't except that Ward was actually bad. He's the one that was damn near in tears when he couldn't talk ward out of dropping them into the water. His whole life and everything he believed and trusted in have been crushed. and on top of that.... he almost died and may never be the same.

He hid under the table and then shot two guys, bravery in the face of being terrified.
He couldn't except that Ward was bad, he was willing to believe that Ward COULD STILL BE good.
He was in tears because he was about to be sent hurtling towards the Earth, he was scared for his and Simmons' lives.
Everything he knows has been crushed, yet he is still willing to follow Coulson and believe that they can do good.
He almost died, he was willing to put his life on the line to save Simmons.

A villian origin story this does not make, a great flippin' character it does.

 

[marcvader]

So lets happily make Fitz a villain and redeem Ward. The Irony

 

[SonOfIvaldi]

He hid under the table and then shot two guys, bravery in the face of being terrified.
He couldn't except that Ward was bad, he was willing to believe that Ward COULD STILL BE good.
He was in tears because he was about to be sent hurtling towards the Earth, he was scared for his and Simmons' lives.
Everything he knows has been crushed, yet he is still willing to follow Coulson and believe that they can do good.
He almost died, he was willing to put his life on the line to save Simmons.

A villian origin story this does not make, a great flippin' character it does.

This

 

[Alex_Kidd]

He hid under the table and then shot two guys, bravery in the face of being terrified.
He couldn't except that Ward was bad, he was willing to believe that Ward COULD STILL BE good.
He was in tears because he was about to be sent hurtling towards the Earth, he was scared for his and Simmons' lives.
Everything he knows has been crushed, yet he is still willing to follow Coulson and believe that they can do good.
He almost died, he was willing to put his life on the line to save Simmons.

A villian origin story this does not make, a great flippin' character it does.

this could hurt me more then a punch in the dick.

 

[Donk]

I really hope they take this opportunity to write him off the show and bring in more ass kicking agents.

 

[starkresilient]

not everyone has to be kick ass agents tho. teams require different agents with different knowledge.

I will be very dissapoint if fitz leave the show

 

[metaphysician]

I really hope they take this opportunity to write him off the show and bring in more ass kicking agents.

How about they fix him up with a heaping dose of steroids, which turns him into a giant roid rage case, and stick a label on his forehead that says "My name is Clay Quartermain". Satisfied?

 

[SonOfIvaldi]

I really hope they take this opportunity to write him off the show and bring in more ass kicking agents.

Actually I want him on the show and I want him to fully recover or use tools/augmentation to be better than before.

There are many types of hero, and the show will benefit from showing more than one type.

Part of Fitz's hero's journey is that we actually see the repercussions of the sacrifice, but we also see the strength, resolve and will to be whole again.

In terms of character AoS needs someone who's scared stiff, terrified, moved to tears from fear - But won't let his colleagues down and does the right thing.
A hero who's powers are his love for his colleagues and his ingenuity. AoS's MacGuyver!

There will be enough kick ass agents (not that you need them with May), Deathlok, Skye's powers and visiting Asgardians

 

[Heretic]

not everyone has to be kick ass agents tho. teams require different agents with different knowledge.

I will be very dissapoint if fitz leave the show

But even agents who aren't the top tier butt kickers like Romanov or May still have to take some sort of training, right? When Fitz reluctantly fired that gun after hiding during a fight, he shot it like he'd never touched a gun before. He's a SHIELD agent...and he works in the field on a regular basis...the guy should be more competent to handle that sort of situation.

 

[Donk]

sorry i just think his character has been more annoying rather than compelling,that and if they get rid of him we can knock all this love triangle crap out.

 

[The Shrike]

maybe he'll dress like a lion and join Zodiac

He has a mighty roar.

 

[Mask&Cape]

But even agents who aren't the top tier butt kickers like Romanov or May still have to take some sort of training, right? When Fitz reluctantly fired that gun after hiding during a fight, he shot it like he'd never touched a gun before. He's a SHIELD agent...and he works in the field on a regular basis...the guy should be more competent to handle that sort of situation.

Fitz and Simmons are agents but not all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents are spies and kung fu experts.

They are scientists.

That is what guys like Ward and Trip are for.

And the point was made in the first episode that they were not suitable for combat situations.

 

[Matarreyes]

I would like him written off; could never understand the appeal of him or Simmons as they are written. People who cannot handle combat situations should not be put into them. The end. Let them grow a backbone or make them stay at home. And showing down our throats that just because he is a scientist he cannot learn 3 autodefensive moves and is uttely terrified to fire a weapon is to perpetuate a rather silly, harmful stereotype. Most good scientists are actually strong, outspoken people. Not May level badass, but certainly capable to handle themselves.

Except if Fitz dies, Ward would have had his moral horizon event and would become de facto unredeemable. So I am willing to put up with Fitz in order to keep Ward. All in all, I see him becoming the Bran Stark of AOS, a somewhat crippled character who is still pretty important, and who is always there to remind us of what Ward/Jaime has done (because by season 4 we will have forgotten all about it).

 

[Heretic]

Fitz and Simmons are agents but not all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents are spies and kung fu experts.

They are scientists.

That is what guys like Ward and Trip are for.

And the point was made in the first episode that they were not suitable for combat situations.

But...like...dont real life field medic and stuff in the military have to take basic training, learn to shoot etc? Fitz seemed like he had never held a gun and was afraid to touch it...yet had completed all the training necessary to be out in the field as a scientist. I know it's fantasy...but it strains credibility that an agency like SHIELD wouldn't train EVERYONE who could potentially see action on how to use a gun.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

But...like...dont real life field medic and stuff in the military have to take basic training, learn to shoot etc? Fitz seemed like he had never held a gun and was afraid to touch it...yet had completed all the training necessary to be out in the field as a scientist. I know it's fantasy...but it strains credibility that an agency like SHIELD wouldn't train EVERYONE who could potentially see action on how to use a gun.

An agency like SHIELD was too stupid to realise they were being infiltrated by an evil organization for 7 decades.

 

[chronos]

They did mention in the Pilot that Fitz and Simmons were not field ready. That was one of Ward's complaints about the team. Before the first episode, they worked only in a lab environment.

 

[Mask&Cape]

What is the point of creating a series where every character is the same.

Dull.

Pointless.

Boring.

And the fact is that FitzSimmons have more guts than Ward.

They are more likely to be killed on these missions and despite their fear they carry on.

And they've probably saved the day more times than Ward too.

 

[Heretic]

All them being able to defend themselves properly makes them the same?????

 

[iambranded]

I could honestly see Fitz turning into a villain eventually.

There is no logic that justifies this opinion.....
nothing Fitz has done would make him become a villian

 

[Mask&Cape]

All them being able to defend themselves properly makes them the same?????

Yes. Of course it does.

Because if they are ALL able to defend themselves properly, then they are ALL the same.

Having them depend on each other for different things makes them a team. Makes it interesting.

If all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents are supposed to be trained to "defend themselves properly" then Batroc the Leaper and his men would never have been able to capture the Lemurian Star nor would HYRDA have been able to take the Triskelion in The Winter Soldier, and Cap would not have to come to the rescue.

Where is the fun in that?

Variety is the spice of life.

 

[Heretic]

Yes. Of course it does.

Because if they are ALL able to defend themselves properly, then they are ALL the same.

Having them depend on each other for different things makes them a team. Makes it interesting.

If all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents are supposed to be trained to "defend themselves properly" then Batroc the Leaper and his men would never have been able to capture the Lemurian Star nor would HYRDA have been able to take the Triskelion in The Winter Soldier, and Cap would not have to come to the rescue.

Where is the fun in that?

Variety is the spice of life.

You paint with such a broad brush. "They can defend themselves" describes SO MANY characters...from Rocky Balboa to Godzilla. Yet you think that this one quality makes everyone who has it so similar that you can't tell them apart?

My assumption here (since I have no first hand knowledge) is that everyone goes through basic training, then they branch off into their own areas of interest. It's all about aptitude and desire. A Navy Seal would get more field training and be a better fighter than a Navy mechanic, but both would have gone through basic training. In a fight, there shouldn't be much confusion about who would win.

Basically what you're saying is that there is no difference between the Navy Seal who stormed Bin Laden's compound, and the guy who was the mechanic of the helicopter back at the base, because they both went through basic training. You're suggesting that the guy piloting a drone could pick up a long range weapon and be just as good as our military's best sniper.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Define "trained to defend themselves properly."

Because there's a hell of a lot of difference in going through rudimentary firearms training, and actually being involved in a firefight. Even rookies in the armed forces don't perform like deadly uber badasses straight away.

FitzSimmons are scientists, no doubt they took the courses but sitting on your ass in a lab afterwards doesn't exactly turn you into a hardened vet. That comes with actual combat experience, of which neither of them had (and still barely have)

The setup is quite plausible.